It's a game man - don't be so serious!

1. It's not just a game to me, it's my livelihood

2. ****ty behavior is allowed in games because they're "just games"?

Slowrolling people you don't know in live games is about as low as it gets without outright cheating. I mean, beyond all the sportsmanship stuff, you don't know how much the money might mean to them.

You're ****ing with people's emotions and possibly financial security in a classless way simply because you get a kick out of it. GTFO.

Nobody with any sense should have so much money at a poker table that losing it would be a big deal. I would think that playing with more than 5% of one's bankroll at the table would be indicative of poor financial stewardship.

Two opinions I'd like to offer:

1. Slowrolling is extremely rude.

2. Don't let rude people get under your skin.

Definitely would not consider slow rolling "outright cheating." At the end of the day, you control your emotions. You can't control someone slowrolling, but you have the option to let it affect you or not...

Excuse me for my noobness, and I ask in the interest of not offending players in the future, but slowrolling is referring to calls with the nuts, right? Not all-in shoves, when the villain will be the last to act (ie. Hollywooding)?

i think you're thinking of slowplaying. in online poker it would be like having your opponent going all in in a HU pot and tanking forever when you have the nuts.

in live the same can happen but its more often at showdown where your opponent shows their hand and you just kind of sit there and not flip your cards for a long period of time when you have them beat. i've also gotten all in on the flop, told the guy i was all in with i had a set, he responds, "that's good" then flips a better hand when nothing changes on the river.

I've never heard anybody claim that slowrolling was cheating.

+1

I mean, I completely agree, but sometimes people "with no sense" or no bankroll management play poker, and they deserve the same sportsmanship as everybody else ...


You misread my post. I said "as low as it gets WITHOUT outright cheating".

You're right that the only thing over which I have control is my emotional reaction to slowrolling. Emotional weakness is a big flaw of mine. But with that said, I don't see how that invalidates my point at all.

Yeah, it generally only refers to situations where somebody has the nuts on the river and takes forever to call an all-in bet, or very similar situations to this.

Hollywooding in the middle of a hand, or even when you have air on the river and are going to fold but want to rep some tough fold, have strategic game-play ramifications and are a different thing.

In chess tournaments, it is customary to shake hands with your opponent before (and after) the game; customary to the point where everybody does it every game every time. Not shaking your opponents hand "for the lulz" or "to tilt him", is seen as classless behavior, even though it's perfectly legal. Two of the top players in the world, Vladimir Kramnik and Veselin Topalov, have a long history of not shaking hands when they play each other, and it's like this super remarkable thing in the chess world.

I think slowrolling in poker is a worse version of not shaking hands in chess tournaments.

I mean, you have no idea how much this money means to someone. It seems rather cruel to slowroll somebody who very well may be playing on their case money. Degens don't deserve this just because they're degens.

As a tournament chessplayer for over thirty years (I "retired" from tournament chess in 2009, but still play online virtually every day), I can vouch for the fact that it is considered exceptionally rude to not shake the hand of your opponent both before and after the game.

I agree that slowrolling is even worse. Everyone who is playing by the rules deserves to be respected at all times. There is no excuse for rudeness.

You should probably consider finding a way to get a handle on your emotions if a slowroll not only tilts you this much as the table, but then leads you to do foolish things like your tirade on this forum. Especially since you're now likely to see a lot more slowrolling given that you've shown everyone how much it tilts you.

lol @ Elo handling his emotions. There is a reason he is on his 80th different 2p2 handle.

+1

The real question is who is Serpaetetra? Hes come out of nowhere the past month or so to dethrone Jared.

Super user? Only person in top 5 who isn't in top 20 of games played.

Looks like 17th in games played to me.

I suck at looking.

Serpae has always played solid form what I've seen. Jared's dethrone has been a long time coming. Jared has obvious leaks that are very costly. His sheer volume makes up for it.

lmao he dedicated his life to this and only makes maybe 30k a year, and that will go down now as GP is catering to PokerNews podcasts etc drawing in more regs, dude acts cocky too I love realizing I can make more than him working half the time and having an easy job where i can play poker 20+ hours a week too.

its only april bro

If we could make it worth my while I'd propbet that I finish on top of sharkscope's leaderboard for SnGs for the entire year. I could play 3x as much, but I've been getting into spewing hard in cash games and stuff. I ain't shook.

he's ... alright

lol, this is quite dumb for a few different reasons

<--- not a superuser, just running good

U are dumb as ****. I'm so sick of reading ur crybaby, B****boy posts. I'm sure we're playing the same tables. Whats ur username on GP? I want a piece of u. If u can't post ur SN u aren't about ****.