They don't. You just need to think out of the box.

God this was fun to look at, I wish you'd do one for all of 2018 all stakes included and just do a top 50 for C-won.

can you please release the database? I will pay for it.. you don't have pm privileges yet..
send me an email at databaseplzplz@gmail.com
I look forward to hearing from you

Sorry, i am not going to do it.

Stay classy ermergerd.

Why is everybody all of a sudden jumping on board with cheating? This goes from being a thread about trying to get 10/20 reinstated, to a few users trying to make sure it stays banned?, and now people are opening trying to break TOS? What a band of brothers.

What percentage of those winning players were not already using banned software? I'd say it's a lot more than the few guys actually talking about it in here. People being on board with cheating started long ago. Anybody who didn't know that was going on was/is very naive, as his name says.

That whole group of players table camping and blocking tables were too greedy and this is the consequence. I'm not sure if removing additional stakes is off the table, but I think you guys better do some better self policing from this point forward. Call out the offenders, even in threads, and if they don't stop then you should report them. I'm sure there's some sort of clause in their T&C with which that kind of behavior could be applied to for suspensions.

Player pool at 5/10 nl prob too big to self police and some of the biggest offenders play lower for the most part(two in particular). I don't think there is any rules against camping currently so reporting most likely is an exercise in futility. Software fix might be too much to ask since they rent Cubeia software but at the very least they should make an announcement and an amendment to TOS disallowing it going forward. This is the cheapest and easiest solution for them, it's almost like they dgaf bc its certainly been brought to their attention already.

how do you know thats ermer

I agree that that is the very least they should do.

I know I've seen the issues mentioned in the forum more than once. It's likely that removing it was better on their financials than paying for the additional software features and/or easier for them than doing a better job of actually policing the games properly 24/7.

Impressed you did all this **** while understanding so little about poker or statistics

Just curious how you extrapolated this on my poker and/or statistics knowledge.

They just needed to be vigilant in dropping varying duration ban hammers.

Even if its just questionable, 30 day bans. They say they don't cater to professional play so banning people isn't a problem.

3 people reported un rec friendly behavior? BAN
Some one records you table blocking? BAN

Yes the bans would be likely unfairly enforced and players could even band together to try to get players banned, BUT then they should be banned.

Instead they just removed the stake.

At the end of the day I don't think they cared about the higher stake as I don't think it provides as much rake to deposit ratio as say mid stakes.

The rake is extremely low as a percentage, its just high nominally compared to their lower stakes games

Fresh tables shouldn't keep spawning.

donk4life is such an abuser

What is the problem with him opening tables? If he doesnt open a table, it has no chance of starting.

he needs to open sit 4 tables at one steak? No, it's so that when people dont have it sorted by steak, he's more likely to have a random player sit.

It's not fair to the other people who open sit

Fizz, are you serious? I had no intention of ever contributing to this forum again, but I will defend myself. You are literally the leader of table campers. Sitting in with 500$ at 10-20 when a rec is on saving the seat. You have never started a a game above 5-10 in your life. You are the definition of the problem with the site. As for those tables open, that was literally a 10 min window of games shutting down. GTOH even asked for a single table when i then closed the tables down and left 1 and 1. Fizz, just go away like I have.

One thing that has been accomplished by this is the death of heads up poker on Global. 10/20 was the one stake where regs actually played heads up matches or kept a game going when the rec left. That no longer happens now. The 10/20 heads up rake was obviously terrible but you have to be a total fool to play a reg heads up at 5/10 with this rake.

Troll?

Not that I checked on it every moment of every day, but when I would go look at the 10/20 tables it always seemed like it was just one guy sitting the table or two of them sitting out. I can't think of any reg v reg battles that I saw taking place, and if they were, I would think they would have been mentioned when everyone complained about the predatory practices taking place at that level. Again, maybe I just missed it.

Not a troll at all. While it wasn't running continuously, but there was actually quite a bit of heads up being played at 10/20 among various regs. I'm not sure if its' because this thread got derailed, but i'm equally surprised that it just trailed off without more than a bit of initial outrage. I guess it's because global doesn't really have a great track record of implementing player-suggested changes.

Here are the ideas that i'd implement in some form:

First, only spawn a new table as soon as every available seat is taken in every other game of that stake / type. So if all 6m tables are full except one with 4/6 players sitting, have no empty 6max tables spawn until those 2 seats are occupied. This will prevent players from opening 20 empty tables in the lobby in attempt to land the recreational player.

Second, as crazy as it sounds, don't have a sitout feature for cash games. What often happens is that a recreational player will be playing at a table, and as soon as he loses his money everybody except the 1-2 best players at the table sit out. I would argue that this is more predatory and anti-rec behavior than opening a bunch of empty tables in the lobby. This makes the recreational player notice that he's being targeted, because as soon as he loses his money everybody sits out (but remains at the table) and as soon as he reloads all of those players sit back in. By not having a sitout feature, you force those bumhunters to keep playing at the table without knowing whether the recreational player will return or not. In situations like this, there's no shortage of players waiting to get a seat in the game, so if those bumhunters elect to sit out, they'll immediately be removed and another player will be able to occupy their seat (but not sit out). And in this way, you drastically reduce bumhunters' ability to target the weakest players. The downside is that players will not have the ability to sit out and go to the bathroom or do whatever else. However, this is really only an inconvenience to the reg who wants to remain at "good" tables. In this scenario he simply has to make a trade of prioritizing whatever else it is over remaining in the game. And like i said before, in "good" games there's no shortage of players waiting to sit down so this has no negative impact from global's perspective whatsoever. In games that are shorthanded or aren't "good", players will most likely be able to sit out (and therefore get removed), and then get their seat back when they come back to the PC.

Man, no wonder poker looks so bad in the eyes of many. These forum shows human beings in really bad form.

+1

If your local Walmart and Sam's Club runs out of Depends we'll know that you got your wish.

I was starting to think you were a global shill for a long time as you don't seem to be very involved in playing poker yet write these long heart felt paragraphs trying to make global seem OK even when it's not. It's becoming clear nowadays that is certainly the case I just never spoke on it because for the most part I agree with you and you seem like a reasonable guy, but someone being planted here to speak on globals behalf just seems a bit overkill. Either way, yes, 10/20 is where most heads up battling was done. You would know this if you played.

This thread pretty much exemplifies the global poker experience.

You've gotten so many emails about the problems going on, just like you did with the bot ring. As somebody that doesn't really stick super close to community rumblings, the stuff ITT is insane to me. How no rep will even respond to somebody that they apparently banned having THAT amount of data available is mind blowing. Maybe I am in the minority of people that actually have zero assistance tools (let alone in-game ones, ffs) and a huge naive fish, but even that small of a db seems crazy valuable to anybody playing as you can see by scumbag #17 flat out trying to purchase it a few posts back. Just leaves an awful taste in my mouth, idk.

Don't get me wrong, I am super grateful for existing in a space that is really finicky, but you only even got rid of the BIG bot farm because a group of smart regulars, the same ones you are punishing with this, collaborated behind the scenes and did a lot of work that you were apparently incapable of. I was on the outside looking in on that situation and it's always been my understanding that this is something nobody talks about like it never happened, but seriously what the hell? Instead, it's like you see this as just another "punish regs" sort of stance instead of the "punish scumbags" which should be our communal goal... right?!

This whole thing is just super disappointing in an already really disappointing climate. You may want to learn to consult with your biggest rake contributors instead of ostracizing them next time, but that's just life in 2019 I guess. I really hope that I am wrong and traffic will remain somewhat steady and that the idiots that caused this in the first place will just fall down the line and do the same but kill even more games from staying open.

Highly doubtful much will get better. I have created a support ticket with a customer feedback form to try to explain some things they could do better and I was literally only trying to help. The response I got? They said if I write them and complain again that they will ban me. And it was written super sloppy as if someone had been up all night and did not have coffee. I was shocked to say the least. It was a customer feedback form. Dont call it that if you dont want the feedback.