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11-15-2017 , 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Rutledge Smitty
Didn't realize you could do math to figure out rake nor that it would take a long time to manually add all your hands together. Also didn't realize this would be difficult. Good insight as always.
an easier way: compare hu rake from sites that are tracked, measure for particular pot sizes. and calculate with the increased dollar cap. It's not that hard really so long as you put volume on other sites you can do a comparitive analysis.
11-15-2017 , 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by OnMyGrizzy
I'm just imagining a guy like Stroggoz has much better things to do with his time... Perhaps he would like to confirm if he actually did that or whether he is using software.
I don't have better things to do with my time, calculating the rake for hu on this site is a very important factor on whether i'm going to play it.
11-15-2017 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by M.A.H.P.'s
he is a jerk in all threads, but I feel like he has a soft spot inside.

bump for lower rake.
It's hard reading idiots spewing non-sense with join dates in 2017 who are oblivious to many things. I'm all good for coming together and keeping the pressure on to lower rake. Confirmed also havbe a soft spot on the inside and realize a lot of these idiots help me pay the bills so will be nicer.
11-15-2017 , 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Rutledge Smitty
It's hard reading idiots spewing non-sense with join dates in 2017 who are oblivious to many things. I'm all good for coming together and keeping the pressure on to lower rake. Confirmed also havbe a soft spot on the inside and realize a lot of these idiots help me pay the bills so will be nicer.
And I personally would love to see nothing more than a community being built here that can debate topics and not have it devolve into name calling and bickering. So to that I look forward to an informative intelligent conversation that encourages Global to lower the rake.
11-15-2017 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by splayaa
And I personally would love to see nothing more than a community being built here that can debate topics and not have it devolve into name calling and bickering. So to that I look forward to an informative intelligent conversation that encourages Global to lower the rake.
What, no name calling and bickering? Your advice will take all the fun out of this thread!

All seriousness aside (as the late, great Steve Allen used to say), I think maybe Global will take this thread more seriously if nitwits like myself produce good arguments for lowering the rake rather than bumping the thread every twenty minutes without posting meaningful content.

The optimal argument for lower rake will be one that can demonstrate that it is in Global's best interest to lower the rake. If Global thinks that they can maximize profit by keeping the rake high, then they'd be idiots (from a business point of view) to lower the rake.

If nothing else, my last paragraph above shows that I have a firm grasp of the obvious.

Thank you and have a blessed day.
11-15-2017 , 03:55 PM
High rakes means more money for global and less for the players. I don't know what is so hard to understand about that. A small site should be trying to grow its player base, not suck it dry. I have already noticed a drop in midstakes traffic in the few months I've been here.

I would also make an argument in favor of a table cap. Something like 4-6. Players playing 10+ tables are just as bad as high rake for the overall economy, especially given it is such a small site to begin with.
11-16-2017 , 07:28 PM
Rake is too high.
11-17-2017 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Tizull
Rake is too high.
As I noted in my previous post, I'm not sure that merely asserting that "rake is too high" over over again does a whole lot to help accomplish the goal of actually having GP lower their rake. It's kind of the adult equivalent of a kid holding his breath until his face turns blue to try to get his parents to buy him a pony. (Like any kid these days wants a pony.)
11-17-2017 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by YGOchamp
You guys clearly aren't Dneg fans

#MORERAKEISBETTER
LMAO!
11-17-2017 , 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
As I noted in my previous post, I'm not sure that merely asserting that "rake is too high" over over again does a whole lot to help accomplish the goal of actually having GP lower their rake. It's kind of the adult equivalent of a kid holding his breath until his face turns blue to try to get his parents to buy him a pony. (Like any kid these days wants a pony.)
This post added less to the conversation than rake is too high. Also rake is still too high
11-17-2017 , 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Rutledge Smitty
This post added less to the conversation than rake is too high.
Good point. I won't post ITT any more. After all, the current strategem of bumping the thread every few minutes is working out so well, why bother?
11-17-2017 , 09:27 AM
I mean I can keep spewing the same points I have, but global doesn't give a ****. So instead I want to keep this thread on the first page so that new people to this site such as yourself understand how high global's rake is. The point is obvious why this high rake is detrimental to a growing site. Management obviously knows this and doesn't care at this point. idk what more you want added, debating why high rake is bad or would you like to throw some more pointless analogies around? Just last night I was apart of 4 tables breaking within 5 minutes of getting 4 handed because no one will play short handed against other decent regs with this rake.

Last edited by Rutledge Smitty; 11-17-2017 at 09:27 AM. Reason: Also global still doesn't include their rake on their website. sad
11-17-2017 , 09:10 PM
I think it's great you guys keep on telling them rake it too high. That way me and others know what they are getting into before we deposit. I woulda probably thrown some money on by now but rake is too high all around in online poker so no point in throwing money on this site. Might as well play else where for the time being. If they change the rake I'll probably join the player pool.
11-17-2017 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by uradoodooface
I think it's great you guys keep on telling them rake it too high. That way me and others know what they are getting into before we deposit. I woulda probably thrown some money on by now but rake is too high all around in online poker so no point in throwing money on this site. Might as well play else where for the time being. If they change the rake I'll probably join the player pool.
+1. Thank you for jumping in with this comment as well. Stories like these are the exact thing Global reps can take to their bosses who actually determine rake structures.
11-19-2017 , 09:56 AM
Clearly the admins on here do not care about how much of a scam their rake is on the site, maybe if we spam the GP Fb page (where they get 90% of their customers, aka rake feeders) they will start to get it. They dont post it on their site, and no one seems to bring it up in their FB posts that get thousands of likes and comments? do yourself a favor and let them know this is not acceptable for them to make a living on increasing our rake.
11-19-2017 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Rutledge Smitty
I mean I can keep spewing the same points I have, but global doesn't give a ****. So instead I want to keep this thread on the first page so that new people to this site such as yourself understand how high global's rake is. The point is obvious why this high rake is detrimental to a growing site. Management obviously knows this and doesn't care at this point. idk what more you want added, debating why high rake is bad or would you like to throw some more pointless analogies around? Just last night I was apart of 4 tables breaking within 5 minutes of getting 4 handed because no one will play short handed against other decent regs with this rake.
+1

Rake is too high.
11-19-2017 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by crixusthebeast
Clearly the admins on here do not care about how much of a scam their rake is on the site, maybe if we spam the GP Fb page (where they get 90% of their customers, aka rake feeders) they will start to get it. They dont post it on their site, and no one seems to bring it up in their FB posts that get thousands of likes and comments? do yourself a favor and let them know this is not acceptable for them to make a living on increasing our rake.
Why stay if you are unhappy with the rake?
11-19-2017 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by crixusthebeast
Clearly the admins on here do not care about how much of a scam their rake is on the site, maybe if we spam the GP Fb page (where they get 90% of their customers, aka rake feeders) they will start to get it. They dont post it on their site, and no one seems to bring it up in their FB posts that get thousands of likes and comments? do yourself a favor and let them know this is not acceptable for them to make a living on increasing our rake.
I'd suggest reading the TOS before you go spamming their fb page. Some sites have clauses in their TOS that they will close your your acct, perma ban you and keep the funds for doing that kind of thing, Betonline is one I think that has it in their TOS.

But I agree the rake is too high.
11-19-2017 , 03:16 PM
A site can charge as much rake as players are willing to play. Given the model they have for US players, surprised they don't charge more.
11-19-2017 , 03:55 PM
If only we had an active thread where rake was being discussed... oh wait...

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...hread-1668787/
11-19-2017 , 03:57 PM
Probably in their best interest to make as much $$$ as possible before their house of cards collapses.
11-19-2017 , 06:31 PM
Call 911 robbery in progress.

4 handed table with regs breaks like almost all the time within a few hands.

Rake is way too high on the site.
11-20-2017 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by berya
Call 911 robbery in progress.

4 handed table with regs breaks like almost all the time within a few hands.

Rake is way too high on the site.
Yup all day. I know I'm leaving in that situation for sure

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11-21-2017 , 06:32 AM
Rakeback requested even if small %.
11-21-2017 , 04:54 PM
Rake is now posted on the site at least. Can a rep please re-explain to us how their rake is competitive? Didn't quite follow the logic on the last explanation.

      
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