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Please improve logic on MTT table moves Please improve logic on MTT table moves

10-12-2017 , 11:13 PM
Played in a couple of the multi-table tournaments this evening, and made final ten in two of them. With that came a handful of table moves and consolidations late in the tournament.

In those two tournaments, three of the last four times I got moved, the same thing happened. I'd go through a substantial big blind and small blind and make my way to the button. Either while I was on the button or right after, I'd get moved to a new table... and be the next man into the big blind again.

That's crappy software as it is, but when the blinds are 8,000/4,000 and your stack is down to 15-20k, it's a tournament-ender.
10-13-2017 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by billyho1515
Played in a couple of the multi-table tournaments this evening, and made final ten in two of them. With that came a handful of table moves and consolidations late in the tournament.

In those two tournaments, three of the last four times I got moved, the same thing happened. I'd go through a substantial big blind and small blind and make my way to the button. Either while I was on the button or right after, I'd get moved to a new table... and be the next man into the big blind again.

That's crappy software as it is, but when the blinds are 8,000/4,000 and your stack is down to 15-20k, it's a tournament-ender.
A couple is two. just sayin'
10-13-2017 , 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by highjumper86
A couple is two. just sayin'
A few is three.
10-13-2017 , 05:15 PM
This happens constantly and I'm not sure if there's really a fix. It seems too complicated for the software to know where everybody is getting sat down on each table move and to distribute BBs, SBs, BTNs, etc., equally.

As far as I'm aware, every site does this the same way, where (by appearances) they run some RNG type thing, pick somebody randomly, and put them into the open spot. You just ran bad last night.

I was at one of the tables on which this happened to you, and watched how, right after complaining, you somehow got a walk in the BB when you had a, like, 1.7bb stack. I cracked up a bit.
10-13-2017 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SitandSpin
This happens constantly and I'm not sure if there's really a fix. It seems too complicated for the software to know where everybody is getting sat down on each table move and to distribute BBs, SBs, BTNs, etc., equally.

As far as I'm aware, every site does this the same way, where (by appearances) they run some RNG type thing, pick somebody randomly, and put them into the open spot. You just ran bad last night.

I was at one of the tables on which this happened to you, and watched how, right after complaining, you somehow got a walk in the BB when you had a, like, 1.7bb stack. I cracked up a bit.
You're right, although I really wanted someone to raise it that time! (Had A,K of all things). Literally typed out my complaining in the chat and hit submit when the cards got dealt.
10-14-2017 , 06:37 PM
same thing happened to me, wouldnt even happen if this site was ran by people who cared about poker and not $
10-14-2017 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt
same thing happened to me, wouldnt even happen if this site was ran by people who cared about poker and not $
Not sure I follow the logical deduction that because they do a poor job on MTT table moves (which I do agree, needs some fixing) then they don't care about poker, but only care about money.

Looking forward to your explanation.
10-16-2017 , 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt
same thing happened to me, wouldnt even happen if this site was ran by people who cared about poker and not $
Online poker wouldn't exist if the people who ran it didn't care about money.

If a poker site doesn't provide the value for your money that you're looking for, either switch sites or find a new hobby/profession.

With that said, since Global is I assume trying to make as much money as possible, the best way for them to do that is to make as many of their customers as happy as possible.

Happy customers = more $$$ for Global.
10-18-2017 , 10:10 PM
Again twice tonight. At this point, there really is something wrong with the logic of the system.
10-20-2017 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by billyho1515
Again twice tonight. At this point, there really is something wrong with the logic of the system.
Maybe I'm too oblivious to notice such things, but I've played in a ton of tournaments on Global for several months now and I haven't noticed this being a recurring problem for me. But, like I said, I'm pretty oblivious.
10-20-2017 , 10:49 AM
Every tournament in the world assigns people randomly when they break tables. If you get the BB twice in a row it's just bad luck.

If the tables are being balanced because one table loses two players while another is full, they should move the player next in line to be BB and put him in the worst spot on the new table. I haven't noticed whether Global does this properly.

QL
10-20-2017 , 11:52 PM
They do not do that properly. I know that the general rule is to move players closest to where they were on the table.

I'm not sure about the rules on chip stacks, but they really boned a couple of us tonight in the $50 six max tournament. Got down to seven people, so there was a table of four and a table of three. They stuck the three biggest stacks together on one table, and the other four on the other table.

Anyone know the "rules" on that? Or is it supposed to be just random and it was crap luck?
10-21-2017 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by billyho1515
They do not do that properly. I know that the general rule is to move players closest to where they were on the table.

I'm not sure about the rules on chip stacks, but they really boned a couple of us tonight in the $50 six max tournament. Got down to seven people, so there was a table of four and a table of three. They stuck the three biggest stacks together on one table, and the other four on the other table.

Anyone know the "rules" on that? Or is it supposed to be just random and it was crap luck?
There is no rule about moving chip stacks, nor should there be for obvious reasons.

Quiet Lion is spot on. In a live mtt let's say (where the floor staff can control table balancing), they will move someone from the similar position to fill the gap in the new table, so the player moving is coming into the exact spot (or very close to it) they would have been on their original table. When an entire table breaks, you are assigned seat cards randomly and can easily get moved right into the blinds even if you just paid them, or get a break, moving from UTG to behind the button. No one complains about the latter, but always about the former.

      
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