If it were really poker (with an actual RNG) it would have been shut down already, don't let the sweepstakes thing fool you.

Tell me what the difference is between being given "Sweeps cash" to play with or given "online chips" to play with? Nothing, at all. Nothing. If they had an actual RNG and it played like poker (where the winner is not predetermined) there is no way it would be happening, and certainly not through PayPal.

I know Global doesn't want to answer the question directly, maybe someone should reach out to someone from PayPal for their perspective.

Why not go with the blatantly obvious. You don't play with anything of real world value or have the ability to buy chips. You are GIVEN the $weeosCash which is a key component, and difference from other sites, to being legal.

The RNG is irrelevant when considering the legality. Here is another example of what Global is trying to do and it was shut down.

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/al-suprem...t/1438870.html

http://www.kilpatricktownsend.com/~/...Journal09.ashx

This link also goes into detail about that Alabama case.

This site will be closed down eventually. It is not legal. There may be pockets of the US where it is legal, but there are many states where it is not. I am only trying to warn you guys. Your money is not safe and eventually, they will have their Black Friday.

That's a good example of why they don't have an issue. Nothing of value is used to play the $weeps games.

People really think they have a better handle of this stuff than the attorneys that worked on it?? PayPal's entire legal team wasn't smart enough to unearth these 'obvious illegal activities' but random forum posters are......

You are an obvious company shill. Good luck finding a job in a couple of years lol. They are in clear violation of Michigan and Alabama law based on what I have provided. Lawyers interpret what they "think" about how the law should work.

Has anyone that cashed out more than $600 received a 1099? There are so many laws they are violating its not even funny. All it takes is enough disgruntled people to complain and some young gun attorney general out to make a name for himself and boom, bye bye Global.

Yes, I am a shill, got me. I don't want a job.

Seriously though, they are not obligated to provide 1099s as a foreign company. Do some research on Louise Pentland and on how PayPal is regulated by US statutes. Then you will understand how amusing it is when some random forum poster claims to know better than they do.

I'll save you some time in one area, PayPal is shutdown if they violate the UIGEA. Do you really think you have a better handle on this than they do? I'm not being a dick about it, just use common sense. What is the likelihood that someone here has ANY chance of understanding the sweepstakes laws, it's application, and legality vs the legal teams of PayPal and VGW?

Section 5363, Money Transfers[edit]
This section covers money transfers. The bill states "[n]o person engaged in the business of betting or wagering may knowingly accept" any money transfers in any way from a person participating in unlawful Internet gambling. This includes credit cards, electronic fund transfers, and even paper checks. But the restriction on transfers is limited to Internet gambling businesses, not mere players. It also would not cover payment processors or ISPs, even under a theory of aiding and abetting. The Act clearly does not make it a crime to knowingly transmit funds for illegal gambling. Neither the player nor the intermediary can be charged with this crime. The language of the Act even eliminates the possibility of charging financial institutions and computer hosts under a theory of aiding and abetting, since it explicitly states, in the definitions section, that being in the business of gambling does not include a "financial transaction provider," or an ISP.[17]


Actually, PayPal is not responsible nor are the players. Its is the gambling company that takes the fall. Not every rando on the internet is a dummy. Its funny how you think its legal because PayPal is involved.

Ok, you win.

I think PayPal would never risk their operations to cater to one company. Global represents a tiny fraction of their overall business, and as such would have never been allowed to operate this long if PayPal believed there was anything illegal about them. In fact, they would have never been approved. It's common sense.

Finally, I have cashed out more than my initial deposit. If **** hit the fan, I'd only lose some profit. However, given PayPal's due diligence, I don't see that happening.

Like I stated above, PayPal is not the one violating the law and therefore would suffer no consequences.

Then, why haven't they captured the illegal gambling market and accepted to process payments for all poker networks?

Hat to be a 'buzzkill', no pun intended, but your research ability is as proficient as your claim of me being a shill...


https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/search/pag...1-title12-vol3

The title is..... 12 CFR 233 - PROHIBITION ON FUNDING OF UNLAWFUL INTERNET GAMBLING (REGULATION GG)

expressly forbids banks from violating the UIGEA and their ability to do business is at risk if they continue to do so.

Like I stated above, it is comical to think that some random forum member knows better than the legal teams involved.

Wrong on me being a shill, wrong on the bank's liability, and wrong on Global violating US law.

Why don't you ask them? Maybe they do not want the bad press that comes with it. I have no idea, but that question does not negate the fact that Global is still breaking the law.

"knowingly"

PayPal's defense would be that they thought it was a sweepstakes. And as of right now, that is what they think it is, until and attorney general brings up charges. After charges are brought up, then they would be in violation.

Nice try.

Have a great day, don't quit your day job.

Global is in not in violation of federal law you ignoramus, so it would not apply anyway. It is state law that they are violating.

Gotcha! Fight the good fight

You should take the time to contact as many authorities and media outlets with your findings, and once you tell them that it is BuzzKill_McGee speaking, you will no doubt get the appreciate and consideration you deserve.

All the best.

https://www.clubwpt.com/prize-eligibility/

Why do you think they exclude certain states? Its because there are laws on making purchases and paying out prizes. If Global was legit in all 50 states, then Club WPT would be legit in all 50 states. Its the same concept. Buy something and we give you entries to win real money.

Isn’t BuzzKill_McGee the name of that famous lawyer? Oh it isn’t? Then stfu noob.


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The question is, who do you think is on the right side of the law, WPT or Global?

VGW and PayPal's legal team or a random forum poster?

Call up PayPal and ask them if you can send money to a gambling site. When they say no, share your expertise with them so they can correct their ways. It's just not fair to all the PayPal shareholders to be at risk from their incompetent legal team. Better yet! Feel free to email Me Pentland at apentland@paypal.com and tell her she and her team are grossly mistaken. You can save their $720k salary and future lawsuits.

I'm sure she will appreciate hearing from you.

Hahahahhahahaha. Idk why you're so dead set on wanting global to close down. He must have lost money on the site.

You keep bringing up PayPal like they make State laws. They do not. You cannot for one minute begin to explain why WPT would exclude some states and Global does not.

No, actually I study law and Black Friday was a recent issue in one of my classes. I see it happening again. That is all.