This feels like leftwing poker where everyone wins and gets a trophy.....please adjust the new pay structure, it's paying too many

The 6k should not be paying 27 spots....not even 1500 for first

it fits the pattern of other variance increasing and roi decreasing changes made to the stts. Seems to be the business model. I could care less who decided any of the changes recently were a good idea, I'm more wondering why and how much worse things will get.

A few months ago they improved the mtt blind structures, added levels because they were way too fast (variance went down). The recent changes to mtt payouts (so winning players win less), to stt blind structure and payouts and hypers added are not even remotely "profitable poker player friendly", its definitely "degenerate gambler friendly".

Im so sick to my stomach from variance after only 2 hrs on top of everything else i mentioned above i cant bring myself to play anymore today, my head is spinning. I think I've maybe won 1 day since the stt changes and adds. I think I'm going to cash out and give up for good it's making me a very miserable person.

Min cash in the 6k wouldn't even cover the total bi's possible for one player....this is sad. Def not gonna clear any gtds doing payouts like this. I don't see much point in playing a coin flip turbo that cost 120 to Min cash for 69.that is super neato

prob gonna take my money off, no point in playing with such horrendous payouts especially considering everything is a turbo with push fold 45mins in, before you even reach the first break

I'm a total nit, so the more places that pay out the better. I cash often, but I've never won a MTT on Global.

And I think all of this points to what Global is trying to do and has been doing all along.

MTT players like Dirty are saying they don't like the pay out structure, and casual players like lagtight are saying they enjoy it more.

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that what Global is trying to accomplish? A social environment for casual players? Isn't this what they have said from the beginning? Why are we surprised when they actually are accomplishing what they said they were aimed at.

I have a day job, and don't see poker as a career, I see it as a fun hobby that I also happen to win a little money at. So to me, more people paid, mo better.

But I can also understand if I was an MTT specialist the changes would bother me, but then Global may not be the place for specialists like that.

It balances out by being able to go deep without too much difficulty. I've never gone for min cash and my ITM here is way above every other site, as is the ridiculous ROI I have.

I have a career too splaya which is why I liked the original payouts, it made it worth the time

What a joke...here I thought this site had a shot at taking over the US market.

I can understand it from your perceptive for sure. There is no doubt in my mind you have a pretty big edge over me in any MTT.

The argument I am making is what works better for building the site Global is trying to build is likely flatter payouts.

And also don't hear me say you shouldn't express your opinions on it, you should and you need to. Global should be aware not everyone likes the changes that get made. I am just pointing out what you want from a poker website and what Global is trying to accomplish with their website may not be the same thing.

I don't know that the pay out structure has very much if any bearing on whether or not global "takes over the US market". Pay out structures are a detail that needs to be thought through for sure, but much more likely to make it succeed or fail is ease of transfers (+1 Global), software working well (-1 Global), and luck.

I like the more liberal MTT payout structure. Consider a payout structure in a 6 or 9 person SNG, 33% get paid.

It appears that GP has the ITM between 15-20%. Does it lessen winners take... sure it does but imo more ITM is a good thing.

They corrected their 23% payout and adjusted accordingly, congrats to gp for listening. Love seeing action taken

Why are you comparing the pay structure for a sng to an mtt? They have zero to do with each other in terms of payouts

The new payout structure is STUPID!!!!

I wasn't comparing... I was pointing out that SNG has a 33% ITM structure so I didn't see it as a big deal with MTT going 15 to 20%. JMO.

I never really pay attention to these things, but I'd prefer a flatter payout structure. More spots to cash in an MTT equals more fish being happy equals more fish playing more games.

A steeper payout structure does benefit the sometimes-spewy, like yours truly, but the overall, like, metagame considerations for the site would indicate that a flatter structure is best.

Edit: depending on the size of the tournament, flattening the payouts might have the effect of shortening bubble play, as well. I and some other players thoroughly enjoy the bubble, but for the average player it's probably a net negative experience (?)

+1

Regardless of whether it's good or bad long term, it seems like a bad idea to flatten the payment structure before implementing hand-for-hand. The more tables in play at the bubble the more stalling issues, and the more stalling issues the more variance based on seating luck, which ought to be the last thing anyone wants.

I can't say that a few more tables will dramatically increase stalling, but I am all for hand for hand play on the bubble.

I don't think hand-for-hand play should be implemented until it's heads-up.

edit: dumb post, but I needed to get to 100 posts.