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Should GP reduce the rake as table becomes short handed? Should GP reduce the rake as table becomes short handed?
View Poll Results: Should GP reduce the rake as table becomes short handed?
Yes
50 90.91%
No
5 9.09%

08-17-2018 , 01:15 PM
Players leave as table gets short handed due to high rake and eventually it breaks. I think this would benefit all, including GP, as people continue playing on short handed when rake is reduced.
08-17-2018 , 02:53 PM
Yes ldo
08-21-2018 , 04:09 PM
@ TERR1FYER, Please share your thoughts as to why rake shouldn't be reduced in short handed games.
08-22-2018 , 06:45 PM
morerakeisbetter.com
08-22-2018 , 06:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spax2
morerakeisbetter.com
lol
08-23-2018 , 02:58 AM
Yes of course, the rake needs to drop all across the board imo
08-23-2018 , 03:40 PM
I was actually hoping to increase the rake-Just want to make sure everyone at global is getting fairly compensated for all their hard work. Thanks GP!
08-23-2018 , 08:39 PM
No .. not at all. in fact, raise it up some. The only people really concerned with the rake are pro players. Rec players dont care about high rake as much. Recs just want to play their tourneys and some cash maybe. High rake will keep most of the pros away. Recs love any pot they win reguardless of the rake. Keep it high.
08-23-2018 , 09:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheKrakenWins
No .. not at all. in fact, raise it up some. The only people really concerned with the rake are pro players. Rec players dont care about high rake as much. Recs just want to play their tourneys and some cash maybe. High rake will keep most of the pros away. Recs love any pot they win reguardless of the rake. Keep it high.
Source?
08-23-2018 , 10:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheKrakenWins
No .. not at all. in fact, raise it up some. The only people really concerned with the rake are pro players. Rec players dont care about high rake as much. Recs just want to play their tourneys and some cash maybe. High rake will keep most of the pros away. Recs love any pot they win reguardless of the rake. Keep it high.
Did DNegs get a new 2p2 account?
08-24-2018 , 12:38 AM
of course they SHOULD, but they probably won't.
08-24-2018 , 10:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by whatbox420
I was actually hoping to increase the rake-Just want to make sure everyone at global is getting fairly compensated for all their hard work. Thanks GP!
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheKrakenWins
No .. not at all. in fact, raise it up some. The only people really concerned with the rake are pro players. Rec players dont care about high rake as much. Recs just want to play their tourneys and some cash maybe. High rake will keep most of the pros away. Recs love any pot they win reguardless of the rake. Keep it high.
What stakes do you play?
08-24-2018 , 01:29 PM
do other online poker sites do this?
08-24-2018 , 03:19 PM
Yes, they all do afaik. GP only gives .50 reduction for HU at 50NL+. It seems they are doing everything within their power to hide the fact that the rake is much higher than all other poker sites. The replayer doesn’t show the rake being taken from the pot at any point. The rake structure is buried on their website. They lock threads where people discuss the rake.

By giving no rake reduction for short handed play it creates an environment where everyone sits out in reg games and recreational players are mercilessly bumhunted.

Current rake structure:

https://globalpoker.com/page/rake

Last edited by The Apex; 08-24-2018 at 03:36 PM.
08-24-2018 , 08:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Apex
Yes, they all do afaik. GP only gives .50 reduction for HU at 50NL+. It seems they are doing everything within their power to hide the fact that the rake is much higher than all other poker sites. The replayer doesn’t show the rake being taken from the pot at any point. The rake structure is buried on their website. They lock threads where people discuss the rake.

By giving no rake reduction for short handed play it creates an environment where everyone sits out in reg games and recreational players are mercilessly bumhunted.

Current rake structure:

https://globalpoker.com/page/rake
They are actually lower than bodog at midstakes according to that page.

BooHoo if high stakes have to kick out another dollar, really don't have my sympathy. Such an insignificant amount. Another 5% of a BB to hit cap. literally another cent of rake if playing .10/.20
08-24-2018 , 10:12 PM
Yeah almost all rake caps below 1kNL are higher on Pai Wang Luo network, thanks for pointing that out. I don’t play those games so I never compared. You might still pay similiar or more at those stakes on Global with no rake reduction if you start games or play HU.

When you compare 5/10 and 10/20 rake to Ignition it’s ridic:



5-10

Global: HU $4 3+P$4.50
Bodog: HU $1 3p $2 4-5p $3 6+p $4

10-20

Global: HU $5 3+p $5.50
Bodog: HU $1 3p $2 4-5p $3 6+p $4
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Apex
Yes, they all do afaik. GP only gives .50 reduction for HU at 50NL+. It seems they are doing everything within their power to hide the fact that the rake is much higher than nearly all other poker sites. The replayer doesn’t show the rake being taken from the pot at any point. The rake structure is buried on their website. They lock threads where people discuss the rake.

By giving no rake reduction for short handed play it creates an environment where everyone sits out in reg games and recreational players are mercilessly bumhunted.

Current rake structure:

https://globalpoker.com/page/rake
fmp

Last edited by The Apex; 08-24-2018 at 10:25 PM.
08-30-2018 , 02:48 PM
Code:
POT & NO LIMIT Rake

Blinds		%	2 Player Cap	3+ Player Cap	5+ Player Cap
$0.02/$0.04	5%	$1.00		$1.00		$1.00
$0.05/$0.10	5%	$1.50		$1.50		$1.50
$0.10/$0.20	5%	$2.50		$2.50		$2.50
$0.25/$0.50	5%	$2.50		$3.00		$3.00
$0.50/$1	5%	$2.50		$3.00		$3.00
$1/$2		5%	$2.50		$3.00		$3.00
$2/$4		5%	$3.00		$3.50		$3.50
$3/$6		5%	$3.50		$4.00		$4.00
$5/$10		5%	$4.00		$4.50		$4.50
$10/$20		5%	$5.00		$5.50		$5.50
^^ Rake structure on GP as of now.
https://globalpoker.com/page/rake
12-01-2018 , 07:38 PM
It's expensive to fill up the high stakes seats with fresh deposits for large sums of money.
The softest sites also have the higher rake. It's not that "more rake is better", its that more rake pays for the marketing to get players on the site.
If you look at rake nominally, wow you are paying a lot in rake, but in reality the losing players are the ones losing all that rake.

As a winning player, you are business partners with the site.

Look at ACR who has low rake, and the toughest games.

The question is what is the lineup, then ask what is the rake.

I do agree, that short handed rake should be reduced to have more games runningfor recs(who NET pay the rake) can hop into a 4 or 5 handed game and then as game fills jack up the rake. A game only really runs 6 handed with someone there losing a ton.

Lowering rake for short handed games should be seen as more of a marketing expense to let regs start games, and fish can just hop in then jack the rake up.

Way it is now is just empty tables and a fish has to sit and then get the table filled up and it just looks predatory
12-01-2018 , 08:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ohmyrage
It's expensive to fill up the high stakes seats with fresh deposits for large sums of money.
The softest sites also have the higher rake. It's not that "more rake is better", its that more rake pays for the marketing to get players on the site.
If you look at rake nominally, wow you are paying a lot in rake, but in reality the losing players are the ones losing all that rake.

As a winning player, you are business partners with the site.

Look at ACR who has low rake, and the toughest games.

The question is what is the lineup, then ask what is the rake.

I do agree, that short handed rake should be reduced to have more games runningfor recs(who NET pay the rake) can hop into a 4 or 5 handed game and then as game fills jack up the rake. A game only really runs 6 handed with someone there losing a ton.

Lowering rake for short handed games should be seen as more of a marketing expense to let regs start games, and fish can just hop in then jack the rake up.

Way it is now is just empty tables and a fish has to sit and then get the table filled up and it just looks predatory
Such is life.
12-07-2018 , 01:47 AM
Is totally ridiculous. It's in Globals best interest to lower the rake to a more reasonable amount. A lot of people would be happy to start 6m tables if the rake was reduced. As is, it's just not beatable. The end result of lower HU rake would be more 6m tables running round the clock.

Would you please consider this change? I do not play HU because of it. I know several others on the same boat.
12-07-2018 , 10:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by aumni
Is totally ridiculous. It's in Globals best interest to lower the rake to a more reasonable amount. A lot of people would be happy to start 6m tables if the rake was reduced. As is, it's just not beatable. The end result of lower HU rake would be more 6m tables running round the clock.

Would you please consider this change? I do not play HU because of it. I know several others on the same boat.
I always sit out when it gets below 4.

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11-01-2019 , 10:36 PM
Quote:
At Global Poker we always strive to improve your experience .....

..... We have reduced Ring Game rake caps by 50% for short-handed hands at lower stake levels and even more at short-handed medium and high stakes tables! .....
https://globalpoker.com/rake
11-03-2019 , 08:36 PM
Kewl!

      
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