There are still high stakes regs winning without using a HUD, script or HH grabber. Don't let it get you down. It just means that you probably have to work harder than those who do choose to use those tools that are against the site's rules. FYI MTTs are not immune from banned software providing assistance to those willing to cheat.

keep in mind: the idiots who use seat scripts/break tos in other ways to get an edge tend to be **** at poker (relative to stake) which is why they use a bunch of software to bumhunt. study, move up and crush the bumhunters

i started playing the site at 10nl and came up to 2knl (riP)

To my knowledge theres no seat script or hud out there. The only guy with a hud was probably the guy in here posting his DB, who appears to not even be a hs reg. My point is the online dream is still alive. The only thing killing the online dream is global removing 2knl. Making mid 6 figs a year just became impossible but you absolutely could make 100-200k a yr if you put in the work

Jeremiah,

Would you mind elaborating on your rise through the stakes on Global? That's pretty fascinating how you moved from micros to highest stake on the site in such a short period of time (about 2 years I suppose?).

Bet?

Hmm. Not sure if serious. Either way congrats on the success!

it was more like 1 year, unfortunately missed the best days of global. Theres no secret just play a lot + study. Theres lots of guys who came up the stakes on global to 10/20. I know im not the only one nor did i climb up the fastest.

Am serious about the hud/scripts. For a while I thought there might be scripting, but having known most of the 2knl regs I dont think so. Just people having all the tables up on a 2nd monitor and waiting for someone to sit them. And it seems like global banned the guy itt running a hud. Global also banned the 10+ bots when they were around and gave some refunds. Honestly they've done a good job handling the cheating and most of the 2knl regs all know eachother/of eachother in some capacity, so that lowers the suspicion of cheating

You battled a ton of HU while using a card catcher which you got banned for 30 days?

Not a card catcher. There seems to be a misunderstanding about that on the forums, there was no hud or ability to see opponents stats after in PT4. I just have a graph and know my "winrate" (not even an accurate number since you need such a huge sample). The best part about downloading hands were honestly for tax purposes.

Also ill add that almost all of my opponents were also downloading hands. same for almost every reg on the site msnl+... the only reason global decided to crack down it IMO is the guy in the thread who got a hud. Perma ban the hud user and give everyone else a 30 day warning to dissuade future attempts at a hud

I wasn't using the plugin for a while when I was banned. I found other ways. You can see only your hands if you are using plugin. I believe that GP started to take all this poker thing more seriously and hired couple of people to actually fight security issues. They started to do much better job. Props to them. Hopefully at some point they will rewrite the software as well.

It would be very naive (and sweet for my ego) to think that my HUD was the only one on the site (I don't know anyone else though and I never shared my solution with anyone).

But honestly it was not very hard to implement it. The fact that site is written in JS helped me to create even better HUD than standard PT4 one as I could make it dynamic and change stats based on action (SRP, 3B pots etc)

i had major features like

- Position indicator + RFI ranges based on hole cards
- Vs RFI charts help is showed based on hole cards
- Vs 3B charts help is showed based on hole cards
- Positional stats (sb vs bu 3b etc…)
- Vs Hero stats
- customizable hotkeys (folding, checking, betsizes)
- customizable hud (all PT4 stats)
- pot odds/implied odds
- Custom location of hud elements
- PT4 Auto notes (by street)

It was pretty cool to be able to do something like that. It only proves that if you want to ban something, but have no idea about how to fight it, just don't do it. Not having their own software is one of the biggest problems. I bet they even haven't read the code (which I did).

It's very bad for the users, because some people will have it one way or another. I do believe that some players (especially HS) could've even bought something like that not because they are willing to cheat, but because they are not willing to be in disadvantage against other regs. And it's sad. All this BS about not allowing it because they care for rec players. Common, fish going to lose anyways. With HUD enabled it is just going to lose a little faster (which will bring less rake money to the site). This is all. Rake money. The slower the fish lose better for the site. They couldn't care less for recs. I don't blame them it's business after all. All other sites who claim to care for the recs is the same story. Ignition, new RIO once it is going to be launched. They all want recs to lose slower. So instead of $25 out of $100 going to the site it will be more like $40

Its my opinion that you were the only one, atleast when talking about the 2knl regs. Everyone on your 2knl reg list of results is still playing and if they had huds they wouldave been perma banned. Cant speak for lower stakes maybe there is some mid/small stakes guys doing it, but then the players using it arent that good anyway so w/e.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAvQbEeTafk




In case it's not obvious, the other players sitting out sat out immediately after the purple-tagged player busted. They all stayed sitting out until the purple player left the table, at which point they also left the table. This sort of behavior needs to be discouraged by punishment if you aren't planning to make software changes to fix the problem. So i just want to reiterate that 10/20 isn't the problem, it's the lack of clearly defined rules that are enforced.

This behavior has never been policed. Even on stars with a huge security team, I def recommend calling them out in the chat as soon as it happens though. Its one of the scummiest things you can do around a rec.

Trichoblast is the biggest bumhunter on the site

Agreed.

Once again, 2 repeat offenders from the earlier screenshot.

This is true but Cadillac1944 is certainly in the conversation. They were both a big part of the camping problem too.

Seems like 2knl players on global would rather become 600nl players than play a few hands after fish sit out

Idk if this has to do with the server update but it looks like they just took away 5/10 PLO. Pretty absurd. I'm new to the site but in my limited time I didn't see the kind of behavior that has been talked about that led to 10/20 being taken away.

I wish I could agree with you but you’re very wrong. The PLO regs were bumhunting like it was Salem yesterday. In the two hours that I was seated at all the tables, I was the only one who didn’t sit out when the Recs busted or left. I say punish the offenders don’t remove people like myself from having the ability to play those games. People like BenTob need a lesson taught.

Just noticed this myself... 5/10 PLO now gone as well. Come on Global, what's the deal?!?! 5/10 NL is still there, at least for the moment. This is getting ridiculous, whatever the reason. They are going to end up running everyone away and killing their business. I'm all for security and handling issues and problem players, without a doubt, but... I just don't know what to think at this point.

The same issues that you're trying to avoid will just trickle down to 3/6 PLO...pretty annoying if this is a permanent removal.

A lesson for what exactly? This has happened on every single poker site for over a decade, and is an obvious solution to not playing extra blinds when you know everyone else is going to sit out too, or not playing HU with unbeatable $4 rake if 1 person stays sitting in. I reluctantly continue the game with unbeatable rake even if other regs sit out if the spot hasn't left the table yet. Same can't be said for Listen20, vizzzzo, Trichoblast, etc. BTW never seen any of them open sit to try to start a game.

I think it should be obvious to anyone that these changes are not a result of the reasons stated. For one, they've removed higher stakes PLO when there was literally 0 camping at 10/20 PLO (in large part because I got together with a lot of regs over a year ago and we convinced the offenders to stop). And now they've removed 5/10 PLO but not 5/10 NL...

The solutions to these problems are already in this thread, in long posts by me and others. No one from Global has said anything about the suggestions. Hmmmm

An obvious solution is to ban players that make the games less friendly for non regs eventually. Just cause it’s been happening for 10 years doesn’t mean it’s correct.

A recreational player comes in, sits, loses and before they’ve even exited the table the regs are either sit out or flat gone. It’s a joke and if you don’t see that you you’re blind.

The recreational players play for many different reasons and also think more differently generally. The result of these idiot regs hit and running, sitting out, leaving quickly etc, to them may lead to accusations of cheating etc. Not much to argue about here.

The reasoning global uses for the change doesn’t even matter. The problem needs fixed regardless.

Ok, but why are you singling out someone who doesn't do that when there are several who do?

Also, probably read my long post in this thread if you haven't already. Despite global claiming to be "rec friendly", the entirety of its architecture makes it more predatory than any other site I can think of. This stuff occurring shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. The only way to make the site truly rec friendly is to implement suggested changes.