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07-31-2019 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jaredpoker
As I understand it, max is usually 1x.
Wow, it sounds like Global is making it almost impossible to withdraw compared to other sites. This can't be good for there business?
07-31-2019 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by badbeat2000
Wow, it sounds like Global is making it almost impossible to withdraw compared to other sites. This can't be good for there business?
Take a look at their business; games won't even run. They don't care, however. Just dump money on ads.
08-02-2019 , 04:40 PM
Bump.
08-03-2019 , 01:00 AM
I propose a rule that a thread can only be bumped after 48 hours of no responses.
08-03-2019 , 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
I propose a rule that a thread can only be bumped after 48 hours of no responses.
Respectfully I don't agree. This person has been trying for many days now to withdraw his money that was denied to him on the basis that he needs to generate enough rake to cover his last initial deposit 20 times over.
Apparently most online sites require enough rake to be produced so cover their most recent deposit on a one to basis before attempting to withdraw.
Furthermore the 20 times requirement was meted out to him and not others.
An explanation from Global is required as 20 times the buy in through generating rake would make withdrawals almost impossible. It is excessive to compared to other online sites, why????
08-03-2019 , 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by badbeat2000
Respectfully I don't agree. This person has been trying for many days now to withdraw his money that was denied to him on the basis that he needs to generate enough rake to cover his last initial deposit 20 times over.
Apparently most online sites require enough rake to be produced so cover their most recent deposit on a one to basis before attempting to withdraw.
Furthermore the 20 times requirement was meted out to him and not others.
An explanation from Global is required as 20 times the buy in through generating rake would make withdrawals almost impossible. It is excessive to compared to other online sites, why????
I like everything you said, except the bolded part. We have no way of knowing if anyone else has the 20 times buy-in requirement. Would be nice to know why Jared has been arbitrarily (?) singled out. 20x is permitted by the TOS though.
08-03-2019 , 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
I like everything you said, except the bolded part. We have no way of knowing if anyone else has the 20 times buy-in requirement. Would be nice to know why Jared has been arbitrarily (?) singled out. 20x is permitted by the TOS though.
I agree with you, but one thing I do know, I did not have to go through 20 times my buy in rake generation or anywhere near that in order to do a recent withdrawal.

Initially I was unaware of how exactly playthrough works and was too hasty in posting suggestions of malfeasance when denied a withdrawal and for that I apologize

For the longest time I could not operate profitably playing on Global but finally found that when I got into MTT games instead of just SNGs things seem to be turning around. If you look at my Sharkscope graph you will see what I mean.

Perhaps on the Sng's they are more prone to collusion? I have run up the ring games from a $20.00 buy into the low thousands a few times but find generally the variances are pretty tough and overall gave up on playing ring games.
Over all I enjoy the site and definitely have been able to improve my game as a player, I found I ran into a wide variety of players from beginner to players that consistently show great results on the MTT's.

I do think it is important to have a consistent playthrough policy as opposed to discretionary where one could see their metrics in real time and no when they are able to withdraw. Perhaps it is not possible as the site could not run profitably in scenarios where traffic is low therefore the need to raise or lower playthrough requirements.
08-03-2019 , 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
I like everything you said, except the bolded part. We have no way of knowing if anyone else has the 20 times buy-in requirement. Would be nice to know why Jared has been arbitrarily (?) singled out. 20x is permitted by the TOS though.
I agree with you, but one thing I do know, I did not have to go through 20 times my buy in rake generation or anywhere near that in order to do a recent withdrawal.

Initially I was unaware of how exactly playthrough works and was too hasty in posting suggestions of malfeasance when denied a withdrawal and for that I apologize

For the longest time I could not operate profitably playing on Global but finally found that when I got into MTT games instead of just SNGs things seem to be turning around. If you look at my Sharkscope graph you will see what I mean.

Perhaps on the Sng's they are more prone to collusion? I have run up the ring games from a $20.00 buy into the low thousands a few times but find generally the variances are pretty tough and overall gave up on playing ring games.
Over all I enjoy the site and definitely have been able to improve my game as a player, I found I ran into a wide variety of players from beginner to players that consistently show great results on the MTT's.

I do think it is important to have a consistent playthrough policy as opposed to discretionary where one could see their metrics in real time and no when they are able to withdraw. Perhaps it is not possible as the site could not run profitably in scenarios where traffic is low therefore the need to raise or lower playthrough requirements.
08-03-2019 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by badbeat2000
I agree with you, but one thing I do know, I did not have to go through 20 times my buy in rake generation or anywhere near that in order to do a recent withdrawal.

Initially I was unaware of how exactly playthrough works and was too hasty in posting suggestions of malfeasance when denied a withdrawal and for that I apologize

For the longest time I could not operate profitably playing on Global but finally found that when I got into MTT games instead of just SNGs things seem to be turning around. If you look at my Sharkscope graph you will see what I mean.

Perhaps on the Sng's they are more prone to collusion? I have run up the ring games from a $20.00 buy into the low thousands a few times but find generally the variances are pretty tough and overall gave up on playing ring games.
Over all I enjoy the site and definitely have been able to improve my game as a player, I found I ran into a wide variety of players from beginner to players that consistently show great results on the MTT's.

I do think it is important to have a consistent playthrough policy as opposed to discretionary where one could see their metrics in real time and no when they are able to withdraw. Perhaps it is not possible as the site could not run profitably in scenarios where traffic is low therefore the need to raise or lower playthrough requirements.
Well said!

Last edited by lagtight; 08-03-2019 at 09:45 AM. Reason: Bad sppeling
08-03-2019 , 01:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lagtight
I like everything you said, except the bolded part. We have no way of knowing if anyone else has the 20 times buy-in requirement. Would be nice to know why Jared has been arbitrarily (?) singled out. 20x is permitted by the TOS though.
this is obv true since nobody else has reported such a scenario. On that same note, logic would suggest that if another player has been forced to do the 20x rollover before cashing out we'd have heard about it by now? I've not played on gp for a while but after seeing this, if it plays out how it appears its going to i have no interest in ever playing there again and would advise others to avoid it as well. Imo this is a sign of things to come, like when Merge straight out banned winning players for winning too much a few years back. and we aren't talking about a lot of $, there are people that have been banned from playing there for making low 4 figures too quickly. I understand where Jared is coming from and I agree with him, this is way out of line.

Last edited by Floki.onGP; 08-03-2019 at 01:55 PM.
08-03-2019 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Floki.onGP
this is obv true since nobody else has reported such a scenario. On that same note, logic would suggest that if another player has been forced to do the 20x rollover before cashing out we'd have heard about it by now? I've not played on gp for a while but after seeing this, if it plays out how it appears its going to i have no interest in ever playing there again and would advise others to avoid it as well. Imo this is a sign of things to come, like when Merge straight out banned winning players for winning too much a few years back. and we aren't talking about a lot of $, there are people that have been banned from playing there for making low 4 figures too quickly. I understand where Jared is coming from and I agree with him, this is way out of line.
I agree with you, too. Could be a portent of Global forcing out winning players without technically "banning" them the way Merge did.

Unfortunately, we all "agreed" to the 20x indirectly by accepting Global's TOS before we started playing here.

Addendum: The next time I'm accused of being a "Global shill" , I will direct them to this post.��

Last edited by lagtight; 08-03-2019 at 02:11 PM. Reason: Added addendum
08-03-2019 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
I agree with you, too. Could be a portent of Global forcing out winning players without technically "banning" them the way Merge did.

Unfortunately, we all "agreed" to the 20x indirectly by accepting Global's TOS before we started playing here.

Addendum: The next time I'm accused of being a "Global shill" , I will direct them to this post.��
+1 to all of that. something else to think about, if gp is a social rec player network, what happens when i refer friends, family or acquaintances from the local card room and they wind up getting hit with the 20x rollover req? I'd guess they'd not be very happy with me, and tell others about it too. So why again should i play there or recommend people do? That's my stance on it and if I were Jared I'd take it to twitter, open an acct or whatever, but this needs much more publicity than it's getting imo. Like this poker news media article worthy i think.
08-03-2019 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Floki.onGP
+1 to all of that. something else to think about, if gp is a social rec player network, what happens when i refer friends, family or acquaintances from the local card room and they wind up getting hit with the 20x rollover req? I'd guess they'd not be very happy with me, and tell others about it too. So why again should i play there or recommend people do? That's my stance on it and if I were Jared I'd take it to twitter, open an acct or whatever, but this needs much more publicity than it's getting imo. Like this poker news media article worthy i think.
I again agree with everything you said. Global should at a minimum tell a user BEFORE he or she makes a deposit what the play through requirement is.
08-03-2019 , 05:23 PM


Miraculously, I play through about 8 grand on the site. I finally go to cashout my long-awaited (20x playedthrough) cashout. And yet, I get denied again, with no reason whatsoever. No emails, no responses to my emails, messages, forum post, fb messages, etc. All in conjunction with being randomly banned earlier this summer, and still having thousands missing from my account. Can't believe I am about to say this, given my past usage on the site, but it looks like this will not be resolved; I caution and challenge everyone on the site to reconsider your play on the site. You can, and will, have everything taken from you for any reason, or in my case, no reason at all. While this is billed as a poker site, it is far from it. It is a vain attempt in circumventing Sweepstakes laws (which they fail to do, anyways), and is far from a poker site. I will be regularly updating and warning people ad infinitum, barring any changes, so that nobody else suffers the same result as I. I gave a year+ of my life to the site, and so if it happened to me, it could happen to anyone.


Not sure how why pic wont upload, but I'm posting it here since I'm getting an error. If a mod could fix, I would very much appreciate.
08-03-2019 , 08:28 PM
Jared Poker is by far the best player ever on Global Poker. He is reporting being denied payment for no reason what so ever!!!! He has met the play through requirements. Yet his post is ignored by the usual Global Poker shills, no where to be found. Why is this being ignored? Is Global Poker going bankrupt?
I ask this because I can not conceive of any other reason Global will not pay him. It is just really bad business! Either Global should pay him or tell us a really good reason they are not. Else this forum has no place a reputable site like two + two.
08-03-2019 , 11:15 PM
Jared making a new account? =)
08-03-2019 , 11:56 PM
Thankfully, a voice of reason such as yourself, (see prior manic claims of GP not paying) is here to save the day.
08-04-2019 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by a dewd
Thankfully, a voice of reason such as yourself, (see prior manic claims of GP not paying) is here to save the day.
Yes, I already apologized for that in Jaredpoker's thread. Why don't you knock off the ad hominem attack and address the issue? When Global's best player is quitting over denial of payment something is very wrong.
08-04-2019 , 01:59 AM
If GP does not have a legitimate reason for not paying you, then not paying you is a criminal act. Global reps probably on weekend holiday right now, but they should immediately tell you what's going on and why they're not paying you.

(Of course I am assuming that your version of the story is in fact correct.)
08-04-2019 , 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by iburydoscocaroaches
Jared making a new account? =)
Yes, meant "Jaredpoker".
08-04-2019 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by badbeat2000
Yes, I already apologized for that in Jaredpoker's thread. Why don't you knock off the ad hominem attack and address the issue? When Global's best player is quitting over denial of payment something is very wrong.
It's more a reaction of your irrational suggestions of doom, folly, and silly use of superlatives. GP's financials are public, suggesting they are broke is.....stupid.
08-04-2019 , 11:04 AM
Sent you a PM

20x is absurd, period, whether or not it is in their TOS. It also seems like exercising arbitrary rules which appears to violate sweepstakes laws. I have the contact information for their US attorney and he specializes in Sweepstakes Law. I'll PM it to you in a little while. If it's a decent amount of money, then obviously worth your while to hire a local attorney in the US.

Lost as to why Kimbr has not responded, she has been pretty good in the past. I'll have that info for you within an hour.

There really should be an explanation, not "it's in our TOS", as to such random widespread rules.
08-04-2019 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by a dewd
It's more a reaction of your irrational suggestions of doom, folly, and silly use of superlatives. GP's financials are public, suggesting they are broke is.....stupid.
You will note that I asked that question in the context of why they are denying payment to the best player they have ever had on their site. if they are not insolvent as you insist then why are they denying payment to this player. By the way, please provide a reference as to where we can see Global's financials.
Why would you think it is irrational to question why they are denying payment to Jaredpoker and that this would not be a source of concern to other players on the site?
If it is not insolvency then it is much worst, either incredibly incompetent in pay outs or they are just crooks.
08-04-2019 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by a dewd
It's more a reaction of your irrational suggestions of doom, folly, and silly use of superlatives. GP's financials are public, suggesting they are broke is.....stupid.
By the way, Kudos' to you for finally taking a closer look at Jaredpoker's case. I see that you finally replied to his playthrough thread.
08-04-2019 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by badbeat2000
You will note that I asked that question in the context of why they are denying payment to the best player they have ever had on their site. if they are not insolvent as you insist then why are they denying payment to this player. By the way, please provide a reference as to where we can see Global's financials.
Why would you think it is irrational to question why they are denying payment to Jaredpoker and that this would not be a source of concern to other players on the site?
If it is not insolvency then it is much worst, either incredibly incompetent in pay outs or they are just crooks.
They were on VGW.co website, have to look or wait for me get links later.

Why they are not paying? I don't know and it is a good question. There are two sides to every story. With that said, randomly assigning playthrough levels without giving the player upfront notice is, at best, grimy and possibly a violation of US sweepstakes laws.

      
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