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03-24-2019 , 08:35 PM
To help Global out...

xxxxx

plays 25/50 PLO

likely bot. Running Sagittarius or something similar based on the play

Last edited by GlobalPokerCSKimbr; 03-25-2019 at 08:39 PM. Reason: naming and shaming not allowed
03-24-2019 , 09:02 PM
Also xxxxx

playing a ton of tables across multiple games and mutiple levels right now and for hours at a time.

Is it possible...yes

Is he human...no

Quote:
Originally Posted by orthoStice
To help Global out...

xxxxx

plays 25/50 PLO

likely bot. Running Sagittarius or something similar based on the play

Last edited by GlobalPokerCSKimbr; 03-25-2019 at 08:39 PM. Reason: naming and shaming not allowed
03-24-2019 , 11:39 PM
funny....i never play PLO but i went and had a look

i didn't see no xxxx, but i saw a guy who is always at the Hold Em tables

only long sessions i play is when i'm drinking, and i can go all night....but just single tabling

blows my mind how some people seem to always be there, doing their thing....i try to take it serious, but i will never be on that level....not even close

Last edited by GlobalPokerCSKimbr; 03-25-2019 at 08:40 PM. Reason: naming and shaming not allowed
03-25-2019 , 07:48 AM
So your evidence for a bot is playing lots of tables and lots of hours? In before this thread is locked.
03-25-2019 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Rutledge Smitty
So your evidence for a bot is playing lots of tables and lots of hours? In before this thread is locked.
Obviously that's not all of it. But I don't need to make my case to you.

And Global can look pretty simply to see someone playing a 12 hour session, across multiple game, multiple tables, varying stakes, with similar VPIP and never once sitting out to take a piss. Like 8 days in a row.

Can it be done ? Sure. But given the 1.5 million dollar problem that Stars had at the same stakes, shouldn't it be something worth talking about or investigating ? I think so.

Why don't you ?
03-25-2019 , 12:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by orthoStice
Obviously that's not all of it. But I don't need to make my case to you.

And Global can look pretty simply to see someone playing a 12 hour session, across multiple game, multiple tables, varying stakes, with similar VPIP and never once sitting out to take a piss. Like 8 days in a row.

Can it be done ? Sure. But given the 1.5 million dollar problem that Stars had at the same stakes, shouldn't it be something worth talking about or investigating ? I think so.

Why don't you ?
Are you watching these accounts 12 hours straight for "like" 8 days straight? How do you know their VPIP? For sure it's a problem worth investigating, but you are not backing up your claims and simply throwing sns out there as bots with no evidence is counter-productive.
03-25-2019 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Rutledge Smitty
is counter-productive.
to what ?

counter-productive to what ?

You seem very invested into suggesting that bots are not a potential problem.

I didn't throw those two names out lightly. And I think global would appreciate some help in maintaining integrity of the site.

What your motivation ?
03-25-2019 , 01:24 PM
The motivation is that smart people want online poker to have a culture where you need to bring substantive evidence forward to accuse someone of being a bot.

Share relevant data if you have anything besides "long sessions and multiple gametypes," and stop witch-hunting. This thread is ridiculous and there's nobody else to blame but yourself.
03-25-2019 , 01:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duncelanas
The motivation is that smart people want online poker to have a culture where you need to bring substantive evidence forward to accuse someone of being a bot.

Share relevant data if you have anything besides "long sessions and multiple gametypes," and stop witch-hunting. This thread is ridiculous and there's nobody else to blame but yourself.
O KAY
03-25-2019 , 01:54 PM
My motivation is to provide some data other than saying things like they play for 12 hours straight, same vpip, etc. By saying this you are saying you watched them play for 12 hours a day for 8 days. So guess what, if you as a human can do that than I'm sure they can bud. My motivation is that randomly accusing people with no evidence drags their name through the mud for no reason. Similar idiots had my account locked for a week while they investigated me because I was reported for being a bot.
03-25-2019 , 02:17 PM
To be fair, it's impossible for us to provide data because the site doesn't allow us access to the hands.

Some transparency from GP would be nice
03-25-2019 , 02:50 PM
there is a ton of bots on all online poker sites. There is nothing that can be done about removing them because what the people do that make the bots also play some of the time so it can't be detected. You have to figure out a way to beat them. I did figure out a way to beat them since I couldn't have them removed (took me around a year to figure it out). What they do is break away from me at the same time on a table and it will be 3 to 4 of them that sit out at the same time and leave. I would just follow them to an ew table. So there is a way to beat them. It is not like your playing libratus. They are beatable but you gotta put your big boy pants and figure it out on your own. Or play live.
03-25-2019 , 04:52 PM
I'm xxxx on global and I'm not a bot lol

Last edited by GlobalPokerCSKimbr; 03-25-2019 at 08:41 PM. Reason: naming and shaming not allowed
03-25-2019 , 05:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by orthoStice
But given the 1.5 million dollar problem that Stars had at the same stakes, shouldn't it be something worth talking about or investigating ?
Of course it's worth investigating, but that doesn't require a thread; you should be emailing the site.

It might also be worth discussing, but that's rather difficult when your response to anyone asking for evidence is to question their motivations.

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Originally Posted by iburydoscocaroaches
there is a ton of bots on all online poker sites. There is nothing that can be done about removing them because what the people do that make the bots also play some of the time so it can't be detected. You have to figure out a way to beat them. I did figure out a way to beat them since I couldn't have them removed (took me around a year to figure it out). What they do is break away from me at the same time on a table and it will be 3 to 4 of them that sit out at the same time and leave. I would just follow them to an ew table. So there is a way to beat them. It is not like your playing libratus. They are beatable but you gotta put your big boy pants and figure it out on your own. Or play live.
This post is quite the mix of truth and silliness. Yes, some bots have been able to evade detection, but that doesn't mean that nothing can be done about removing all bots. Your advice to learn to beat them is reasonable, but there's no reason not to report them as well.
03-25-2019 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Of course it's worth investigating, but that doesn't require a thread; you should be emailing the site.

It might also be worth discussing, but that's rather difficult when your response to anyone asking for evidence is to question their motivations.


This post is quite the mix of truth and silliness. Yes, some bots have been able to evade detection, but that doesn't mean that nothing can be done about removing all bots. Your advice to learn to beat them is reasonable, but there's no reason not to report them as well.
Its silly for a silly person to say what I am saying is silly. Bobo common sense would say I reported them. Common sense would know the sites refused to remove them. Then common sense would be to accept the fact the sites wont remove them and start figuring out a strategy to destroy them. Common sense wold tell me when you name yourself after bobo from finding big foot your a silly goose.
03-25-2019 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mattb7755
I'm xxxx on global and I'm not a bot lol
Ya and xxxxx is not a bot I played vs him. You shouldn't be calling out people that aren't bots unless you know for sure.

Last edited by GlobalPokerCSKimbr; 03-25-2019 at 08:41 PM.
03-25-2019 , 06:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by iburydoscocaroaches
Its silly for a silly person to say what I am saying is silly. Bobo common sense would say I reported them. Common sense would know the sites refused to remove them. Then common sense would be to accept the fact the sites wont remove them and start figuring out a strategy to destroy them.
All fair enough, but what you did in your situation isn't especially relevant. You said "There is nothing that can be done about removing them because what the people do that make the bots also play some of the time so it can't be detected.", which isn't true. Learning to beat the bots is a good idea, but suggesting that they can't be removed implies it's pointless to report them, which isn't especially helpful.

Quote:
Originally Posted by iburydoscocaroaches
Common sense wold tell me when you name yourself after bobo from finding big foot your a silly goose.
I, um, wait, what?
03-25-2019 , 08:38 PM
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