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used to be able to view hand betting history in chat window used to be able to view hand betting history in chat window

11-30-2017 , 06:18 PM
Settings must've reset once they rolled out the Christmas theme tables, how do I go back to being able to view the current hand's betting history in the chat window? Thanks.
11-30-2017 , 06:47 PM
+1. This is really important Global!
11-30-2017 , 08:29 PM
It appears they removed this feature. It was brought up by someone else it may be to prevent HUDS from collecting data, just a theory.
11-30-2017 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MotownGreek
It appears they removed this feature. It was brought up by someone else it may be to prevent HUDS from collecting data, just a theory.
Seems like a solid theory to me

All joking aside, I would agree I want this feature back. Or at least hear from a Global rep there is some very good reason (like site security) they removed it. It could be part of the Christmas changes to the site, but that seems sort of unlikely. I think this change just happened at the same time as the Christmas changes. (Although I would be all for it just being a bug and they can fix it real quick like.)
11-30-2017 , 10:01 PM
please bring this back this is a disaster
11-30-2017 , 10:08 PM
We need an explanation on this. It's logical that they would want to substantiate their stance against HUDs by removing the text logs from the dealer chat, but without a way to review previous hands quickly and easily it makes playing more than one MTT/SNG a nightmare. Even playing one game is difficult if life happens and you miss a couple of actions. I've never felt the need to voice my opinion over any previous "maintenance", but this "maintenance" is very frustrating and seems to only punish the players who try to follow the GP ToS.

Consider this "maintenance" change from a programmatic POV... Any right-minded engineer who previously developed a way to scrape the GP text logs, compile the data sets, and implement these into a PokerTracker type client, isn't simply going to just throw in the towel and call it a day over this obstacle. Software engineers NEVER write code that works perfectly the first time, and constantly encounter anomalies, even as late as implementation, that may the need to restart the project from the baseline.

My point is that anyone who has the ability and motivation to build a db of this nature from scratch (or very close to scratch), is probably quite innovative and will find different avenues to meet the Need.
11-30-2017 , 10:34 PM
Could be a glitch but I am curious as well about why this happened.
12-01-2017 , 02:19 AM
I am ****ing tilted at this, literally just created an acc to post about this. This is a deliberate attack at players who multi table, I am no longer able to even see who the ****ing pre flop raiser is etc, this is as valuable a tool as we can have without HUDs GLOBAL YOU'RE A JOKE, FRAUDS
12-01-2017 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern
We need an explanation on this. It's logical that they would want to substantiate their stance against HUDs by removing the text logs from the dealer chat, but without a way to review previous hands quickly and easily it makes playing more than one MTT/SNG a nightmare. Even playing one game is difficult if life happens and you miss a couple of actions. I've never felt the need to voice my opinion over any previous "maintenance", but this "maintenance" is very frustrating and seems to only punish the players who try to follow the GP ToS.

Consider this "maintenance" change from a programmatic POV... Any right-minded engineer who previously developed a way to scrape the GP text logs, compile the data sets, and implement these into a PokerTracker type client, isn't simply going to just throw in the towel and call it a day over this obstacle. Software engineers NEVER write code that works perfectly the first time, and constantly encounter anomalies, even as late as implementation, that may the need to restart the project from the baseline.

My point is that anyone who has the ability and motivation to build a db of this nature from scratch (or very close to scratch), is probably quite innovative and will find different avenues to meet the Need.
I think we should hear from Global first to find out why it was removed, and then if the come back with security as the reason, we can then further debate is that even a wise choice. I am in your camp that people who rip site data aren't now just going to give up, but we still don't yet know its not a bug.
12-01-2017 , 08:54 AM
lol this is pretty bad
12-01-2017 , 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by McNegroid
I am ****ing tilted at this, literally just created an acc to post about this. This is a deliberate attack at players who multi table, I am no longer able to even see who the ****ing pre flop raiser is etc, this is as valuable a tool as we can have without HUDs GLOBAL YOU'RE A JOKE, FRAUDS
I can understand your frustration, I don't even multi table that much, and I still find it useful. With that said, I can't go as far as you have here believing this is an attempt to dismantle multi tablers. If that was there goal, I think they would just disallow multi tabling.

I can understand your frustration, and I share some of it as well, but let's see what the response from Global is before we jump off the high rope assuming it must be they are making a deliberate attack. To assume malice is an assumption to far in my opinion for this particular situation.

One other point, likely we won't hear from Global about this for a couple of days. They are based in Australia, and it is now there weekend.
12-01-2017 , 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by McNegroid
I am ****ing tilted at this, literally just created an acc to post about this. This is a deliberate attack at players who multi table, I am no longer able to even see who the ****ing pre flop raiser is etc, this is as valuable a tool as we can have without HUDs GLOBAL YOU'RE A JOKE, FRAUDS
In order for something to be fraudulent, there has to be some sort of misrepresentation going on. What exactly is Global misrepresenting? While it can be extremely valuable (as you and others have duly noted) to have access to the play of the hand, it certainly isn't a REQUIREMENT for Global to provide that information.

AFAIK, all poker sites provide that info. Not a good thing IMO if they have removed that information.
12-01-2017 , 11:54 AM
This also screwed up SharkScope SNG / MTT tracking. I know several people who use SS to motivate themselves to keep playing. This is going to screw up Global's rake BAD.
12-01-2017 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ermergerdp0ker
please bring this back this is a disaster
How is it a disaster? You're a big multitabler so it's not like you have any time to go back and look at the previous hands in chat anyway.

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Originally Posted by McNegroid
I am ****ing tilted at this, literally just created an acc to post about this. This is a deliberate attack at players who multi table, I am no longer able to even see who the ****ing pre flop raiser is etc, this is as valuable a tool as we can have without HUDs GLOBAL YOU'RE A JOKE, FRAUDS
How is it an attack on multitablers? If you play only a few tables you'll be able to see who the preflop raiser was in real time. If you're playing a ton of tables you don't have time to look and see previous action in the hand anyway.

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Originally Posted by Tuma
lol this is pretty bad
Why?

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Originally Posted by bldeeney
This also screwed up SharkScope SNG / MTT tracking. I know several people who use SS to motivate themselves to keep playing. This is going to screw up Global's rake BAD.
I think this is why they did it. They don't want HUDs and I believe Sharkscope was able to track games and produce a HUDs. This isn't going to have any effect on rake at all. You're just sad that you can't use sharkscope.
12-01-2017 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Warder
How is it a disaster? You're a big multitabler so it's not like you have any time to go back and look at the previous hands in chat anyway.



How is it an attack on multitablers? If you play only a few tables you'll be able to see who the preflop raiser was in real time. If you're playing a ton of tables you don't have time to look and see previous action in the hand anyway.



Why?



I think this is why they did it. They don't want HUDs and I believe Sharkscope was able to track games and produce a HUDs. This isn't going to have any effect on rake at all. You're just sad that you can't use sharkscope.
"How is it a disaster?" "How is it an attack on multitablers?" "How does two plus two equal four?" "How is rain wet?" I have a legitimate question for you though, "Are you being paid by Global?"
Anyways, I agree with the previous poster, I think they are targeting multi-tablers and, more generally, pros. This is consistent with them replacing so many SNGs with Turbos, making it harder to move up stakes organically. They just want to make life hard on regs while catering to recreational players, even if it means less rake in the short-term. Maybe they think that too many regs with too big of an edge will dry up the games long-term.
And they clearly are frauds because Online Poker is not Great Again, in fact, it's much worse!
12-01-2017 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by splayaa
I can understand your frustration, I don't even multi table that much, and I still find it useful. With that said, I can't go as far as you have here believing this is an attempt to dismantle multi tablers. If that was there goal, I think they would just disallow multi tabling.

I can understand your frustration, and I share some of it as well, but let's see what the response from Global is before we jump off the high rope assuming it must be they are making a deliberate attack. To assume malice is an assumption to far in my opinion for this particular situation.

One other point, likely we won't hear from Global about this for a couple of days. They are based in Australia, and it is now there weekend.
Joey has posted on their weekend.
12-01-2017 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by highjumper86
Joey has posted on their weekend.
Hopefully he posts on their weekend about this as well. An email to all players would be better in my opinion, as I have a hunch 2+2 represents a pretty small group of actual players on Global.

I agree they have posted on their weekend, I am only saying it isn't likely because it hasn't been so far. I would love to see this change, and as Global grows, I would expect it will have to change.

Edit: And I just caught the subtle correction of my very poor grammar. Lol to that, yeah grammar not a strong suit for me. If the spell check says it is good to go, I kind of go with it.
12-01-2017 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by splayaa
Hopefully he posts on their weekend about this as well. An email to all players would be better in my opinion, as I have a hunch 2+2 represents a pretty small group of actual players on Global.

I agree they have posted on their weekend, I am only saying it isn't likely because it hasn't been so far. I would love to see this change, and as Global grows, I would expect it will have to change.

Edit: And I just caught the subtle correction of my very poor grammar. Lol to that, yeah grammar not a strong suit for me. If the spell check says it is good to go, I kind of go with it.
I don't understand this sentence. You agree, then disagree?

Also, they must be on a long weekend because the last post from a rep was 11/20/17.
12-01-2017 , 07:39 PM
Why would they disable multitabling? More tables, more people, more rake.
12-01-2017 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by highjumper86
I don't understand this sentence. You agree, then disagree?

Also, they must be on a long weekend because the last post from a rep was 11/20/17.
Does AKo beat AA? It can, but it isn't likely. I use the same word here.

Will they post on their weekend about this topic? They could, but it isn't likely. Which is what I said from the beginning, it isn't likely. Hopefully that clears things up.
12-01-2017 , 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by niosocket
Why would they disable multitabling? More tables, more people, more rake.
Not sure I follow the logic, or the statement. Do you mean this as a theoretical statement that if they did disable multitabling what you claim would happen?

As of now, multitabling works just fine, albeit without HH in the chat box, and I would have to disagree they would disable multitabling to make more rake. I think a very strong argument could be made for more rake coming in because they allow multitabling.
12-01-2017 , 09:12 PM
this is really bad for one tablers as well.
12-02-2017 , 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by splayaa
Not sure I follow the logic, or the statement. Do you mean this as a theoretical statement that if they did disable multitabling what you claim would happen?

As of now, multitabling works just fine, albeit without HH in the chat box, and I would have to disagree they would disable multitabling to make more rake. I think a very strong argument could be made for more rake coming in because they allow multitabling.
I think I wasn't clear enough. I don't see any reason for GP to do something with multi tabling players. As these players generate more games, hence more hands played and more rake.
12-02-2017 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by niosocket
I think I wasn't clear enough. I don't see any reason for GP to do something with multi tabling players. As these players generate more games, hence more hands played and more rake.
Gotcha. Yep then we agree on that point for sure. I would think the best model for Global is allowing multi tabling.
12-02-2017 , 11:56 AM
i believe this is an unintended bug

      
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