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Please make hand histories easier to access!! Please make hand histories easier to access!!

04-28-2022 , 05:47 AM
I have no luck trying to review my play on Global, the hand history tab is difficult to use. Obviously I like how other players are made anonymous to prevent data mining, however it should not be so difficult to review one's own play.

A better search feature that enables us to search by win/loss amounts would be great, especially if we could search an entire day or even an hour, not 15 minute segments.

Anyone else have some tips to get through Global's hand history database?
04-28-2022 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Jr0d
I have no luck trying to review my play on Global, the hand history tab is difficult to use. Obviously I like how other players are made anonymous to prevent data mining, however it should not be so difficult to review one's own play.

A better search feature that enables us to search by win/loss amounts would be great, especially if we could search an entire day or even an hour, not 15 minute segments.

Anyone else have some tips to get through Global's hand history database?


This site is for recreational purposes.
You know that.
Deal with it.
Never going to be PokerStars.
04-28-2022 , 11:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jr0d
I have no luck trying to review my play on Global, the hand history tab is difficult to use. Obviously I like how other players are made anonymous to prevent data mining, however it should not be so difficult to review one's own play.

A better search feature that enables us to search by win/loss amounts would be great, especially if we could search an entire day or even an hour, not 15 minute segments.

Anyone else have some tips to get through Global's hand history database?
Every time I have tried, I receive an error message. Their hand history is a joke. Good luck. The comment above is correct.
04-28-2022 , 03:04 PM
I have better luck when I click on the the "Show only this table" feature. I can usually find all the hands I played.

As a compromise with Global I tend to write down a note on the table name and time of a hand I want to look back at later.
04-30-2022 , 11:28 PM
You can record your sessions using loom or something similar. It's time intensive, but better than nothing.
05-19-2022 , 08:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Relyhk
I have better luck when I click on the the "Show only this table" feature. I can usually find all the hands I played.

As a compromise with Global I tend to write down a note on the table name and time of a hand I want to look back at later.
I wanted to follow up on this response from me.

On April 24th I had a losing session that made me want to quit playing cash games and go back to tournaments. I prefer tournaments and am better at them but cash games are so much easier for a working parent to participate in because I can play for 10 minutes or I can play for hours, depending on my circumstances. With tournaments you have to block out your whole evening.

Yesterday I made up my mind to finally go back and review that session. I didn't record it and I'd thrown away my notes so I decided to scroll through all of the hand histories. At first I wanted to review everything so I was clicking "next hand" pretty quickly (most hands are folds and/or easy decisions after all). Every so often the server would disconnect me and I'd have to go find where I'd left off. Then, the "next hand" button would go grey after every couple of hands, which I hadn't seen before. I audibled and started opening tabs up for each hand history (through the hh viewer) so I could just go through before I got kicked off again and started being more selective of the hands that I was looking for (pots where I won/lost more than 20bb). Some of these tabs would be white and I'd need to hit refresh on my browser for the replay to actually start. At the time I started fearing that something was wrong with my laptop as I'd never seen this before. Eventually I gave up and started playing cash games, lost 5 BI because I apparently forgot where the fold button was, and logged off for the night.

Fast forward to this morning and I wake up to an email from game integrity stating that while my account remains in good standing it was flagged for possible non-compliance.

I don't use third party software or any other tools. I don't travel, and I use the same two devices (laptop and phone) to play on. I don't think that my requesting sweeps coins by mail would have caused this kind of flag to occur. For reference, my last sweeps envelopes request deposit was at the beginning of this month. I had mailed out additional requests (240 envelopes, sent over the course of a month.) around 6 weeks ago so I had been anticipating another deposit any day. Even so, I don't think they'd send this email if my requests and/or redemptions were causing an issue, I think they'd just close my account.

I suspect that my account was flagged for scrolling through the hand histories in the method described above. I'd guess that it was close to how a hand history scraping bot would operate and they wanted to notify me that the behavior was suspicious. I've had a similar experience from when I'd try to save character names on World of Warcraft and would get booted from the server if I created too many characters in a short period of time. My getting disconnected for viewing too many hand histories in a short window felt similar.

I just wanted to pass this information along so, if I'm correct in my assumption, I may caution others against this kind of behavior.

Last edited by Relyhk; 05-19-2022 at 08:58 AM.
05-21-2022 , 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by IneptandUnruley
This site is for recreational purposes.
You know that.
Deal with it.
Never going to be PokerStars.
So does this also apply to a RNG and fair shuffle?

Since it is a 'sweepstakes' game they have no obligation to answer to say a gaming authority over fair games. This is why many question the integrity of Global Poker's games.

Dont get me wrong, I love how they do not allow HUDs and other aides that use data mining to profile players. I wish more sites did this.

I do find it ironic that some of my peers will play on a site where stables of opponents at any given table will have a huge advantage over them as a result of data mining their hand histories and they are okay with that(ie ACR, Stars, ect), but will not play on Global Poker because they do trust the sweepstakes model.

Last edited by Jr0d; 05-21-2022 at 11:53 PM. Reason: F
05-22-2022 , 10:41 AM
What do you do with this information? They definitively state it is completely random, including seat placement, shuffle, runout.

From the GP site some time back - and the certificate is updated each year I believe and is current.
HOW RANDOM IS THE CARD SHUFFLE USED BY GLOBAL POKER?
The RNG used by Global Poker utilizes a Mersenne Twister with background cycling. This was certified by iTechLabs on 15 February 2017 who confirmed that it uses a well known algorithm to generate random numbers. The numbers generated by this RNG have passed Marsaglia’s “diehard” tests for statistical randomness. iTech Labs has found that number sequences are unpredictable, non-repeatable and uniformly distributed.


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Originally Posted by David Lyons
I am not a patent lawyer, so I am not best placed to answer questions on the nature of the VGW patent.

Re: the other patents, I have nothing to add to the conversation, other than to observe that many many patents cite prior art, prior patents, and other primary sources, typically to explain how the patent builds on or relates to that prior art. For example, the patent for postits cites a patent for adhesive fabric. That does not mean postits are made of fabric.

https://rdw.rowan.edu/cgi/viewconten...ew%20invention.



No.

The only "ELO" like system I have ever worked on for poker operators is one that segregated players based on preferred stakes, games, and skill level (among other things) and offered different promotional challenges and rewards to different player segments. I have posted about this (under this account) on 2+2 many many times in the past, discussing the pros, cons, and theory behind this. I also spoke about this on the Talking Global Poker podcast.

In addition, there has been some discussion in the industry of "skill matchmaking" of players in SNGs and JSNGs (and even ring games, although I doubt that is really practicable) like other online games. I believe many social poker sites do this, but Global Poker currently does not.



Yes, every aspect of the deal and runout is completely random, and always will be.
05-22-2022 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Jr0d
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Anyone else have some tips to get through Global's hand history database?

You can download their hand history and tournament summary files and import those to a 3rd party database software like HM3, PT4, etc to review your own hands and results.
05-22-2022 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by threebanger
What do you do with this information? They definitively state it is completely random, including seat placement, shuffle, runout.

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You completely missed my point.

I know of many recreational players who are skeptical of Global's "sweepstakes model" because they dont trust it being fair.

Yet these same recs who donate to the poker economy have no problem donating to the players at ACR, Stars, ect,. who use HUDs and third party aides to put them at an even greater disadvantage.

I suppose the FACT Global does NOT allow 3rd party software, HUDs, data mining, ect.. is something that could possibly be marketed better to the recreational player.
05-22-2022 , 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by fozzy71
You can download their hand history and tournament summary files and import those to a 3rd party database software like HM3, PT4, etc to review your own hands and results.
Have you done this?

Unlike other sites, I do not think they have those files available, largely to prevent data mining from 3rd parties.

They have a hand history feature that can compile past hands but it anonomizes the opponents and is fickle.
05-22-2022 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Jr0d
Have you done this?

Unlike other sites, I do not think they have those files available, largely to prevent data mining from 3rd parties.

They have a hand history feature that can compile past hands but it anonomizes the opponents and is fickle.
My bad. I thought this was in regards to GG Poker by mistake. I don't think Global allows you to download hands. I apologize.

      
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