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Here's a link to the public T&C's - please show me where it says I can't play at another person's IP, and please show me where it says I need to rely on another person to send in docs for me to receive my own money.

I'll wait.

For starters:

2. By participating in the Global Poker Sweepstakes, you acknowledge that you are aged 18 years or above and reside in a jurisdiction where participating in the Global Poker Sweepstakes is legal.
3. VGW reserves the right to request for proof of age and temporarily suspend the account until satisfactory proof of age documents are received and validated.
4. Customers are only allowed to register one account with Global Poker. If discovered that multiple accounts have been registered by a customer, VGW reserves the right to terminate all such accounts at its discretion.

Do I need to elaborate each of those?

11-11-2017 , 03:06 PM

#27

Prep04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MotownGreek

2 and 3 are not the problem. Now if OP and friend were to collude then I see an issue, and could understand why global would want friends ID as well. If that was the case then #4 does not apply in this situation.

What I think he is asking is where does it say that one can only play on the same IP with verified users.

11-11-2017 , 03:19 PM

#28

BlackFr1day

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MotownGreek

Well since I've complied with literally all of those rules, then yes, please elaborate.

11-11-2017 , 03:27 PM

#29

a dewd

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackFr1day

Well since I've complied with literally all of those rules, then yes, please elaborate.

Fairly simple, not sure why it's lost on you. Their software picked up two accounts/users on same IP address. It registers as possible collusion to them. All they asked is for proof that the other person exists, basically. It isn't global that is screwing you, it's your friend. He sends his ID and you get money. Until then, it registers as something shady in their eyes.

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11-11-2017 , 03:36 PM

#30

BlackFr1day

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Quote:

Originally Posted by a dewd

My question was which one of the T&C's did I break? Fairly simple question, not sure why it's lost on you?

11-11-2017 , 03:46 PM

#31

Prep04

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Have to agree with BlackFriday if he is stating everything and being honest.

According to the T&C posted, if friend can not prove verification then friend's account should be suspended. Shouldn't punish one player for someone else's mistake.

11-11-2017 , 04:08 PM

#32

goodsaint

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackFr1day

My question was which one of the T&C's did I break? Fairly simple question, not sure why it's lost on you?

You may not have broken any of the T&C's. But, from Gobal's point of view, there is the appearance of multi-accounting possible. They've asked for your friend's ID to eliminate that possibility. Your friend won't comply, hence stalemate. But, you're on the worst end of it. Not good for you. But, c'est la vie.

11-11-2017 , 05:54 PM

#33

lagtight

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As every regular reader on this forum knows, I'm a big fan of Global. But in this case, it looks like BlackFriday is getting screwed.

11-11-2017 , 06:13 PM

#34

lagtight

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I just sent a PM to the Global Administrators urging them to do the right thing here. (Assuming the facts presented by Blackfriday are accurate.)

11-11-2017 , 07:36 PM

#35

BlackFr1day

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I think the obvious (at least imo) play from Global if they're going to punish someone is to suspend my friend's account until he sends in docs. He's the one not complying and I'm the one getting screwed. He's busto as I've said so he has no desire to send in docs. I did everything they asked of me, I can't be responsible for convincing another player to send a copy of his driver's licence to a poker site.

11-11-2017 , 08:12 PM

#36

big bwalz

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackFr1day

I think the obvious (at least imo) play from Global if they're going to punish someone is to suspend my Acquaintance/associate's/other acct I set up and got caught with that now has a zero balance account until he sends in docs. He's the one not complying and I'm the one getting screwed. He's busto as I've said so he has no desire to send in docs. I did everything they asked of me, I can't be responsible for convincing another player to send a copy of his driver's licence to a poker site.

fyp

11-11-2017 , 08:15 PM

#37

big bwalz

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lagtight

I just sent a PM to the Global Administrators urging them to do the right thing here. (Assuming the facts presented by Blackfriday are accurate.)

bro u should stay in your lane, same with splaya and others here. there are so many possibilities here, what if op set up an acct in his friends name and didnt tell him planned on selling him a piece later or, or , or..and bla bla bla.

11-11-2017 , 08:22 PM

#38

big bwalz

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the incessant thoughtless nonsense coming from lagtight and others (splaya even tho hes coming from a good place i do think his fingers work faster than his brain) is a huge waste of space and time of forum mods/reps, actual informed and seasoned posters or anybody else pretty much. you guys should jsut pm each other 20 time per day imo.

11-11-2017 , 08:42 PM

#39

BlackFr1day

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Just review the hands, imo. No collusion, dumping, or anything sketchy.

11-11-2017 , 08:52 PM

#40

BlackFr1day

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Quote:

Originally Posted by big bwalz

Also I think it's important to let people know that this is what will happen if you play with a friend. I signed up with the intention of playing with friends and if I knew this would happen I def wouldn't have signed up.

11-11-2017 , 09:34 PM

#41

M.A.H.P.'s

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Originally Posted by big bwalz

or we could post 2x in a row, like you. #hypocrite

11-11-2017 , 10:03 PM

#42

Tapirboy

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Friend's ID is meaningless with regard to whether there was collusion. Either there was and it doesn't matter, or there wasn't, and it doesn't matter.

The only thing that it matters for is if OP is multiaccounting, and it seems pretty unlikely he would go to a new IP just to multiaccount once and then stop. OP, did you and Friend play in the same MTT? I thought the software didn't allow that.

11-11-2017 , 10:30 PM

#43

lagtight

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Quote:

Originally Posted by big bwalz

Blackfriday posted here to get help, so I'm trying to help. And if Blackfriday wants me to "stay in my lane", I will. But YOU, bigbwalz, I will ignore.

Peace. Out.

11-12-2017 , 11:03 PM

#44

sam1chips

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lagtight

I just sent a PM to the Global Administrators urging them to do the right thing here. (Assuming the facts presented by Blackfriday are accurate.)

Wouldn't you think that the site would want to do some research as to whether BlackFriday's claims are accurate...like, you know, verifying the other account that is being used from the same IP address?

Last edited by sam1chips; 11-12-2017 at 11:10 PM.

11-13-2017 , 12:01 AM

#45

lagtight

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sam1chips

Yes.

11-13-2017 , 12:11 AM

#46

Rutledge Smitty

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lagtight

Yes.

Then why would you pm the reps

11-13-2017 , 04:31 AM

#47

lagtight

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rutledge Smitty

Then why would you pm the reps

Because I knew it would irritate you, Smitty.

Seriously folks, I just thought I might help things along by putting a bug in their ear.

Signed,
A Concerned Citizen

Last edited by lagtight; 11-13-2017 at 04:33 AM. Reason: added some substance to post

11-13-2017 , 09:31 AM

#48

sam1chips

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackFr1day

- I have my own acct at Global
- Took my laptop to friend's house and played a few hands on Global
- Tried to cash out, sent in all documents Global requested, Global says they won't pay until my friend sends in his license and utility bill because we both logged in from the same IP one time

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackFr1day

Easy fix if friend sends in his docs, but if not then what? Global just eats my bankroll? He has told me he doesn't want to send his driver's license to Global (he's busto
anyway and doesn't care about playing there)

OP, assuming your story is true and you/your friend did nothing wrong...why don't you tell your friend that you will give him 10% of your withdrawal if he sends in his documents?

It would seem to be a win-win, as you would be able to get your money, and your busto friend would be able to make some cash as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rutledge Smitty

Not the point, point is you could've been colluding. He's a friend, ask him to send in his info so you can cashout. Not hard to do unless you have real ****ty friends.

Also this

11-13-2017 , 10:21 AM

#49

Tizull

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More and more it just sounds like OP opened two accounts.

11-13-2017 , 11:08 AM

#50

BlackFr1day

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sam1chips

OP, assuming your story is true and you/your friend did nothing wrong...why don't you tell your friend that you will give him 10% of your withdrawal if he sends in his documents?

Because I shouldn't have to. I did nothing wrong, and I complied with everything Global asked me to do. If Global can prove I colluded or cheated then sure, I'll forfeit the funds. If not, ship the nickels imo

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