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12-09-2017 , 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by big bwalz
no i wasnt you and i are talking about different things aniec. You were trying to spin my post into your argument wanting rb, and i agree i want it too but dont hijack my post. Im confused about all these people that act like theyer happy to be long term losing players and expecting their losing habits to be protected to the max which i think is bs.
My bad, I forgot to quote who I was responding to. I was directing that towards shawnb.
12-09-2017 , 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by mdroz247
My bad, I forgot to quote who I was responding to. I was directing that towards shawnb.
right on thanks for the clarification I appreciate it.
12-09-2017 , 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mdroz247
You seem to be confusing the term reg with the term professional. Just because you are a reg doesn't mean you make a living from it. You just play "regularly". Now this isn't just a poker thing, pretty much every business known to man relies on regulars (recurring customers) for a portion of their overall business. That's why businesses have rewards programs. It could be as simple as buying 10 pizzas and you get your 11th free. Not valuing your customers is just bad business.
I see what you are saying here and agree. I guess I am a "casual reg". I play to kill time and to cash out a few bucks (couple hundred here and there). If there is a RB program I would take it. If not I don't sweat it. If rake is low I will take it. If it's high I don't sweat it.
I replied to the other poster GL going back to ACR because if he is not happy, well then by all means go. Enjoy the 5 hour late reg period.
Actually I don't even know what my whole point is here. On to the felt! Release the hounds!
12-09-2017 , 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by big bwalz
I do want to say thanks to SitnSpin he pmd me and it helped a lot, i need to pm him back again actually. I've been working on my game and been btwn 10-20% roi in the hypers last few days so thats good. I made some adjustments and it helped. I am still concerned about some things about the way the site operates and idk if rb or some kinda rewards is the answer.

If it's all about recs maybe hoodies and caps is a good idea? I remember back in the day on ftp i didnt even know about rb for a while, even when i was doing ironman playing sngs. I just used my points in the store and thought it was awesome to wear ftp stuff to the casino and around town lol. Maybe that'd be a good idea now?

edit - that might be a really good iea actually to keep everyone happy and in line with the rec friendly model, no tickets or cash rewards in the gp store, only gear, clothes etc? That'd keep the mass multibling b/e rb pros out cuz u cant pay backers or bills with hoodies and coffee mugs!
I think I would take swag over rakeback. I still have my Full Tilt baseball cap t-shirt and jacket. Ultimate bet bathrobe, coffee mug, hoodie and card protector, and other junk from all the other sites from years ago.
12-09-2017 , 12:12 PM
How is your rake competitive with other sites?
12-09-2017 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by shawnb4595
I see what you are saying here and agree. I guess I am a "casual reg". I play to kill time and to cash out a few bucks (couple hundred here and there). If there is a RB program I would take it. If not I don't sweat it. If rake is low I will take it. If it's high I don't sweat it.
I replied to the other poster GL going back to ACR because if he is not happy, well then by all means go. Enjoy the 5 hour late reg period.
Actually I don't even know what my whole point is here. On to the felt! Release the hounds!
5 hour late reg doesn't apply to cash games =)
12-09-2017 , 03:12 PM
Their product is better than other sites so they can charge more.
12-09-2017 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Tizull
5 hour late reg doesn't apply to cash games =)
No but you get raked in both, it's just called entry fee in tournaments =)
12-11-2017 , 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by OnMyGrizzy
Their product is better than other sites so they can charge more.
If softer games is the only thing that matters, then perhaps their product is better than other sites. But if we ignore the softness of the games, their product is the worst in the entire history of internet poker.
12-11-2017 , 07:06 AM
LOL
12-11-2017 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by gatton2019
At first I was anti rakeback, but I'm starting to agree with what you said here. The site is getting more and more reg infested. Almost every big tournament and sng winner is on a huge break even stretch, including myself.
A couple solid reg type guys have joined the SnG pool, but a couple others joined that I'd consider to be regfish. I do agree that the reg:fish ratio is slightly worse than it was, but it seems pretty damn good to me still. Just my observation, I could be wrong.

As far as MTTs are concerned, a lot of us were making money hand over fist during the Eagle Cup, and now that those 3+ tournaments aren't around every single day I think fewer people are playing MTTs, fish and regs alike, and as such people's graphs should flatten.

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Originally Posted by gatton2019
Not gonna out your username but I'm about 99.9% sure I know who you are. Your sharkscope is sick dude. Props
Well, my Global handle is right there in my 2p2 location, so it's not a big secret Thanks though!

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Originally Posted by MotownGreek
Others have commented on how the fish are leaving and the games are increasingly becoming just regulars playing, well I'm sure SitandSpin can agree with me here that not all the regulars are winning players. I play many of the same players day in and day out and I've seen some pretty horrific graphs, some people with ROI as low as -20%. Not going to out anyone here but they do exist, and they play at all hours of the day.

With all that said, I wouldn't be opposed to a small rakeback program or even a rewards program. Could be something as simple as play 100 SnGs or see 1,000 flops in x stakes or higher and get $5 sweeps cash, at least it's something for the players.
I snipped some of your post for space, but strongly agree with what I bolded. At the 100+10 and 70+whatever hyper and the 50+5s there are a few guys who play every day and are huge losers. People who break everybody down into regs and fish always forget about regfish.

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Originally Posted by big bwalz
I do want to say thanks to SitnSpin he pmd me and it helped a lot, i need to pm him back again actually. I've been working on my game and been btwn 10-20% roi in the hypers last few days so thats good. I made some adjustments and it helped. I am still concerned about some things about the way the site operates and idk if rb or some kinda rewards is the answer.
Very happy to help

I also greatly appreciate the posts you've made about your mental state/tilt control, etc. I always like to know that I'm not the only person in the world that struggles significantly with these issues.

RB would be great, obv, but I'm not exactly holding my breath. I know Global offers some effective rakeback in the form of freerolls and stuff, but that's never of great use for people that play mid-high stakes, that freeroll table is just taking up space that could be used for a regular game.

Edit: I had Global take away my chat privilege, which has helped with the tilt control (and also to make for a happier environment for other players). I would tilt-chat, somebody would chat back, which inevitably made things worse. I don't know if you tilt-chat as well, but it's an idea. The downside is I can no longer chat with jared and yayoshow and these other guys I battle with for many hours every single day, but it's a net positive for me for sure.

Last edited by SitandSpin; 12-11-2017 at 05:05 PM.
12-13-2017 , 11:04 PM
ive been having such fits with the rng that i literally cried tonight, after staring at the wall for an hour just feeling sick. Had to get beer to even stomach trying to play anymore.
That lasted another 6 games im over this site for today and hopefully ever. It's so much fun lol! And thanks for the chat suggestions but i hardly ever chat

Last edited by big bwalz; 12-13-2017 at 11:15 PM.
12-13-2017 , 11:06 PM
and to sitnspin, now that dalsue is here, and im assuming he brought his stable with him the (your hs ones) stts just got much harder, unless he's been here all along and just decided to post in the subforum. We really need a break from the site with structures or rewards imo.
12-14-2017 , 09:45 AM
Global reps. The rake is still too high and will lead to your site becoming a ghost town. Make me the CEO already so I can fix the incompetence going on regarding your rake structure. Look at any other site in the world...your rake is higher. Even higher than amayastars which is just lol. Do you think you have better software, support, security team, tournament structures, etc than any other site and have the ability to charge the highest rake?
12-14-2017 , 05:18 PM
Global reps? Keep avoiding.
12-14-2017 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by big bwalz
and to sitnspin, now that dalsue is here, and im assuming he brought his stable with him the (your hs ones) stts just got much harder, unless he's been here all along and just decided to post in the subforum. We really need a break from the site with structures or rewards imo.
?

Is he some well-known tournament guy that stakes a bunch of grinders? Anyway, I didn't think this guy was very good, so I ain't worried.
12-14-2017 , 06:54 PM
Apparently he is exactly that. Well, it'll make games fill faster I guess.
12-14-2017 , 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Rutledge Smitty
Global reps? Keep avoiding.
I am sorry that you feel like you are being avoided.

We have made comments in this thread and in many other threads where this has been mentioned.

To clarify, our position has not changed.

This thread has not evolved at all since our last comment in it. You have mentioned you would like lower rake, we have passed your feedback on. The thread has then continued to just be a select group of people continuously asking for lower rake. Thank you we have heard your views and they are being considered. Apart from that, I am not sure what else I can do for you.

We are really glad that you enjoy playing at Global Poker, we love having you. We also love that you are so passionate that you strongly advocate for things that you believe will be an improvement. It shows that you care and we are grateful.

In saying that, if you find our rake structure unreconcilable and don't want to play on our site anymore then we are not forcing you to stay. We want you to stay but want you to do what is right for you.

Of course, the second we have some news about a rake change I will let you all know but until then I am sorry but there isn't much else I can do for you.

With that said, I really don't think there is any benefit in leaving this thread open the point has been made.

If you have any thoughts or comments you want to make then please send me or Joey a message.

Thanks

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