Sitting at TWO tables in 50k, huge error - Page 2 - Global Poker -- Two Plus Two Poker Forums

The only ethical way to to address this:
Every player who cashed gets their payout+$18 rake returned
Everyone else gets $218 refund.

Global took $4,662 in rake for a service they failed to provide to a single player. Every bit of the rake should be refunded. All prizes won should be honored, and all players who did not cash should have their buyin refunded.

Before anyone says “not all players where negatively impacted only the ones who sat at one of OPs tables”:
1: there is zero chance OP is the first instance of this happening and there is no way to safely assume this wasn’t going on with other accounts
2: chips were coming out of play every time his accounts corrected to same chip stack. This impacts the whole field.

Lastly, here’s a theory for the root of this “glitch” in the software:
Let’s preteve for a minute Global uses house players/bots to fill out its larger prizepools and win some of the larger prizes in order to negate their losses in overlays.
Said House players/bots would also prefer to knock out good winning players along the way so more recs cash. If Global only employed one or 2 of these accounts per major in order to only claim one major prize, they would be more effective at the assasination of winning regs if the single account could play multiple tables throughout the tournament...then be only one account at the end
Also to be honest the goal MAY be just to assassinate good regs an dump chips to losing players to gift losing players large cashes.

I’m either case it makes sense the accounts have to always auto correct to lowest balance bc it’s much more likely to be noticed if they all correct to the highest balance.

My theory is global has a mechanism for this internal cheating method and somehow OPs registration fell into it.

FYI, the tournament ended with 2,596,998 chips. There were 259 players with 10k chips each, do the math. Somehow the tourney ends with an additional 6,998 chips?

07-09-2018 , 12:15 PM

#28

AmAtEuR_backwards

enthusiast

Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 80

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geaux

FYI, the tournament ended with 2,596,998 chips. There were 259 players with 10k chips each, do the math. Somehow the tourney ends with an additional 6,998 chips?

Bc there were at least 260 x 10,000 chips to start bc OP was counted as one entrant but had 2 10k stacks.
When one of his accounts busted the other stack was removed from play. The total amount of chips OP lost to the field between both accounts was 16,998 chips.

This does not necessarily mean that his living—and then removed from play—account had 3002 chips when he busted (although it could have that amount as a scenario) because every time he got moved to a new table his 2 accounts autocorrected to the lower of the 2 chipstacks. So between that and his final stack being taken out of play there was a net 3002 chip siphoned out of play.

07-09-2018 , 12:22 PM

#29

pokerONETWO

banned

Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 589

I mean this is obviously a big issue but ruetama needs to learn about Occam's Razor, going on about house accounts and targeting regs and all this **** ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor

The far more likely explanation is that some type of glitch occurred. I do agree that people should get refunded.

07-09-2018 , 02:06 PM

#30

quaid745

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 463

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmAtEuR_backwards

Lastly, here’s a theory for the root of this “glitch” in the software:
Let’s preteve for a minute Global uses house players/bots to fill out its larger prizepools and win some of the larger prizes in order to negate their losses in overlays.
Said House players/bots would also prefer to knock out good winning players along the way so more recs cash. If Global only employed one or 2 of these accounts per major in order to only claim one major prize, they would be more effective at the assasination of winning regs if the single account could play multiple tables throughout the tournament...then be only one account at the end
Also to be honest the goal MAY be just to assassinate good regs an dump chips to losing players to gift losing players large cashes.

I’m either case it makes sense the accounts have to always auto correct to lowest balance bc it’s much more likely to be noticed if they all correct to the highest balance.

My theory is global has a mechanism for this internal cheating method and somehow OPs registration fell into it.

Think about it...they are having a hard enough time getting the site and software running smooth. To have the ability for internal cheating while worrying about not being exposed doesn't seem likely.

Also, do the math about how much rake they get from cash tables per hour (with no rakeback). It doesn't make sense to me that they would want to risk their business model.

Plus, aren't you a winning player? I'm surprised you are that paranoid. I mean it's good to question things but you go overboard.

07-09-2018 , 03:00 PM

#31

glutenfree

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,766

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokerONETWO

Ruetama likes to go on and on about how GP is cheating, shady, scumbags etc and yet he's still playing on the site he doesn't trust at all. And ranting at the tables about how the site is rigged with set up hands and they are cheating players and yada yada yada. Definitely harmful to the player pool and the site. I mean it's gotten so ridiculous that I'm surprised that 1) he's actually still playing voluntarily on the site and 2) the site is still allowing him to play and not showing him the door. They do have the right to refuse service, this would seem to be a premiere case to do so on Global's part.

Regarding this glitch, yes this is serious business and GP should make it a top priority to identify and solve this. A refund is certainly not out of order.

PS- Ruetama was also going on again (at the tables) about how he's the greatest MTT player on the site and it's not even debatable, and his key to success is folding KK preflop in obvious set up/rigged spots, so I doubt that table took him seriously with his accusations of cheating and such. lol

07-09-2018 , 03:58 PM

#32

NTellier85

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 450

Joey,

What does Global plan to do about this situation?

07-09-2018 , 07:52 PM

#33

1loNgGr1ND

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 195

I'm interested to know what Globals response was to OP.

07-09-2018 , 08:49 PM

#34

yellowfever

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 5,026

Quote:

Originally Posted by glutenfree

Yeah they really should just ban his account from playing. Hes clearly super toxic to the website. Ban him and let him freely play on Ingition/WPN where he has nobody to cry about the riggedness too.

3.1.7. VGW RMG Malta reserves the right to refuse or close a Member Account at its sole discretion but any contractual obligations already made by VGW RMG Malta shall be honoured accordingly.

07-09-2018 , 10:47 PM

#35

glutenfree

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,766

Quote:

Originally Posted by cAArlsagan

They're going to refund everyone their buyin, respect the payouts from the tournament, and order us all hookers for our troubles.

You had me at hookers.

07-09-2018 , 11:34 PM

#36

FireFighter

adept

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 966

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmAtEuR_backwards

You're a complete waste of oxygen.

07-10-2018 , 01:01 PM

#37

StaYSMacKed

grinder

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 616

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTellier85

Joey,

What does Global plan to do about this situation?

Joey will come in, say “PM me” followed by “Locking this thread, it’s run it’s course”.

07-10-2018 , 10:13 PM

#38

threebanger

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 616

On top of everything else, if your eyes aren't opened by this to how corrupt the software is, you just want to be lied to, or are in on the lie.

07-11-2018 , 11:37 AM

#39

oblafm

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 46

Well fellas, after speaking with global poker joey and sending him a video of what occurred Sunday evening. I am still waiting for any kind of compensation / info / results / anything on the matter. Also have spoken with support via email and they updated me this morning with....

"Hi xxxxxx!

This is Julienne from the Global Poker Support Team.

Thank you for getting back to us regarding your concern. We are still waiting for an update regarding this from our Poker Team. We will notify you as soon as we have an update.

We hope for your patience on this matter. Should you need further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us via support@globalpoker.com or by submitting a request in our Help Center, https://globalpoker.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new.
Kind Regards,
Julienne"

So, pretty much no update or compensation. And I definitely do not plan on depositing or playing on the site until something is resolved and I am compensated for buy-in / time. Trying to be patient but this is frustrating to say the least.

-UNFORGIVABLE

07-12-2018 , 09:31 AM

#40

oblafm

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 46

Here is the video their technical team is analyzing from the 50k on sunday. It's a pretty boring 40 min vid but if you fast forward to around 23 minutes in as it is coming to break, you can see it get even stranger. Pay attention to where it switches tables as break ends...the chip stack at the table I am playing on changes to the amount of the table that I am sitting out on. Which happened multiple times prior to this video....Which led me to screen record the rest of the session until busting. Still waiting for compensation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2M31onHoR8&t=54s

(yes i know my username on global is different from my username on here....UNFORGIVABLE was already taken by someone on here )

07-18-2018 , 07:29 PM

#41

bardolino

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 487

Bump for an update?

07-19-2018 , 04:24 AM

#42

The Apex

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 3,603

He posted in another thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by oblafm

Update. I have been reimbursed my buy-in. Not sure they are going to with fixing that problem tho.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...&postcount=121

07-24-2018 , 02:13 PM

#43

SIRRRRR

enthusiast

Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 91

Do we know what the final outcome of this was?

07-25-2018 , 08:23 AM

#44

splayaa

old hand

Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 1,546

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIRRRRR

Do we know what the final outcome of this was?

See the link in the post directly above the one you made

07-25-2018 , 10:34 AM

#45

oblafm

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 46

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIRRRRR

Do we know what the final outcome of this was?

I was refunded my tournament buy-in....I have not been informed of any changes made or fixes.

Page 2 of 2

First

1 2

Last

...

Page 2 of 2

First

1 2

Last