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10-27-2017 , 11:09 AM

#126

big bwalz

self-banned

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 949

what they did unannounced with stts was very shady, and to not derail I feel that every single stt offered on the site is raked too high. Their unannounced, extremely unfriendly player changes as frequently as they make them has significantly offset their weak player pool imo in relation to profitability and appeal to put in volume there. A player pool that has more regs coming in all the time combined with games that are overly raked with no hud, also designed to be very high variance has made me re consider and re structure my play on gp.

10-27-2017 , 02:46 PM

#127

splayaa

old hand

Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 1,546

Quote:

Originally Posted by big bwalz

+1, and it should. In every investment of time and money you should be diligent.

10-29-2017 , 07:59 PM

#128

Rutledge Smitty

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,415

Sick amount of plo games you have going right now. Good thing your rake is low short handed so I'm incentivized to get tables going....

11-01-2017 , 06:37 PM

#129

Matt

banned

Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 20

notice how they dont respond to this ? cant wait for their rake to slowly kill their player pool, oh wait it already has. #rakeitttt #wheretheGPadmins?

11-01-2017 , 06:59 PM

#130

Rutledge Smitty

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,415

Sick no plo games running above 1-2. Maybe if you'd lower the rake shorthanded we'd be playing. Instead we all sit out. Only costing yourselves money

11-02-2017 , 11:59 AM

#131

Rutledge Smitty

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,415

I woke up this morning to play on your site and get some games going, but to my surprise rake was still too high.

11-02-2017 , 03:01 PM

#132

lagtight

banned

Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 10,279

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rutledge Smitty

I woke up this morning to play on your site and get some games going, but to my surprise rake was still too high.

Do you think about anything else in your life besides Global's rake structure? (Other than thinking about people like me who make stoopid responses to your posts.)

11-02-2017 , 03:21 PM

#133

Derp!

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 687

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagtight

Do you think about anything else in your life besides Global's rake structure? (Other than thinking about people like me who make stoopid responses to your posts.)

ON the contrary, I think this is a very polite way of shedding light on the issue. Carry on, Smitty.

11-02-2017 , 03:50 PM

#134

Rutledge Smitty

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,415

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagtight

Do you think about anything else in your life besides Global's rake structure? (Other than thinking about people like me who make stoopid responses to your posts.)

How much are you down on this site? Trying to continue to keep this thread bumped as the rake is destroying the games either through not running or extreme bumhunting.

11-02-2017 , 03:54 PM

#135

flopflop

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 157

bump

11-02-2017 , 09:22 PM

#136

GlobalPoker_Joey

Deactivated Support Account

Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 385

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagtight

Do you think about anything else in your life besides Global's rake structure? (Other than thinking about people like me who make stoopid responses to your posts.)

I have to admit I find his persistence to the cause admirable. There have been some rake reductions recently at limits less than 1/2 so I don't believe apply to the people discussing it ITT

I keep passing on your views on this thread to the business and they are taken on board.

11-02-2017 , 09:24 PM

#137

GlobalPoker_Joey

Deactivated Support Account

Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 385

Quote:

Originally Posted by flopflop

bump

I don't know if a bump is really required four minutes after the previous post. The thread was probably still quite high on the list.

I don't know what an optimal bump strategy is but I feel like bumping after four minutes means you are bumping too often and are probably exploitable.

Waiting at least 12 hours before bumping is probably a solid TAG bump strategy IMO

11-02-2017 , 10:51 PM

#138

flopflop

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 157

you are right that was a pretty weak bump

didnt pay attention

11-02-2017 , 10:58 PM

#139

flopflop

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 157

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlobalPoker_Joey

I have to admit I find his persistence to the cause admirable. There have been some rake reductions recently at limits less than 1/2 so I don't believe apply to the people discussing it ITT

I keep passing on your views on this thread to the business and they are taken on board.

Care to be specific?

11-02-2017 , 11:48 PM

#140

GlobalPoker_Joey

Deactivated Support Account

Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 385

Quote:

Originally Posted by flopflop

Care to be specific?

% 2 Player 3+ Player 5+ Player

$0.02/$0.04 5.00% $1.00 $1.00 $1.00
$0.05/$0.10 5.00% $1.50 $1.50 $1.50
$0.10/$0.20 5.00% $2.50 $2.50 $2.50
$0.25/$0.50 5.00% $2.50 $3.00 $3.00
$0.50/$1 5.00% $2.50 $3.00 $3.00
$1/$2 5.00% $2.50 $3.00 $3.00

Sorry, I don't know how to make this format properly but it reads left to right percentage, 2 player rake 3+ player rake, 5+ player rake.

Last edited by GlobalPoker_Joey; 11-02-2017 at 11:52 PM. Reason: Format Fail

11-03-2017 , 12:05 AM

#141

Derp!

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 687

^^^^
Much appreciated

11-03-2017 , 12:40 AM

#142

flopflop

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 157

Well i guess its better than nothing but this will have very very little if no effect on rake paid in most cases.

will need to be like a 300bb pot at 20nl to pass the new 2.50 rake cap... (even more bb required to make cap at the lower stakes, this is mostly just an illusion of a change, still effectively uncapped rake)

and heads up u still get shafted... 50 cent discount at .25/.50 to 1/2 for pots over 60$... 3 handed no discount... cmon

what if we just quietly give everyone who posts in this thread rakeback?

Last edited by flopflop; 11-03-2017 at 12:50 AM.

11-03-2017 , 02:33 AM

#143

Tizull

banned

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 333

If you aren't going to lower the rake we should at least get some of it back =)

11-03-2017 , 05:59 AM

#144

M.A.H.P.'s

veteran

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,678

in the old days, I don't think they capped rake at all at different limits. that's why my #1 priority at the time was to get up to 200nl or higher, where the rake had far less impact.

I never played/play shorthanded, but I guess some like it. it does seem like a sensible decision to lower the rake for them imo.

11-03-2017 , 08:41 AM

#145

Rutledge Smitty

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,415

Higher than 1/2 rake reduction? Your low stakes games have alot easier time getting off as lower stakes, more players, people less aware that your rake shorthanded is highest in the business etc. Higher stakes it is getting harder to start tables (specifically talking PLO, but have noticed in NL as well to an extent). Lower the rake shorthanded at higher stakes or you'll continue to see a trend of games not willingly being started.

11-03-2017 , 09:42 AM

#146

lagtight

banned

Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 10,279

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rutledge Smitty

How much are you down on this site? Trying to continue to keep this thread bumped as the rake is destroying the games either through not running or extreme bumhunting.

Thank you for confirming that all you think about in life is Global's rake.

11-03-2017 , 09:45 AM

#147

lagtight

banned

Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 10,279

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlobalPoker_Joey

I admire persistence in a great cause for the betterment of all mankind (oops, was that sexist?) such as lower rake. Power to the People!

11-03-2017 , 10:01 AM

#148

Bozo7

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 537

bump

11-03-2017 , 10:21 AM

#149

lagtight

banned

Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 10,279

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bozo7

bump

Please autoban anybody who bumps a thread less than 24 hours after the previous post.

11-03-2017 , 11:23 AM

#150

Rutledge Smitty

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,415

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagtight

Please autoban anybody who bumps a thread less than 24 hours after the previous post.

I don't understand...do you want higher rake? There are many many many new 2+2 accounts posting on this sub-forum who may not even realize compared to other sites how high their rake is. I'm assuming you are one of those people as well. See you at the tables assuming you are out of the micros.

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