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Retirement story: mail-in $weeps has been unlimited for years. I've sent in 12,000 envelopes. Retirement story: mail-in $weeps has been unlimited for years. I've sent in 12,000 envelopes.

05-31-2020 , 05:50 PM
Hey all,

In light of Global Poker finally updating its $weeps rules to make the mail-in $weeps request too much of a hassle to be worth the time, I thought I'd tell my story, as I've seen a lot of questions on here over the years about what the limit is on how many you can send in. Short answer: there is none, and there hasn't been for years.

A few years ago you could only send in 5 per month. They would credit them one at a time spaced out over several days. Then in late 2018, for some unknown reason, they started crediting them all at once. I found that interesting, so I emailed them to ask if there was a limit on envelopes per month. They didn't really answer, instead just referring me to the $weeps rules. That was answer enough, though. I tried sending in 100 at once that month, and a couple weeks later, $500 hit my account.

From there, it grew exponentially. I started ordering hundreds of envelopes online. I would buy 1000 stamps at a time from the post office. I found that if I focused, I could write 40-50 envelopes per hour. That added up to several hundred every week. I don't have an exact figure on how many I wrote in total, but my best guess is around 12,000.

Global was pretty funny with how they would credit the envelopes. Sometimes they would come in just a week; other times it took over a month. I've had plenty of exchanges with their customer service asking about the status of my envelopes. They would also never get them all at once; they'd credit maybe 75% of a batch at once, then a week or two later they'd get do another 24%, and then the last few would eventually trickle in. On many occasions, they would email me to credit just a single envelope out of a batch of 500. Even more baffling, I would sometimes get two emails on the same day from different customer service reps with different amounts being credited. I have never understood how exactly the process works and why they credit so sporadically, but to Global's credit, they always (eventually) held up their end of the bargain.

The next part of the equation was playing through the credits. You can't just cash them out; a 1x playthrough requirement applies to everything. So, every few weeks, I would grind mid/high stakes NL cash to get through the playthrough. My results at the table over time was positive, although I never kept track of how much. Clearing $5,000 in credits is surprisingly easy when you play high stakes and are competent enough to at least break even over time. I will never understand why Global didn't slap me with the 20x playthrough requirement, as their ToS allows them to do. Every time I got credits I would just play through them once and usually have a cashout requested that same day. I never had a cashout denied. I cashed out nearly $70,000 from Global over the past two years; most of that was envelope money, but some of it was actual profit.

I refrained from posting about this on here because I figured this promotion would be unsustainable if everyone knew about it and started doing it. I can't believe it lasted this long to begin with; back in 2018 they switched to $1 per envelope for like a month, and I have no idea why they didn't (or couldn't legally) go back to that. It was certainly fun while it lasted though.

I'm officially retired from writing envelopes - the new process is just too time-consuming to be worth it for me. But if anyone out there wants a free bankroll or wants to take a shot at the high stakes, I'm sure you could still crank out 200 of these requests in a week and get yourself $1,000 on the site. The writing is hard work, but it's pretty fun to play poker with house money.

I personally know of a couple other high-volume envelope writers, and I imagine there are several others lurking on this forum, staying silent for the same reason I did. I'd be curious to hear if anyone out there wrote more envelopes than me.
05-31-2020 , 06:07 PM
While I am happy for your discipline and grinding out those envelopes, I curse you and your ilk for ruining it for everybody.
05-31-2020 , 07:15 PM
"Hey man, what do you do for a living?''

''I'm a writer''
05-31-2020 , 07:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EnvelopeKing
Hey all,

In light of Global Poker finally updating its $weeps rules to make the mail-in $weeps request too much of a hassle to be worth the time, I thought I'd tell my story, as I've seen a lot of questions on here over the years about what the limit is on how many you can send in. Short answer: there is none, and there hasn't been for years.

A few years ago you could only send in 5 per month. They would credit them one at a time spaced out over several days. Then in late 2018, for some unknown reason, they started crediting them all at once. I found that interesting, so I emailed them to ask if there was a limit on envelopes per month. They didn't really answer, instead just referring me to the $weeps rules. That was answer enough, though. I tried sending in 100 at once that month, and a couple weeks later, $500 hit my account.

From there, it grew exponentially. I started ordering hundreds of envelopes online. I would buy 1000 stamps at a time from the post office. I found that if I focused, I could write 40-50 envelopes per hour. That added up to several hundred every week. I don't have an exact figure on how many I wrote in total, but my best guess is around 12,000.

Global was pretty funny with how they would credit the envelopes. Sometimes they would come in just a week; other times it took over a month. I've had plenty of exchanges with their customer service asking about the status of my envelopes. They would also never get them all at once; they'd credit maybe 75% of a batch at once, then a week or two later they'd get do another 24%, and then the last few would eventually trickle in. On many occasions, they would email me to credit just a single envelope out of a batch of 500. Even more baffling, I would sometimes get two emails on the same day from different customer service reps with different amounts being credited. I have never understood how exactly the process works and why they credit so sporadically, but to Global's credit, they always (eventually) held up their end of the bargain.

The next part of the equation was playing through the credits. You can't just cash them out; a 1x playthrough requirement applies to everything. So, every few weeks, I would grind mid/high stakes NL cash to get through the playthrough. My results at the table over time was positive, although I never kept track of how much. Clearing $5,000 in credits is surprisingly easy when you play high stakes and are competent enough to at least break even over time. I will never understand why Global didn't slap me with the 20x playthrough requirement, as their ToS allows them to do. Every time I got credits I would just play through them once and usually have a cashout requested that same day. I never had a cashout denied. I cashed out nearly $70,000 from Global over the past two years; most of that was envelope money, but some of it was actual profit.

I refrained from posting about this on here because I figured this promotion would be unsustainable if everyone knew about it and started doing it. I can't believe it lasted this long to begin with; back in 2018 they switched to $1 per envelope for like a month, and I have no idea why they didn't (or couldn't legally) go back to that. It was certainly fun while it lasted though.

I'm officially retired from writing envelopes - the new process is just too time-consuming to be worth it for me. But if anyone out there wants a free bankroll or wants to take a shot at the high stakes, I'm sure you could still crank out 200 of these requests in a week and get yourself $1,000 on the site. The writing is hard work, but it's pretty fun to play poker with house money.

I personally know of a couple other high-volume envelope writers, and I imagine there are several others lurking on this forum, staying silent for the same reason I did. I'd be curious to hear if anyone out there wrote more envelopes than me.
So you've seen alot questions over the years but just opened a new account to post this? Hmmm
05-31-2020 , 07:42 PM
I'm glad you posted. I was curious if there would be a cap at a certain amount or if they would ban you at a certain point. I didn't go anywhere near as big as you, but I completely understand what you're saying. Also didn't want to post previously as to not give it away. What a good run, you won the real jackpot.
05-31-2020 , 08:28 PM
hey.. delete this thread
05-31-2020 , 11:58 PM
honestly delete this. why would you ever just openly post an edge like this and ruin it for people. honestly mods pls delete this.
06-01-2020 , 05:55 AM
Ur cool I sent 13000 envelopes
06-01-2020 , 06:59 AM
Bonus whoring 2020 style. Fun post to read, and I did wonder about this when I researched them over a year ago, but I did not really see a practical way to monetize it (I do not have the time, and this was not really the easiest thing to explain for someone else to do - especially if they were not a poker player given the potential playthrough).

I am not surprised at all that some people did this systemically, and there will always be some who find the holes and work their way through them. Here is the story of the guy who figured out how to basically fly at a deep discount by buying pudding cups.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pudding-on-the-ritz/
06-01-2020 , 08:07 AM
delete this.
you're not the king.
06-01-2020 , 12:54 PM
lol the panic running through some people right now....
06-01-2020 , 02:39 PM
lol, this only magnifies what a joke the site is. No rakeback so they can pay out random bottom feeders to sign letters? God forbid they attract people who actually help boost traffic and would frequently deposit.
06-01-2020 , 02:51 PM
the panic in the 1 post accounts and the old accounts chiming in for this thread to go away is ****ing hilarious.
06-01-2020 , 04:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by persianpunisher
lol, this only magnifies what a joke the site is. No rakeback so they can pay out random bottom feeders to sign letters? God forbid they attract people who actually help boost traffic and would frequently deposit.
I am receiving $3.10/wk RB.
06-01-2020 , 04:09 PM
If true, another story about Global's incompetence. Somebody's getting fired.
06-01-2020 , 04:56 PM
this just seems like a huge ecological waste to the world
06-01-2020 , 05:24 PM
Just happy they changed the rules to make it not worth it anymore, now it can finally benefit the normal player!
06-01-2020 , 05:26 PM
They probably going to change to 1 dollar per envelope or/and 20x play requirement next lol.
06-01-2020 , 08:05 PM
if this change affects any of your incomes file for PUA as an independent contractor

i would pay to listen in on your phone call with an adjudicator explaining about what you do for a living..
06-01-2020 , 10:15 PM
Well, that goose is cooked.

      
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