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Ummmm... Coolers much?? Ummmm... Coolers much??

05-10-2017 , 03:47 AM
Has anyone else noticed an INCREDIBLE amount of coolers on this site? I've played on a lot of sites over the years, and have been relatively successful, mostly at FTP HUSNG's. But I have NEVER witnessed anything like this before. Site admin, I invite you to check out my hand histories. I probably have <5000 hands total. Check out pretty much every all in spot at 50NL where the pot was bigger than 100bb's. You'll notice that in almost every one, I'm either way ahead, or stuck in a cooler spot (JJ<QT on KJ9r board, 66<74 on 653r board, etc). Granted, I'm no pro by any stretch of the imagination (and there's a short stretch in there where I just jammed every hand at 20NL because I was bored) but the RIDICULOUS amounts of bad beats and coolers makes me think there's something going on with your site, whether it's cheating/colluding, or just a s**tty RNG. When playing against arguably the worst players on the planet, I shouldn't feel I'm at a disadvantage due to shotty software, but I get that feeling every single time I play on your site. I've never been one to feel online poker is rigged. I used to laugh at the idiots talking about how the site is screwing them because "ZOMG I lost with AA"..... But your site seriously has me questioning that. Seriously..... Please look at my hand histories and explain to me how you can just write this off as variance.
05-10-2017 , 06:35 AM
That's poker, folks. Seriously though, I have played a ton on the site and nothing seems out of the ordinary to me. Probably just a bad run. 5000 hands isn't many at all, keep getting it in with the best hand and let math run its course.
05-10-2017 , 10:00 AM
Yeah, silly me!! I should know better than to question a brand new poker site with garbage software after witnessing a mathematical anomaly!!

I've played on many different sites over the past 11 or so years and NEVER questioned the legitimacy of the site before. Something is not right with this site, and until someone can explain to me why im seeing what I'm seeing, I'll continue to not trust the site.
05-10-2017 , 10:42 AM
Where does Global have anything on their website posted about the RNG or any gaming commission or authority that regulates their software? I can't find anything.
05-10-2017 , 01:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vaz1981
Yeah, silly me!! I should know better than to question a brand new poker site with garbage software after witnessing a mathematical anomaly!!

I've played on many different sites over the past 11 or so years and NEVER questioned the legitimacy of the site before. Something is not right with this site, and until someone can explain to me why im seeing what I'm seeing, I'll continue to not trust the site.
You realize the amount of hands you've played is so insignificant...You also realize that you are basing this all off memory where you're 100000x more likely to remember a bad beat than every hand that held. You've played for 11 years online and do not realize this....

Ah location "eating poop..". Explains a lot.

Last edited by Rutledge Smitty; 05-10-2017 at 01:06 PM. Reason: Site is clearly rigged against this bro, but rigged in favor of me I guess :)
05-10-2017 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Rutledge Smitty
You realize the amount of hands you've played is so insignificant...You also realize that you are basing this all off memory where you're 100000x more likely to remember a bad beat than every hand that held. You've played for 11 years online and do not realize this....

Ah location "eating poop..". Explains a lot.
I don't know why I'm even entertaining this response, but I'll play along....

1) The fact that I've played for 11 years, on multiple platforms, played hundreds of thousands of hands, and have only NOW expressed skepticism over a new online platform with no record of any sort of regulation should make you question the site. Not me.

2) Yes, I know 5000 hands is insignificant. That was my point. When, in under 5000 hands, there are 40-50 coolers and bad beats that are INCREDIBLY unlikely to happen given my experience of hundreds of thousands of hands both live and online, once again, question the legitimacy of the site. Not me.

3) If you know anything about poker and followed it as much as I have over the years, you'll know where "eatin poop and stabbin dudes" came from....

https://www.pokerstrategy.com/forum/...hreadid=305253
05-10-2017 , 01:49 PM
I agree with the guy accusing the site of something messed up.

I been playing there for a couple month and the beats are extreme and often and i play 1 table at a time. So many hands are coolers or someone calling all their chips with a 3 outter and getting there.
05-10-2017 , 01:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vaz1981
I don't know why I'm even entertaining this response, but I'll play along....

1) The fact that I've played for 11 years, on multiple platforms, played hundreds of thousands of hands, and have only NOW expressed skepticism over a new online platform with no record of any sort of regulation should make you question the site. Not me.

2) Yes, I know 5000 hands is insignificant. That was my point. When, in under 5000 hands, there are 40-50 coolers and bad beats that are INCREDIBLY unlikely to happen given my experience of hundreds of thousands of hands both live and online, once again, question the legitimacy of the site. Not me.

3) If you know anything about poker and followed it as much as I have over the years, you'll know where "eatin poop and stabbin dudes" came from....

https://www.pokerstrategy.com/forum/...hreadid=305253
Idk why I'm entertaining this response, but I'll play along.

1) I guess if being regulated is really the issue you take then why did UB happen, Full Tilt, etc...They work under the sweepstakes laws in the US and their sister site has had no issues since they've been in operation. You're probably right though, the site didn't like your name, address, username and decided to rig it and cooler you. Good call good call.

2) Sure, post the 40-50 coolers you've experienced over your insignificant sample. Doesn't change the fact that your sample is completely useless. Please provide proof of the 40-50 coolers though.

3) You're a freak and a very weird dude who capitalizes random words in his sentences.
05-10-2017 , 03:53 PM
Confirmed rigged, thanks for letting us know!!!!
05-10-2017 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by IWishIWas
Where does Global have anything on their website posted about the RNG or any gaming commission or authority that regulates their software? I can't find anything.
Sites that have had things posted about their RNG and had various regulation have ended up taking players' money, so this means not much to me personally.


What is sketchy is that they have seemed to sidestep any question I've seen about the RNG. If they are operating under U.S. sweepstakes laws, shouldn't they be doing something to make sure it is a random sweepstakes, at least? I'm no lawyer, but it seems to me they could rig the RNG towards big hands and coolers to collect more rake, but still be within the laws as long as who wins each hand (or legally, "sweepstakes") is chosen at random.

Would it be legal to rig hands to make bigger pots as long as the cards are dealt randomly and not winning hands to house players? Not a rigtard, been playing here and will continue to do so, just an interesting thought for someone more knowledgeable to answer.
05-10-2017 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JMertz22
Sites that have had things posted about their RNG and had various regulation have ended up taking players' money, so this means not much to me personally.


What is sketchy is that they have seemed to sidestep any question I've seen about the RNG. If they are operating under U.S. sweepstakes laws, shouldn't they be doing something to make sure it is a random sweepstakes, at least? I'm no lawyer, but it seems to me they could rig the RNG towards big hands and coolers to collect more rake, but still be within the laws as long as who wins each hand (or legally, "sweepstakes") is chosen at random.

Would it be legal to rig hands to make bigger pots as long as the cards are dealt randomly and not winning hands to house players? Not a rigtard, been playing here and will continue to do so, just an interesting thought for someone more knowledgeable to answer.
This is exactly my thought as well. I'm not claiming the site is rigged against me. I'm a huge winner on the site. But the amount of all in hands and action flops are absurd. It's literally almost every hand up to 2/4 NLH. Every hand the rake cap is reached basically. 100 hands an hour is $300 off every 2/4 NLH table. It just seems strange to me.
05-10-2017 , 04:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JMertz22
Sites that have had things posted about their RNG and had various regulation have ended up taking players' money, so this means not much to me personally.


What is sketchy is that they have seemed to sidestep any question I've seen about the RNG. If they are operating under U.S. sweepstakes laws, shouldn't they be doing something to make sure it is a random sweepstakes, at least? I'm no lawyer, but it seems to me they could rig the RNG towards big hands and coolers to collect more rake, but still be within the laws as long as who wins each hand (or legally, "sweepstakes") is chosen at random.

Would it be legal to rig hands to make bigger pots as long as the cards are dealt randomly and not winning hands to house players? Not a rigtard, been playing here and will continue to do so, just an interesting thought for someone more knowledgeable to answer.
+100000 to this

My point wasn't to say it's only me getting screwed, because that isn't the case. In fact, I've been on the positive end of a series of ridiculous coolers. My point is EXACTLY what you're pointing out here. Something is up, but it can't be pinpointed. I've actually wondered the same thing about creating huge hands to collect more rake (which is laughably high for online poker btw). The situations that arise happen WAY more often than I've ever seen on any other site. Of course you'll have people say "well you see more hands online, so that happens". No. This is not even remotely close to the same thing. I will gladly post hand histories if I can get the admin to send them to me in a different format from what's currently on their site.... Anyway, Rutledge Smitty is either completely unnecessarily trusting of online sites whose sole purpose is to make as much rake as possible from players, or he's got some sort of stake in the site. Either way, based on my experience, he's wrong.
05-10-2017 , 07:05 PM
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but they are not entitled to their own facts.

We got a good thing going on here, why would we want to ruin that? Our license which includes the RNG certification is still under review so any update at this point is way above my pay grade. Now, some people probably see this as dodging the RNG question but tell you what, as soon as I have more info about this, you guys will surely be the first to know.
05-10-2017 , 07:32 PM
The company has outside shareholders that put up 16 million in investment dollars. They report to them via audited financials and the local regulatory bodies. Nigel Bythe-Tinker has run public companies and a long history of being an executive in the finance business. He is the grand poo-bah at Global. Consider the ridiculous assumption that he would risk a decades long career to set up some rigged system where he has no personal benefit, one way or the other. He does take on a lot of personal risk if the company is found to be doing something shady.

The information is out there, if you are willing to seek it out. This isn't a Full Flush deal with scumbags like Archer and secretive unknowns controlling everything. Global reports to shareholders and regulatory agencies.
05-10-2017 , 09:02 PM
This website is totally legit. I made like 10 deposits and was skeptical at first because of the great action. Kept losing though. Until I finally 1000x return one deposit. I swear this website is legit.
05-11-2017 , 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by vaz1981
after witnessing a mathematical anomaly!!
Since you've witnessed a mathematical anomaly, you shouldn't have a hard time providing some kind of evidence over a significant sample size (because if the sample isn't significant, you don't have a mathematical anomaly). Once you can do so, LMK and I can reopen this thread for you to post it, or you can start a new thread about it. Until then, your posts about suspicions and speculation belong here:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...dition-255990/

And no, I'm not locking this because Global advertises with us - we do the same thing with threads speculating about rigged theories on any site. Actually, we usually merge them into the linked thread; I'm locking this one so it will remain here for others to understand where these posts belong.

The reason we have one thread for all these sorts of posts is because we used to get multiple threads in Internet Poker with everyone's speculations, and the conversations/arguments all went the same way, leaving us with multiple duplicate discussions. We created a catch-all thread for all of these posts, but have always encouraged those with actual evidence to start a separate thread. Such a thread would be extremely important, and should be allowed to stand alone and not be confused with 4,829 other threads with people's unsubstantiated theories.

      
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