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Are There Bots/HUDs at Global? Are There Bots/HUDs at Global?

07-11-2018 , 10:08 PM
The use of third party software such as mentioned by OP is against our Terms of Service.

If found using these your account will be closed immediately.

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07-12-2018 , 11:14 PM
Lol @ caarlsagan talking smack
07-13-2018 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RiverJohn
Statements like this have never made sense.

A good player with a HUD is able to use the HUD to his advantage.

A bad player with a HUD is still bad and will never improve much, but he can make superficial adjustments that will improve his current play.

The technology of HUDs today allows players to make cookie-cutter plays taking advantage of specific weaknesses (through use of badges).
I'm not sure where we're off here, as I agree with everything in this post. I definitely agree that HUDs in general provide a benefit to users, but the degree to which they help is overstated. I completely agree that a fish with a HUD is still a fish and is still gonna lose, which was the point I was trying to make.

I would prefer if nobody had a HUD, but people shouldn't ever be scared off by the idea that some of these other players might have one. Some people seem to think a HUD is like a solver that actually tells you what buttons to click.
07-13-2018 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerONETWO
I'm not sure where we're off here, as I agree with everything in this post. I definitely agree that HUDs in general provide a benefit to users, but the degree to which they help is overstated. I completely agree that a fish with a HUD is still a fish and is still gonna lose, which was the point I was trying to make.

I would prefer if nobody had a HUD, but people shouldn't ever be scared off by the idea that some of these other players might have one. Some people seem to think a HUD is like a solver that actually tells you what buttons to click.
Yes, I completely agree with you then.
07-13-2018 , 08:56 PM
Yesterday, I observed a single player at $0.50/$1 sitting at 67 tables (he sat at them all by himself, "opening" the tables).

I wrote an email to support@globalpoker.com about this and returned to the lobby. He was then sitting at 92 tables. I did not observe further to see if he sat at more tables.

I then wrote a post in this forum about what I had observed. I used no names. This post was closed for "naming and shaming".

Can anyone please answer this question: Would a "real" person EVER sit at 92 tables? Ever?

This same player is currently playing on $0.50/$0.25 tables.

Can anyone answer this question: Why would global poker not IMMEDIATELY suspend this player's account pending investigation?

I have screen shots of the lobby of all (or at least most) of the tables that this player was sitting at. (Shows 1/6 and 1/9 for number of players)

Global Poker should be able to quickly and easily confirm that this player was seated at this number of tables.

Do they not even care now that botting goes on so obviously and in the open?
07-13-2018 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RiverJohn

Can anyone please answer this question: Would a "real" person EVER sit at 92 tables? Ever?
Yes
Can anyone answer this question: Why would global poker not IMMEDIATELY suspend this player's account pending investigation?
Bc it’s not against the rules to open a ton of tables
Do they not even care now that botting goes on so obviously and in the open?
I can’t say for certain. What you described is not an obvious sign that someone is a bot
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07-13-2018 , 10:29 PM
I am the original poster. I agree that HUDs don't help fish, but may very well assist savvy players. A well programmed bot can also fleece fish. See Shankybot, though I do not believe they support Global.

As one poster of my age mentioned, you do not see HUDs and bots at casinos. Its wishful thinking hoping not to encounter this online. If a bot can provide an unfair advantage to a player, it should be found and the player removed.
07-13-2018 , 11:15 PM
I still remember when StaySmacked said I was a bot lmfao dude is so mad he went busto or something
07-14-2018 , 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by bullhurleyiq
Don't think anybody has a HUD because of anon hand histories and no hand summaries in chat.
Bovada is anon and they have HUDs. These huds gather data on players only during a particular session. AS soon as a player leaves, the data can no longer be tied to him/her (except during review of play if on e were to download the HHs into HEM. At least do some simple research before posting your theory.
07-14-2018 , 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Derp!
Bovada is anon and they have HUDs. These huds gather data on players only during a particular session. AS soon as a player leaves, the data can no longer be tied to him/her (except during review of play if on e were to download the HHs into HEM. At least do some simple research before posting your theory.
And players at Global actually have an ID.

HUDs would not read from the hand histories; they would gather information as the game goes along. This can be done because the data is streaming through the browser.

Therefor, they can collect full histories of all players.

Tables can also be opened and read without being seated.

I am presenting this information here because everyone deserves to know about it and those who have the ability to program HUDs already know this information.

Developing a HUD specifically for Global Poker would take a large amount of resources; a team of four knowledgeable programmers should be able to do so within a month.

No, I haven't developed a HUD; I could probably do so, but it would probably take me year with my knowledge.
07-16-2018 , 10:52 AM
Just google "global poker bot". It's very easy to buy one. I know of others, not listed on quick google searches, that are much more powerful and can be bought.
10-03-2018 , 09:24 PM
I have pulled almost 6 figures if not more off this site and have played seriously for many years. I am on staySmacked' side. There is a definite problem of a few different things including: bots, huds, and players from outside of the US VPNing in. The games don't just turn horrible overnight like they did without players having massive advantages. What I find interesting is that there are many "fish" these days that you can mark as passive eg purple tag and a day later they are nitty, raising, and aggressive. I have played over 12 million hands of poker and have seen tons of players. Humans wont adjust like that. They will not constantly be changing strategies - at least going from clearly bad to good in a day. This type of thing is all over global poker now. There are also several players that stand out as clearly having extra information (a hud in use). Online poker is dying. Not going to say it is dead but it is surely dying and it is because of these things going on sand bleeding the games. Global poker needs to allow simple huds to level the playing field. they need to do some type of UI change every-so-often to make botting a pain for devs. Or even better there should be random captchas that pop up for EVERY player on a table 2 times an hours in a random location on the table. If a player cant solve the captchas and fail 30%+ over a decent sample then they need to be banned. Start with a 2 week ban as a warning then an IP ban. There are so many things a site could actually do but they have to want to. Global Poker doesnt look like it wants to.

PS sorry about the run-on paragraph.
10-04-2018 , 02:24 AM
i'm doing okay at the midstakes without one so i don't think they're THAT prevalent
10-04-2018 , 11:59 AM
HUDS r useful and obv nice to have but you should be taking useful notes on all players you can regardless. It shouldn’t take a HUD to tell you whether a player is going to 4 bet jam JJ or if they flat. Color tags r for labeling different player types and having your default strat vs that n notes to help adjust from that as needed.

HUDS might be out there obviously but I am not going to worry about it to much as not a whole lot I can do. If I suspect a bot I would email according and let the powers at be figure it from there. When you get enough time with these players you are most often to see there human elements imo.

Just my 2 cents. Gl out there all
10-04-2018 , 02:18 PM
i personally dont think people are using huds bcus everyone is horrible but i'm pretty sure there are 1 or 2 bots. The bots are the guys that sit down at a table that's just starting in any random seat, coz humans always sit to the fishes left
10-04-2018 , 02:31 PM
Captcha is a fantastic idea that Stars used to implement, so long as it's just tossed onto 1-2 tables occasionally. iirc Stars Captcha'd me once and I had to do it on 20 tables to continue playing.

As a sng player I am not too worried about bots or huds. If there are in fact bots, then I feel bad for whoever created them, because yikes. Step your game up lol.

@yourgfismyrailbird, my experience has not been that players appear to be quickly and dynamically adjusting, rather fewer massive fish have been pouring in since the removal of PayPal. That's just been my sng experience and I don't play cash.
10-04-2018 , 04:59 PM
i think bet scripts and seat scripts are more prevalent, cant count the number of times some ****head snap bet .31111111118493258385789% pot and its also fascinating how certain players sit in a great seat when it opens up in .00001 secs
10-04-2018 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by sirswish6
i think bet scripts and seat scripts are more prevalent, cant count the number of times some ****head snap bet .31111111118493258385789% pot and its also fascinating how certain players sit in a great seat when it opens up in .00001 secs
Bet scripts for sure, I saw someone trying to sell one on Discord. I don't suspect a single account of using a seating script. If you know of a NL player using one I'd be curious who it is and what stakes they play.

Last edited by The Apex; 10-04-2018 at 05:27 PM.
10-04-2018 , 06:13 PM
Yeah I'm 100% certain that nobody has a seat script thingy, one of the things that makes global so good imho
10-05-2018 , 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by sirswish6
i think bet scripts and seat scripts are more prevalent, cant count the number of times some ****head snap bet .31111111118493258385789% pot and its also fascinating how certain players sit in a great seat when it opens up in .00001 secs
I'm not sure about seat scripts (very few if any are being used IMO)... Bet scripts on the other hand are being used on the site by some players and there is not a doubt about that.
10-05-2018 , 05:12 PM
they should probably just make bet-scripts explicitly legal and available, especially on a site with a short time bank
10-05-2018 , 05:48 PM
it is annoying having to open 3 bb otb and in cutoff while these other guys use a bet script
10-05-2018 , 07:38 PM
yeah it would be good if global could allow us to choose the pre-set buttons so we could change em to like 2.5bb and stuff
10-06-2018 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by barney big nuts
it is annoying having to open 3 bb otb and in cutoff while these other guys use a bet script
The way you open 2.5bb or 2.2bb is to have this amount in the clipboard and just paste it into the betting window. No bet script needed.
10-06-2018 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by niosocket
The way you open 2.5bb or 2.2bb is to have this amount in the clipboard and just paste it into the betting window. No bet script needed.
Clipboard?Tech is not my friend... would you mind explaining to me how to go about doing this?
Thanks appreciate it

      
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