Interesting. I didn't do the detective work! There's nothing in the TC that mentions volume limit. The only relevant passage is 9.2 in the sweeps rules v2.8

"Sponsor/Promoter reserves the right in its sole discretion to disqualify any individual it finds to be tampering with the entry process or the operation of the Sweepstakes or to be acting in violation of these Sweeps Rules or any other promotion or in an unsportsmanlike or disruptive manner."

They aren't obligated to pay your bills for you. They can't and won't let you take any more advantage of it than their business model can tolerate. That's what they mean by "unsportsmanlike or disruptive manner." You're not there to play their games but to take their money which is unsportsmanlike and disruptive to their business model.

Go ahead. Get your self banned.

Sure haven't heard anything from mass mailer Bawsten in a while. That to me is evidence that he received a bulk catchup recently like many did, as he usually only complains when they fall way behind. Which would support the theory that this person is trying to discourage mass mailings.

Do you really think their business model will allow unlimited numbers of people doing this? Do you really think when too many are doing it they won't find a way to stop it? Do you really think the world exists to give you freebies?

This has been talked out to death. Yes some people take advantage and it's bad in general. Sometimes they get banned. The law says, blah blah. We all get both sides by now. I hate it cause abc...I like it cause xyz. 7 pages of this nonsense thread with the occasional bit of info.

Also false. Which would debunk any theory others may have that I'm trying to discourage people from sending. Fendoff,luckyland and chumba have not refused any envelopes or sent any threatening emails.

Vgw literally gives millions of dollars away to players for simply logging in each day. So yes, it's required for them to be a legal sweepstakes.

My guess is Global is the site they are losing money on so they further discourage the AMOE on that site. You're welcome to look at their financials that are available to all.

The other posters claimed they are banned. I'm not banned from Global.

The millions a day that they "give out" are the free sweeps they give with gold coin purchases, not the promotion they give to mass mailers.

Their latest report does not appear to be public. They are not publicly traded. I can only find that their total revenues, which would be total sales, are about $1.5M a day Do you have a link?

Your assumptions about me are completely off base.

They give $1 a day to everyone that logs into Luckyland and Chumba. They have millions of customers. So they also give millions away every day that their users log in to their accounts at each site. No purchase necessary.

So if all you do is log in to those sites you get $2 every day.

The money they "give out" includes the free sweeps with gold coin purchases, as you mentioned, the daily log in bonuses, as well as the AMOE entries.

They serve the US and Canada that's it. Global isn't that big at all just a few thousands players a day. And I doubt the other sites get a million customers logging daily with a large number of competing casinos in the US.

You just make stuff up to justify what you do. You're just too lazy to get a job.

I'm talking about VGW as a whole. I'm not making anything up. You're the one who is using figures of Global poker player pool when Global is about 1/20th the size of Chumba and Luckyland combined.

I'm self-employed, so I'm able to do envelopes in my free time. Considering I took all my payouts in crypto(bitcoin) with their prizeout option, I've done exceptionally well off of this envelope thing considering I never spent more than 25 hours a week doing it. Usually just 10-15 hours tops.

But thank you for your concern.

Yes you are making stuff up. In the last report VGW published Global was about 1/4 of their business.

I agree with whoever it was that said this stuff's been talked to death. One way to make that a better discussion is if people would actually post an email they received on this subject as opposed to general statements.

Beer drunker, you seem pretty well reasoned. Can you just search your email for your message from Global saying they weren't going to give you promo envelopes anymore?

Hello Name,
We are contacting you regarding an internal review of your Global Poker account and the activities relating to that account.

We remind you that all postal requests must be compliant with all our Sweeps Rules. Future requests that do not comply with all the Sweeps Rules may result in further action, including but not limited to your requests being deemed invalid.

While we encourage customers to participate in our sweepstakes promotion and send in postal requests for free Sweeps Coins, all participation must be fair and honest so that other customers are not disadvantaged.
Please refer to our current terms and conditions and Sweeps Rules for more information.

ive sent in ~4000 since last summer and have never gotten an email from them like that, im in the top 20 or so in games played last 2 yrs so that might have something to do with

After this email I never received credits again. Never having issues with any of the other VGW sites for sweeps. I'm still allowed to play, purchase gold coins, withdraw, everything. They just wont accept any envelopes for me anymore.

I was complying with all of the rules, following each and every rule exactly. I was even credited today on Chumba for my envelopes I sent.

So it goes back to Global not being profitable, so it seems as though they are tougher on AMOE entries than their casino sites.

I've always done more for the other sites than Global. I've probably done maybe 5000 to Global in the same time frame as you. I increased my envelope output around Thanksgiving/Xmas time of last year for a few weeks. But I'm nowhere near top 20 in volume on the site. So I'm sure that definitely has something to do with it.

Thanks.

I was about to write a response and then realized I had completely misunderstood that letter.

That letter doesn't say you can't process sweeps envelopes requests anymore. It just reiterates that you need to follow the instructions in sweep rules...and if you don't, then they "might" be invalidated.


"Future requests that do not comply with all the Sweeps Rules may result in further action, including but not limited to your requests being deemed invalid."


Tht begs two questions:

1. Seems like there are previous emails sent to you describing some action or inaction. And that without those this letter is devoid of context. Is there any previous communication related to the subject? Maybe a better saying that they for example 500 of your envelopes or something?


2. Did you ever contact GPCS and ask them what it was that you might have done in violation of the rules? Without knowing this, there's no way to know what happened.

Swish...nice blast from the past!

I don't read or post much on 2+2, so when I saw you posting it gave me a total flashback to pocketfives pre-blackfriday. I'm like "that names totally familiar"

I'm just going to assume that you haven't dealt with support regarding anything of this caliber. All they say is you need to follow the sweeps rules and give you the link to their site.

While you might not think this email was threatening, it was. It goes to show that they can cut you off for any reason they want and give you no answer as to why. There were no other emails. If I email them about it they simply say I need to follow the sweeps rules. They won't tell you anything about your account, the account review, anything. It's like talking to a brick wall.

They send emails saying if you had envelopes denied if you didn't follow the rules. They won't tell you what rule you didn't follow, it's up to you to figure it out. I've never had envelopes denied. My envelopes were not denied, they all followed the sweeps rules exactly, and they simply just don't accept my envelopes anymore. I've had no issues with the other sites. In fact, I received credit yesterday for Chumba and today for Luckyland.

So it's Global, and Global alone, that shut me off.

I still don't think it's volume. ban hammer for volume makes no sense to me, because they can up the playthrough up to 20x for any individual. And with 5pct rake, playing through 20x gives them their money back and would be the more reasonable solution to me.

I think it's something else and have some more theories, but need some more info

Are you able to get the daily free SC when you login? Bc if you cannot then they appear to have DQ d you from the promotion as a whole.

When was your last SC credit granted for envelope requests? And when do you think you would have written those requests that were granted? I'm wondering if it corresponds to the change to v2.8 of the sweeps rules on I think 1.11.2021.

More on the shittiness of them supplying no info to you later.

I got banned randomly about 45 minutes ago. Absolutely no reason was given. I plan on challenging this internally with them and legally with my lawyers. Ive broken NO rules. Ive followed specifically everything within their T&C and sweeps rules perfectly. I was credited 2980 sweeps coins just 7 days ago last wednesday. This is the lowest volume that Ive put in for envelopes in the past 3 months and now out of nowhere I get banned.

I can be extremely loud about this. If they dont over turn this im going to burn the house down and make youtube videos showing the entire world how to make free money from Global. Theyre operating under a loophole to be legal in the US and take a rake from a gambling enterprise. Im doing nothing different and operating under the loophole that MUST exist for them to be deemed a legal entity in the US. Ive broken NO rules. There are NO limits posted anywhere on their site or in their terms. This was also without warning. I can be very loud publicly about this and intend to let the world know that youre not allowed to profit on global or they will ban you while taking advantage of a grey area loophole themselves to profit off of gaming.


Yasmin (Global Poker)

May 13, 2021, 8:03 AM GMT+8

Hello XXXXX ,

We are writing to inform you that after a routine security review, your Global Poker account was deactivated permanently.

We have the authority over maintaining, issuing, suspending or deactivating Customer accounts on our Platform as per our Terms & Conditions, clause 19.1:

https://globalpoker.com/terms-conditions

"19. DEACTIVATION / SUSPENSION OF ACCOUNT

19.1. VGW Group reserves the right to deactivate or suspend your Customer Account for any reason whatsoever at any time without notifying you."

Additionally, you are not allowed to create any new accounts on our Platform as disclosed in our Card Room Rules:

https://globalpoker.com/card-room-rules/

"1.2. Opening a Global Poker Account
…
e. If your Global Poker Account is restricted/suspended from Global Poker's Games or if your Global Poker Account is closed by Global Poker for whatever reason, you are not permitted to create another Global Poker Account."

Thank you for your cooperation.
Regards,
Yasmin
Global Poker Game Integrity





Not even a reason given.

What more info could you need? I received credits after that date. So no, it doesn't have anything to do with updated terms or rules.

Yes, I can get daily sweeps.

You won't get one either. Look at their customer acceptance policy.They can ban you for whatever reason they'd like.