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11-29-2017 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Rutledge Smitty
I've been bumhunting so hard on this site I'm disgusted with myself....

Did some research and was unable to find 1 site in the entire world that has equal to or higher rake than this site.
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So, let's see if I got this right: you're disgusted with yourself while playing on literally the worst poker room for rake IN THE ENTIRE WORLD? Then why aren't you playing somewhere else where will you NEITHER be disgusted with yourself nor paying the highest rake IN THE ENTIRE WORLD?

May I ask if the reason you're playing poker on Global is because your ROI is higher on Global than any other site available to you? If not, then why are you playing here?

Signed,

Just Curious


p.s. Hey Global, lower the rake!
11-29-2017 , 04:36 PM
^don't do drugs kids

I don't know why I'm responding to what is clearly a troll, but here we goooooooo:

Why not play somewhere else? I do play elsewhere as well. Hard to get enough action at non micro stakes without doing so.

My winrate is higher here than other sites hence why I still play here. My winrate is higher because I bumhunt here. My winrate would be higher and I'd be more inclined to reg battle in hopes that a fish joined quicker seeing action if rake was lowered. You see, the less money taken out of a pot = more money won. Try and use the argument that more rake is equal to more fish. No, no its not. More rake means more regs will be predatory towards the fish and not battle it out at the tables.

Math 10-1>10-2. Tried to use whole numbers here to help you out.

Last edited by Rutledge Smitty; 11-29-2017 at 04:45 PM. Reason: forgot who I was speaking to so spelled it out so hopefully you can keep up
11-29-2017 , 08:01 PM
hello yes the rake is too high
11-30-2017 , 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Rutledge Smitty
^don't do drugs kids

I don't know why I'm responding to what is clearly a troll, but here we goooooooo:

Why not play somewhere else? I do play elsewhere as well. Hard to get enough action at non micro stakes without doing so.

My winrate is higher here than other sites hence why I still play here. My winrate is higher because I bumhunt here. My winrate would be higher and I'd be more inclined to reg battle in hopes that a fish joined quicker seeing action if rake was lowered. You see, the less money taken out of a pot = more money won. Try and use the argument that more rake is equal to more fish. No, no its not. More rake means more regs will be predatory towards the fish and not battle it out at the tables.

Math 10-1>10-2. Tried to use whole numbers here to help you out.
1. If I come across as trolling, it's because I'm stupid, not because I'm trolling.

2. I agree with you that the rake is too high, which is why many of my posts in this thread conclude with me asking GP to lower their rake.

3. Let's play .02/.04 PLO sometime!
11-30-2017 , 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
3. Let's play .02/.04 PLO sometime!
SN? I'll see you there.

Rake still high yo
11-30-2017 , 05:16 PM
Can't believe that my first post on 2+2 didn't get the rake lowered.

How about something different? Like a 'half price rake Monday madness' for the first month of the year. Or something to that effect. Compare profits/traffic/new deposits etc. with similar non-promotion times...you get the idea.
This is probably something that sounds good in theory but might be a logistical pain in the ass, not to mention letting the fish know that they are paying rake.
12-01-2017 , 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Rutledge Smitty
SN? I'll see you there.

Rake still high yo
chuckychess
12-01-2017 , 09:25 AM
^Nice, if I see you at the tables I'll join and spew some buyins.

Global, I did some great bum hunting last night. One rec even said "I know you all will sit out once I leave"...he left and all 4 of us sat out. Great for the recs.
12-01-2017 , 10:04 AM
At what limit should I move my roll to ACR? I actually wanna play games when I move up in stakes.
12-01-2017 , 07:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rutledge Smitty
^Nice, if I see you at the tables I'll join and spew some buyins.

Global, I did some great bum hunting last night. One rec even said "I know you all will sit out once I leave"...he left and all 4 of us sat out. Great for the recs.
It is happening on all other sites as well (at least at somewhat high stakes), so nothing new here.

#notsayingthatrakeislowtho
12-03-2017 , 05:31 AM


Rake is the norwooding of poker
12-03-2017 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TheJusticeBringer


Rake is the norwooding of poker
thats just disgusting. One of, if not the best sng players on the site wow.. I absolutely hate playing here but have no other decent options. Seeing that graph makes me wanna not renew my ICMizer software and just give it up. The rng is so nasty and im not willing to deal with it and what its doing to my life and mental health for a measly 1-2% roi, best hope.

You guys realize that that graph basically proof that damn near all the sng players on the site are losing due to the games being massively over raked and having awful structures? I absolutely hate playing here and will recommend everyone avoids it until thel scale back the disgusting massively player unfriendly changes they made last couple months.
12-03-2017 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by big bwalz
thats just disgusting. One of, if not the best sng players on the site wow.. I absolutely hate playing here but have no other decent options. Seeing that graph makes me wanna not renew my ICMizer software and just give it up. The rng is so nasty and im not willing to deal with it and what its doing to my life and mental health for a measly 1-2% roi, best hope.

You guys realize that that graph basically proof that damn near all the sng players on the site are losing due to the games being massively over raked and having awful structures? I absolutely hate playing here and will recommend everyone avoids it until thel scale back the disgusting massively player unfriendly changes they made last couple months.
Please give it up and quit. You hate the RNG, were going to report Global to PayPal, etc yet you keep coming back.
12-03-2017 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by StaYSMacKed
Please give it up and quit. You hate the RNG, were going to report Global to PayPal, etc yet you keep coming back.
thanks for ur useless post well done guy.
12-03-2017 , 07:40 PM
the sng blind structure is putrid...and full ring 50's and 100's are ONLY turbo with 5 min levels, while the 20's have 8 minute levels which makes the awful structure at least somewhat tolerable. not to mention full rake on the turbos too. i grinded the 50's and 100s for a while but until this site shows me that they arent JUST about money money money and greed, ive given up.
12-03-2017 , 11:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheJusticeBringer


Rake is the norwooding of poker
This dam near makes me want to boycott GP, I think we need to take the fight to their FB page where they do the majority of their advertising
12-04-2017 , 01:21 PM
^lol wow...
12-04-2017 , 05:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheJusticeBringer


Rake is the norwooding of poker
What program is this graph from or site?

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12-04-2017 , 06:59 PM
Graph is from sharkscope website
12-04-2017 , 07:22 PM
am I a monkey, or does this graph mean that the site has raked over $30k from the guy, while he has won a total of less than $5k?!
12-04-2017 , 07:32 PM
[QUOTE=TheJusticeBringer;53193713]

No bueno
12-04-2017 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by M.A.H.P.'s
am I a monkey, or does this graph mean that the site has raked over $30k from the guy, while he has won a total of less than $5k?!
Correct, sickening.
12-05-2017 , 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Bozo7
Correct, sickening.
so he is playing sng? this surely isn't the rake of a cash player at 200nl and above. I think the guy needs to move up...?

isn't their sng rake just the normal? its 10%, right?

Last edited by M.A.H.P.'s; 12-05-2017 at 04:32 AM.
12-05-2017 , 05:11 AM
he's one of the top few, if not the best sng player on the site. he plays everything, hypers, turbos and regular speeds, maybe 20$ bi and up to the biggest games which are currently $100+10. The hypers are raked at a whopping 7%. I've not got a paid sharkscope sub so I cant look everybody up or filter players but I think thats about the best a sng player can hope to achieve on global is the above posted graph, at least the way the games are structured and raked now. Basically its extremely hard to beat over a large sample, and I think I may be better off playing on WPN and getting rb, not quite sure still figuring things out.

edit - hypers are 7% rake for 6 and 9 mans, turbs and reg speed sngs are 10% rake for 6 and 9 mans. And the blind structures are the worst I think of any site in the world. Basically I feel like i work for the site, since they changed the sng structures I rake 2-5x what I profit. Im working on my game tho hopefully I can improve my results, but the above graph and some other things have me pretty concerned about sngs on gp in general.
12-05-2017 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Rutledge Smitty
I've been bumhunting so hard on this site I'm disgusted with myself. The other day it was 3 regs and I all sitting out at a 5/10 plo table. Fish joined and boom all 4 of us immediately sit in. Will continue not paying rake against regs and hope other regs do the same. We will create the ultimate bumhunter site.

Did some research and was unable to find 1 site in the entire world that has equal to or higher rake than this site.

Also, your rake structure is so well buried on your site that you must also be disgusted with yourselves.
Grunching this post, but that's standard bumhunt behavior anywhere regardless of rake, amiright? I've been in that situation infinite times on PokerStars.

Quote:
Originally Posted by big bwalz
thats just disgusting. One of, if not the best sng players on the site wow.. I absolutely hate playing here but have no other decent options. Seeing that graph makes me wanna not renew my ICMizer software and just give it up. The rng is so nasty and im not willing to deal with it and what its doing to my life and mental health for a measly 1-2% roi, best hope.

You guys realize that that graph basically proof that damn near all the sng players on the site are losing due to the games being massively over raked and having awful structures? I absolutely hate playing here and will recommend everyone avoids it until thel scale back the disgusting massively player unfriendly changes they made last couple months.
Me and many other players are having a ROI significantly higher than 1 or 2 percent. Jared is an excellent player but has a couple of leaks IMO. Also he pretty much only plays the 100s and 50s, and doesn't play the 20s, which are often 1 decent player and 8 fish. This game is just so easy to beat, I'm sorry

I don't know what the massive deal is between a 10% rake and a 9% which is standard on the other sites on which I've played. The softer comp seems to more than make up for it.

I've sharkscope'd like every single reg and fish and there are about 10-15 people that have >5% ROI (at games 20+2 and up), although some haven't yet hit a very big sample.

Last edited by SitandSpin; 12-05-2017 at 03:29 PM.

      
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