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02-12-2018 , 07:37 PM
I've used tabs for the last few months and am able to play about 15ish SnGs, mix of 6m and 9m, at a time. I've never played more than 4 cash at a time, but the tabs just have to be the way to go for masstabling.

I'd kill for the ability to cascade tables where tables pop-up when you have to act, like other sites allow. You can easily play 24+ tables on one monitor while having good sight of each table as it pops up.
02-15-2018 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 3betpanda
Can someone look into the account "barber89". Very suspicious activity , he is 20 tabling and his actions seem very bot like, instantaneously acting despite mass tabling, bet patterns etc I have hours recorded if anyone wants to further analyze, considering what just happened on ACR it wouldn't surprise me.
I haven't read through the 50 or so "dude you like totally suck at poker and there's nothing to see here" replies I expect followed...

That said, I know the account you're talking about. If I had to name one single account at GP who is a bot, this would be the one. (Though, there's plenty of questionable stuff going on.)

An insane number of tables across two stakes at least, seems to have a good win rate... never makes a mistake... bets the exact same increments (odd choices) every time. Mechanical is indeed how I would explain the play.

Does that mean it's a bot? No, of course not. This is an anecdotal observation.
However, it's interesting that I'm not the first to notice it.

Gosh, if only there were some way to dig into this a bit more. Like... a way to see the hands you've played against certain opponents, or win/loss rates... or... like... track bet sizing and compare it to other players, etc....
02-28-2018 , 03:16 PM
I made an account just to respond to you. I literally googled barber89 because I thought they were a bot. Doesn't show up on sharkscope. If they weren't a bot they would have moved up a longgg time ago.
02-28-2018 , 03:41 PM
Serious question;

I'm a reg at GP, varying from .25/.5 to .5/1, PLO cash only, play about 5 days/week for hours at a time.

If, and I'm acknowledging I'm a rook at bot detection, what exactly should we be looking for or are bots mainly SNG's only?

What are the signs? No auto reload if busted? Uncharacteristic plays out of position without much thought? With all the talk about bots, I'm not really seeing specific examples of what to look for but instead, all allegations of bots are "their win rate is way too high"..
02-28-2018 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by dmcviquinini
Serious question;

I'm a reg at GP, varying from .25/.5 to .5/1, PLO cash only, play about 5 days/week for hours at a time.

If, and I'm acknowledging I'm a rook at bot detection, what exactly should we be looking for or are bots mainly SNG's only?

What are the signs? No auto reload if busted? Uncharacteristic plays out of position without much thought? With all the talk about bots, I'm not really seeing specific examples of what to look for but instead, all allegations of bots are "their win rate is way too high"..
There are definitely PLO bots. Detecting them on global is going to be near impossible without stats. Just the simple truth unfortunately. Would love to hear how Global goes about detecting bots, but simply looking at other sites it usually comes down to a group of players identifying the bots.
03-01-2018 , 09:19 AM
I know a guy who plays live poker at our local casino with a 10" windows tablet in front of him.

He used to play on Chico - but now he plays on Global. He sits with - from what I've seen - anywhere from 12-16 tables open on Global while also playing live hands. His stylus never stops moving as he flips thru windows, makes snap decisions (which probably appear to be stalling to others), and moves on.

I bet a lot of people think he's a bot.
03-01-2018 , 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Rutledge Smitty
There are definitely PLO bots. Detecting them on global is going to be near impossible without stats. Just the simple truth unfortunately. Would love to hear how Global goes about detecting bots, but simply looking at other sites it usually comes down to a group of players identifying the bots.
Good reply and pretty much what I was thinking.

I've identified 1 account I believe could, stress could, be a bot due to what I see as fishy betting patterns, no auto reload if get down to say $2.34 when buying in for max every time...etc

I don't believe in putting out accusations in public so I honestly do my best just to avoid the player and when its jamming something on a rag board, I believe 100% he has it so I dump unless I have the absolute nuts going into it. During call downs I've had, the player has had it every time. Literally, and no one is that good, IMHO.
03-01-2018 , 10:32 AM
Is Global going to acknowledge all the NL bots that we’re busted at the mid stakes?
03-01-2018 , 12:19 PM
For what it's worth this account is still active at micros, has moved up and down a bit but seems to be playing 24/7 on about 15-20 tables at all times still. Has anyone actually contacted Global about it yet?

(Disclaimer: This doesn't prove its a bot... but I can see why people question this given the volume and particular odd bet patterns, etc.)
03-01-2018 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by StaYSMacKed
Is Global going to acknowledge all the NL bots that we’re busted at the mid stakes?
who was busted?
03-01-2018 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 3betpanda
Can someone look into the account "barber89". Very suspicious activity , he is 20 tabling and his actions seem very bot like, instantaneously acting despite mass tabling, bet patterns etc I have hours recorded if anyone wants to further analyze, considering what just happened on ACR it wouldn't surprise me.
I have played him, he does seem to be at a lot of tables but I don't think that makes him a bot. I do have some notes on him, one of them that would not be likely linked to a bot's strategy.
03-01-2018 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TakeNotesPlease
I really, really, hate to break it to you. But I can play 16 tables in TAB MODE using one screen on a laptop in tab mode. I have also played well over 20 tables before with multiple monitors setup. The worst part is, I'm not a bot
I guess its possible on 9 max tables. But not 16 6 max tables. They are like turbo tables they run to fast. Or you need some sort of software. I was assuming he was talking about cash game tables. But sngs its definitely possible to run a a lot more tables you basically nit it up and wait for good hands with a bunch of 9 max and few 6 max tables. I could see someone do that.
03-03-2018 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by LOL Bro
I have played him, he does seem to be at a lot of tables but I don't think that makes him a bot. I do have some notes on him, one of them that would not be likely linked to a bot's strategy.
Yeah I see this account regularly, but he/she does not act instantaneously in my experience, in fact lots of lags due to obvious multi-tabling. Seems super nitty to me.
03-04-2018 , 11:38 AM
go to youtube and type in good news our bots are now working on global poker and see what pops up i seen this video about 3 mouths ago and again tha other day and notices it only had a few hundred views on it you should check it out
03-04-2018 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Ohmsofmayhem
go to youtube and type in good news our bots are now working on global poker and see what pops up i seen this video about 3 mouths ago and again tha other day and notices it only had a few hundred views on it you should check it out


Good idea. Let’s spread info on how to find working bots on global that only has a few hundred views


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03-04-2018 , 03:42 PM
Was suspicious of a certain player, so decided to cross reference and see how his mtt stats look on sharkscope. Only to find out he has zero tracked hands, but interestingly enough... another user did pop up with the exact same name with 1 exception an S at the end.

bete1 > bete1s

coincidence? doubtful, it has only 1 tracked game.

at the VERY minimum this needs to be investigated for multiaccounting, and tracked to see common players he is at tables with because I was already suspicious of collusion at my table.

globaljoey, I've emailed support but I'd also like this addressed publicly.
03-04-2018 , 03:45 PM
Another thing I'd like addressed...

And this is something everyone can go look at and see before 4p (the start of the 5k bonanza)

why is it that these users:

1 Holser
1 Pureking
1 STAGGERLEA

are always registered at the very top of the 5k and a lot of the 500 bonanzas?

it goes #-alphabet in the listed player pool with the only exception being these 3 players, not just once, every time I go to register?
03-04-2018 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by LOL Bro
Another thing I'd like addressed...

And this is something everyone can go look at and see before 4p (the start of the 5k bonanza)

why is it that these users:

1 Holser
1 Pureking
1 STAGGERLEA

are always registered at the very top of the 5k and a lot of the 500 bonanzas?

it goes #-alphabet in the listed player pool with the only exception being these 3 players, not just once, every time I go to register?
when they made their usernames they prob put spaces before the start of their username

Last edited by 1loNgGr1ND; 03-04-2018 at 04:02 PM.
03-04-2018 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Ohmsofmayhem
go to youtube and type in good news our bots are now working on global poker and see what pops up i seen this video about 3 mouths ago and again tha other day and notices it only had a few hundred views on it you should check it out
Looks to be more of a HUD than a bot.
03-04-2018 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 1loNgGr1ND
when they made their usernames they prob but spaces before the start of their username
That's an interesting point, still would like globaljoey to chime in to confirm. I did notice another user at the top but only once, its name was literally "Global Poker" I realize that this could easily just be a regular user but when the tournament launched I searched for "Global Poker" and he was not listed in the player pool any longer.

I'm probably sounding very tin foil hat right now and I'm sure this can all be explained but this is the reason that this forum's here.

Joey?
03-04-2018 , 04:47 PM
I found this somewhat interesting. I googled "bots compatible w GP" or something like that and one of the things that i found is what appears to be the support forum for a particular bot program. There was a thread titled " New Site Global Poker' that I found. Within some of the posts there was some back and forth with some 'bot runners', i guess they would be called, inquiring about programs being compatible with GP and the Administrator/ Programmer responding that he would work on it. Then this was posted by the Admin/ Programmer:

Re: New Site Global Poker
Post by Alex » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:24 am

Bad news guys
Those Global Poker tables are too hard to scrape - i don't know if it is some kind of anti-bot measures, or just a "feature", but common card ranks and suits fonts are crazy - they appear in different places each time, and font size changes from smaller to bigger unexpectedly. I have not even checked pocket card slots, probably the same tricks there.


Obviously this doesn't mean that there are no bots operating on GP right now but if it is some kind of anti-bot measure GP uses, as this guy seems to think, hopefully it's something that shows that GP is actually proactively doing something to combat this. I definitely know very little about computer programing and coding or how poker bots work but if this is some type of counter measure used against it makes me wonder why , at least from what I've read,why counter-measures like this aren't being used by another site that I know of that has been ruined by widespread botting (sorry, I know that is a subject for another forum lol).
03-04-2018 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 1loNgGr1ND
I found this somewhat interesting. I googled "bots compatible w GP" or something like that and one of the things that i found is what appears to be the support forum for a particular bot program. There was a thread titled " New Site Global Poker' that I found. Within some of the posts there was some back and forth with some 'bot runners', i guess they would be called, inquiring about programs being compatible with GP and the Administrator/ Programmer responding that he would work on it. Then this was posted by the Admin/ Programmer:

Re: New Site Global Poker
Post by Alex » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:24 am

Bad news guys
Those Global Poker tables are too hard to scrape - i don't know if it is some kind of anti-bot measures, or just a "feature", but common card ranks and suits fonts are crazy - they appear in different places each time, and font size changes from smaller to bigger unexpectedly. I have not even checked pocket card slots, probably the same tricks there.


Obviously this doesn't mean that there are no bots operating on GP right now but if it is some kind of anti-bot measure GP uses, as this guy seems to think, hopefully it's something that shows that GP is actually proactively doing something to combat this. I definitely know very little about computer programing and coding or how poker bots work but if this is some type of counter measure used against it makes me wonder why , at least from what I've read,why counter-measures like this aren't being used by another site that I know of that has been ruined by widespread botting (sorry, I know that is a subject for another forum lol).
That's a good find, thanks. I did watch a youtube video that was mentioned a few posts up of a guy running a program that was scraping in real time but did not show any hud / bot running programs, obviously he could have purposely hid those.
03-04-2018 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by LOL Bro
That's an interesting point, still would like globaljoey to chime in to confirm. I did notice another user at the top but only once, its name was literally "Global Poker" I realize that this could easily just be a regular user but when the tournament launched I searched for "Global Poker" and he was not listed in the player pool any longer.

I'm probably sounding very tin foil hat right now and I'm sure this can all be explained but this is the reason that this forum's here.

Joey?
Hey LOL Bro,

I am sorry but I am not really sure what you are asking for here? The names are listed in alphabetical order with spaces and special characters being at the front.

Hope this helps and if I am missing the question please feel free to elaborate.
03-04-2018 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 1loNgGr1ND

Re: New Site Global Poker
Post by Alex » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:24 am

Bad news guys
Those Global Poker tables are too hard to scrape - i don't know if it is some kind of anti-bot measures, or just a "feature", but common card ranks and suits fonts are crazy - they appear in different places each time, and font size changes from smaller to bigger unexpectedly. I have not even checked pocket card slots, probably the same tricks there.
This makes me happy. Glad to see that our methods are working!
03-04-2018 , 08:44 PM
I just want to make a comment here in line with something I posted in another thread a week or so ago.

Please do not keep typing names of players you think may be a bot or involved in collusion.

We do not want Salem Witch Trials happening on Global Poker. More often than not the people who are accused are not bots and are innocent and don't deserve to have their name tarnished unfairly.

The first step should always be to send any players you are concerned about to support@globalpoker.com we take this very seriously and EVERY SINGLE concern that is raised will be fully and carefully analyzed.

We have been investing heavily in this part of the business of late and have some experts who have previously managed security teams at the worlds' largest poker sites who have joined our team and are leading the way. We are confident that we are working towards a security team that players can be comfortable with.

I know in the wake of Chicago_Joey videos which we have all watched that looking for bots is high on everyone's mind at the moment. If you have watched his videos though one thing you will notice is that he put in hundreds of hours of research and analysis before going public. He didn't name any players until he was sure.

Keeping our site on the level is very important to us and we value your assistance in doing so. Please help up balance the fine line between keeping the site safe and not unfairly tarnishing players names by reporting players you have concerns about to us through support@globalpoker.com as a first step and allow us to conduct a review instead of just throwing names up on a forum.

Thanks.

      
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