I've been interested in Global for a little while now while I continue to sit on the sidelines and I'm not alone here. I see a thread about cash player rewards so here's my 2c.

As a high-volume SNG player who plays multiple sites at higher stakes I'd like to offer my perspective here. SNG is not the same as cash, therefore should not be treated like cash. This is the mistake Stars made and as a result many of their SNG formats died and higher stakes don't run, which is a missed opporunity.

With SNG there should definitely be some type of rewards system, even if it is not even remotely competitive with WPN. Why?

- Because regs drive volume in SNG, not rec players. Regs seed games while recreational players typically join them when they are ready to pop. Result of having regulars who seed games? More games, more rake, more profit. Recreational players don't want to wait long times to play.

- SNG regulars as a whole pay significantly more rake per dollar made. Why? Because ROI's of SNG players are typically low even in soft games. This means you are making more off the SNG players compared to cash players per dollar raked. SNG players need more incentive to come play not to mention the risk with the legality of Global.

Note:
- The mistake to be made here is to offer too high of rewards so the games get flooded with regulars from other sites. I'd recommend some type of points leaderboard, those have been forever successful for SNG.
- I'm not including HU SNG when I say this, reward systems are irrelevant in that case, it won't make or break decisions for people to play them. I'm talking about 6 and 9 handed SNG, or if you have any with more players like 18mans.

Inb4 hate from cash players who don't understand how the SNG ecosystem works. Global, if you want to PM me go ahead.

Interesting post. You're definitely right about fish rarely/never sitting alone and instead wait for regs to join the tournament lobby. It drives me crazy. I and another reg will sit at stake that's been dormant for half an hour, and within 5 minutes a game will run. And it's not like they're bumhunting us, they just "don't like to wait", although of course waiting is exactly what they're doing anyway, so ...

For this reason, I honestly wouldn't mind a few more regs at the 22/55/110 games; they'll run more frequently. Maybe I'm shooting myself in the foot with this comment, but oh well. Plenty of games at all the stakes run at peak hours, but before ~3PM and definitely after 4AM EST games die hard.

Rakeback/rewards would be cool and all, but, as you point out, a mass exodus of regs from other sites coming here isn't helpful. Fwiw, though, as the second most prolific SnG player on the site, I'm reasonably happy to maintain the status quo.

Seems relevant to mention the very fast/shallow play of SnGs (and MTTs) here.

1500 chips, 15/30 30/60 60/120 1/2 with 5 minute levels for turbos, 8 minutes for non-turbos. It's considerably shallower than what I remember from Stars or Ignition. Personally, I really like this structure.

Stars was like 10/20 15/30 30/60 50/1 75/150 1/2 if I remember 2011 correctly. They took forever.

+1 to the structure being the best thing since the invention of the smartphone

I play a decent amount of SNGs. I don't want anything to change - any potential rakeback money should just be used for Facebook advertising.

Good Luck !!

There needs to be a reward system for sit and go as well. I started the thread for the cash players and it seems like most just focused on Rake Back. ... Rack Back is just one form of promotion.

I don't think they change the structure. They want it the way it is so Recs have more of a chance. Same as the tourneys. I bubbled a few times trying to keep above 10 BB around the button.

As a SNG reg, I really like the structure too. Also, I know I'm in the minority, but I don't mind the lack of rakeback for us SNG regs, that's what keeps the games soft. Not that I wouldn't want it, but I'm worried it'd attract too many other regs. I'm not at the higher end of the reg spectrum like others in this thread.

That being said, I've paid 2k+ in rake since Sept, so maybe I'm on the fence after all....

There is definitely a balance here and I do not believe implementing a small rewards system is going to break it, but only better it. I totally believe my post supports the best interest of everyone including Global Poker. Games would run more often and be slightly tougher. I'm getting a sense of fear here and I think it's for the wrong reason. For example, 15% RB is not going to send a huge wave of regulars who will start playing 100% of their volume at Global. There are actually some good options out there right now for SNG.

Global could take my advice and likely improve volume considerably, and the current players could have a slight slash in their ROI to get compensated for it. My main point is this, SNG needs regulars to increase volume. The games are obviously uber soft on there right now and any SNG player worth their salt would give up a tiny bit of ROI for more volume. As a regular, what would you rather have...300 games at 5% roi or 400 games at 4% roi + 15% RB? It's a win-win for the site and the players.

I used to play in the SNGs and haven't in a while personally for lots of reasons. So I can't say this would make things better or make things worse. But what I will say is this.

Thank you afterlyfe for putting together suggestions without needing to yell and shout, and in a way a Global Rep can actually show it to their bosses (you know the ones who can actually change things) and maybe something can come of it.

I encourage others to follow this example, remember you need your ideas to appeal to an MBA type, not a micro-stakes grinder who remembers "the days of Moneymaker"

I find this somewhat insulting but I also agree but will not participate ya'll have at it. I tried that as did smitty and others and we are ignored and/or posts or entire threads deleted. No GP rep commented on the work I and smitty did re rake and game structures, and I don't have the mental fortitude to deal with this level of shenanigans and gymnastics. Therefore I will just play and mind my own business and use this forum as a resource but I will no longer be interacting with other members or contributing a damn thing. That's what I've learned form the site, ya'll currently after being around since '03.

ok i cant help myself, the "MBA type" are exactly what are running Amayastars into the ground in the opinion of many, and also the poker awareness part of WPN or however you wanna put it is whats causing it to grow so much. They had a $260 bi milly guaranteed yesterday and it hit 963k, in spite of all they do wrong.