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11-21-2017 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Stroggos_nz
im working my way up to the 10/20 games. I was going to battle regs there if they were interested, but now the rake is $5.50 i will not give action. It seems too high for any hu reg battling to take place for me. Would really appreciate a fair rake structure for hu games, and i think the site would possibly not lose money from it as very few people play hu at 6max tables as it is, but a lower rake structure would increase action for hu and potentially make the site more money.


if you think about it this way:

If a fish/weak player joins a 10/20 game where a reg is sitting, the table will get filled quite fast. There you cannot have reg vs fish action hu.
If reg sits with another reg at a 10/20 game, then one will almost certainly sit out, as the rake is too high for hu.

Therefore, no money is made with such high rake for hu.
Therefore, reduce the rake for hu and people will battle at 10/20 games.
It also brings railbirds and competition/ego battling!

QED.
Still holds true...wonder why people are sitting out at tables, not starting them as much, hit and running and extreme bumhunting is going on.
11-21-2017 , 06:11 PM
Bump. Rake is absurd.
11-21-2017 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Rutledge Smitty
Rake is now posted on the site at least. Can a rep please re-explain to us how their rake is competitive? Didn't quite follow the logic on the last explanation.
Do you have a link to where they posted it? I am looking and can't seem to find it.
11-21-2017 , 06:52 PM
It is a link within their FAQ. Just search for rake and one of those words lets you click on it to find the breakdown. They did a goodjob at hiding it.
11-22-2017 , 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Rutledge Smitty
It is a link within their FAQ. Just search for rake and one of those words lets you click on it to find the breakdown. They did a goodjob at hiding it.
Yeah I looked in the FAQ and didn't see it the first time. Really looked the second time and found it. I have included the link so others can find it more easily.

https://globalpoker.com/page/rake
11-22-2017 , 12:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by splayaa
Yeah I looked in the FAQ and didn't see it the first time. Really looked the second time and found it. I have included the link so others can find it more easily.

https://globalpoker.com/page/rake
Love how they have a column for 3+ players & 5 + players even though rake is the exact same. They're proud to show that reduced rake of 50 cents for HU though!
11-22-2017 , 05:46 AM
LOL OMFG I didn't realize hu rake was so damn much. It's like dicksucking crackheads are running this place. Just wow, the ****tards are running a poker site HUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
11-22-2017 , 08:42 AM
It's like they don't even care!
11-22-2017 , 09:23 AM
They obviously don't care considering how little attention they even showed looking at the 3+/5+ player rake both being listed. Global reps what does management say when you bring player's concerns regarding rake to their attention? You have the highest rake of any site that I'm aware of and it's not even close. Your HU rake is still a slap in the face and your overall cap on the amount taken out is thievery.
11-22-2017 , 09:25 AM
When they listed the new rake cap of $1 at NL4 it became evident we are dealing with muppets.
11-22-2017 , 11:01 AM
That rake for 50 NL / PLO is ABSURD.
11-22-2017 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Tizull
That rake for 50 NL / PLO is ABSURD.
Rake for 50NL (4 handed) is same as ignition.

Rake for 50NL (5 handed) is same as both ignition and ACR.

Rake for 50NL (6 handed) is same as ACR, better than ignition.

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Their rake for 2 and 3 handed is obviously higher than ACR and Ignition at 50NL.

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Global's rake appears to be worse than competitors' at higher stakes (2/4 and above), as well as short-handed (2 and 3 handed) at all stakes.

5 and 6 handed rake at all stakes $1/$2 and below are similar to competing sites

Edit: Just for clarification, the site's rake percentage (percentage of the pot that is raked) is the same as other competing sites. It is the amount capped that is different in comparison to competing sites

Last edited by sam1chips; 11-22-2017 at 11:35 AM.
11-22-2017 , 02:18 PM
^what? The rake cap is one of the key components to this...Their rake is higher than competing sites.
11-22-2017 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Rutledge Smitty
^what? The rake cap is one of the key components to this
Yes, for sure. I was just clarifying. The 5% rake that GP takes seems to be in line with the site's competitors. The difference is that the cap of total possible rake taken per hand is higher.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rutledge Smitty
Their rake is higher than competing sites.
In 2-3 handed games? Yes, rake cap (and thus, rake) is higher than competing sites.

In stakes $2/$4 and higher? Yes, rake is higher than competing sites.

In 4-6 handed tables, in stakes $1/$2 and lower? Rake is comparable/equal to competing sites.

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It's also worth noting that the cap is more relevant in higher stakes than lower stakes, as more hands are going to reach the cap in these games.

For example, it will take a 300 BB pot at $0.05/$0.10 to reach the cap, while it will take a 30 BB pot at $1/$2 to reach the cap.

Last edited by sam1chips; 11-22-2017 at 03:21 PM.
11-22-2017 , 04:37 PM
Fair point. I'm talking 2/4 and above selfishly. But I hear you
11-23-2017 , 06:15 PM
Rake is very high still
11-24-2017 , 10:16 PM
I don't know. Rake does not bother me, I really don't even pay attention. As long as I'm withdrawing cash and not depositing I am happy.
11-25-2017 , 09:15 AM
^not logical, but ok.
11-28-2017 , 05:32 PM
Reminder that this site has the highest rake of any poker site in the US and probably World (to my knowledge).
11-28-2017 , 07:26 PM
Unfortunately GP doesn't have competition in US. At least not in regulated states. So they can pretty much do whatever they want. NL10-NL20 rake cap is huge, but really who cares. I mean there are maybe 5% of players there who can beat it anyways and these players will go higher in stakes regardless. So as DNegs said, higher rake better for recs.

GP, please make rake less for $2-$4 until I get there.
11-29-2017 , 12:31 AM
^have no idea what you are talking about, but seems like you're in agreement the rake is too high and is detrimental.
11-29-2017 , 02:42 AM
I am glad we are on the same page
11-29-2017 , 11:43 AM
I've been bumhunting so hard on this site I'm disgusted with myself. The other day it was 3 regs and I all sitting out at a 5/10 plo table. Fish joined and boom all 4 of us immediately sit in. Will continue not paying rake against regs and hope other regs do the same. We will create the ultimate bumhunter site.

Did some research and was unable to find 1 site in the entire world that has equal to or higher rake than this site.

Also, your rake structure is so well buried on your site that you must also be disgusted with yourselves.
11-29-2017 , 12:00 PM
Why would you wanna play against other regs? ^_^
11-29-2017 , 12:56 PM
^^ There's a lot of fishy to weakish regs on all sites and you learn their tendencies to the point where they are as good as fish in a lot of spots especially if they play lots of tables.

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Originally Posted by niosocket
Unfortunately GP doesn't have competition in US. At least not in regulated states. So they can pretty much do whatever they want. NL10-NL20 rake cap is huge, but really who cares. I mean there are maybe 5% of players there who can beat it anyways and these players will go higher in stakes regardless. So as DNegs said, higher rake better for recs.

GP, please make rake less for $2-$4 until I get there.
Ya hopefully the regulated states status will change. Right now the atmosphere in the regulated states is kind of a joke with **** software, no player pool to speek of, it's just amature hour. Once it gets bigger tho this site is gonna be hurting imo.

      
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