Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

It's off-topic a bit, but agree with this 100% I've been asking for almost a decade how companies like CBS Sportsline got away with offering fantasy football leagues and taking vig. It's literal sports betting. It's like betting on horse racing. I mean exactly. DFS is even more clearly gambling.

I play FF. I'm a fan. I just don't see how the industry eluded the gambling rep as opposed to other games of leveraged chance.

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THIS.

Bovada is now blocking NY entirely, and I assume other "non legal" states. I guess Crypto isn't considered real money, so we will see how that turns out, but I have no interest in messing with it. Actual money only for me. Seems like a HUGE pain in the ass, having to "Buy" bitcoin which I suppose is just like a currency exchange, but I have not the time to be doing all that nonsense. I'm too damn old.

I liked GP when it was a simple PayPal site, but now it's just another offshore site with US loopholes... Anyone in a banned by the Gov't state should steer clear of these, god only knows what kind of prosecution you might face. Our AG is a weirdo!

Tried to edit my earlier post and delete the "Greece" thing... lol I was tired, and thinking of something sounding similar. But anyway...

I still stand by my questions, and we SHOULD know if they were kicked off PayPal, some of us actually want to KEEP our accounts there. I would hate to be shut down for "violating the TOS" should they go that route.

Guys, remember the old saying about a Gambler's word being his bond? Rings true still... If they had to lie to us, and they DID with this "beta testing" bull****, then how can we trust them with our money, our bank info, our Credit cards?

That's all I'm sayin.

Hmmm...

Given THIS news, NOT a good sign...

https://pokerfuse.com/news/law-and-r...-black-market/

Pretty good post from the thread in the zoo

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...65&postcount=3

They will NEVER... I repeat, NEVER disclose why PayPal ceased doing business with them. Doing so would open up the dialogue that GP doesn't dare touch and would be a huge negative for their marketing and more importantly the integrity of the company. Not to mention PayPal (just maybe) has an agreement with them that if it didn't work out that there would be a non disclosure agreement of some sort and that GP would have to pitch it to their players in this way to avoid PayPal being dragged into the spotlight. Lets not forget the business tactics that PayPal used back in the early stages of their growth before they got with eBay. Hell, they could have maybe had a plan to make say 100 million in profit off GP and then exit, playing dumb. Welcome to corporate America peeps, MERICA!

PayPal is a currency mammoth worth $100 billion, they aren't begging for GP business- its the other way around. This is a HUGE blow for GP in the short term, who knows if they'll recover.

World Pay isn't governed by US policy like PayPal so it may last longer and end up being just fine.

US policy doesn't cover companies in Ohio? That seems unlikely.

Headquartered in Europe aren't they?

Ohio. They are one of the largest card processing companies in the world.

Fantasy sports betting is the most legal of all gambling in the US. Somehow politicians are not scared of being thrown out of office by allowing fantasy betting, but terrified if even one adult wants to play a hand of friggin poker.

The law that prohibits online gambling from being offered to Australians has no effect on Global Poker.

Also, the legality of GlobalPoker hasn't changed now that they stopped using PayPal. If it's illegal now, then it was illegal before, and you should be extremely worried about the prosecution you will face.

They just sent me an email saying they'd send me my balance on paypal in exchange for closing my account. I responded with, I agree.

Here's to hoping I get my money before another lock/wsex happens to me (at least tilt/stars/gamesgrid/AP/UB I was able to get my money EVENTUALLY...even if it took 7 years to get some of it).

Strange that closing your account is part of the deal to get paypal. Did you ask that or did they?

Understand that during Black Friday many non-Americans quickly cashed out their Stars account, and some closed it after as well, and all they did was miss out on some great games, a ton of reload bonuses, and for the people who closed their account - the ability to ever play there again.

I certainly would not put Global in the same category as Stars in any way, but the panic behavior is one that I have seen in many iterations for a long time in this industry. Sometimes it is valid (though you mention of Lock was interesting as it was near impossible to get a lot of the players to leave that room even when no cashouts were happening) and other times it is panic for the love of panic.

Why is this? Most americans support online poker, I think? What are they afraid of?

Afraid is probably the wrong word. A fantasy sports exception was put into the law that banned banks and credit cards from being able to fund poker and other gambling accounts online.

"The Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006 included 'carve out' language that clarified the legality of fantasy sports. It was passed by Congress and signed into law on October 13, 2006 by President George W. Bush. The act makes transactions from banks or similar institutions to online gambling sites illegal, with the notable exceptions of fantasy sports, online lotteries, and horse/harness racing."

https://fsta.org/research/why-fantas...-not-gambling/

The argument has long been that poker is a game of skill and therefore should be allowed. That would be an interesting point to bring before a judge, and fight your way up the courts to get the law overturned or sent back to Congress for amendment. I could see a court saying "Allow them both, or don't allow them at all but you can't have it both ways" but then that would require fighting it out in court, and no guarantee of success.

But if you see those exceptions... the one thing that should stick out to you is money. The reason those exceptions are there, and poker isn't, is because palms got greased by those parties. Horse racing, sports betting and lotteries had plenty of influence and online poker had very little to none. If Full Tilt and PS had been putting more money into lobbyists and congressional members, would we even have had black Friday? My guess is no.

Poker has already been declared a game if skill in court. The UIGEA hasn't caught up to that and not likely to ever really get there until feds just give it up to states to decide.

The biggest issue is, taxation. Our screwball woman abuser ex-AG in NY banned DK as being an illegal operation/gambling. When a tax agreement was reached.... magically it was allowed. Politicians need their cut.

I thought community college was 2 years , or are you taking trump online course? All you mofos in this thread will be doomswiched to hell for all the negativity in this thread. 5 buisness days is not that long and it was just a matter of time and disputed accounts on paypal for this to go down.

Paypal knew it was gambling site, my guess is too many disputes as gambling shut it finally down.

Paypal obviously severed the relationship due to too many chargebacks.

I believe globals headquaters is in Australia.

I seriously doubt anybody is going to be prosecuted for playing poker online.

For one, nobody cares for the most part - even in a state where gambling may be illegal, which I think there are two. Also, there are numerous ways to make it virtually impossible for them to know what you are doing - for instance if you us VPN and have a bank account set up in a state where it is legal as an example. If you were that paranoid. Lots of people have out of state banks accounts - I do and not because of poker, but simply because I've lived a life up to now.

On top of that, online poker isn't actually illegal federally.

Police don't even go after home games as long as there is no rake. There are home games in every state in the nation - even and especially in Utah where you "can't" "gamble."

As to Paypal... It's not like Paypal is the golden child here. There are plenty of issues and problems with it. Granted, if you are just paying for your niece's Girl Scout cookies you likely will never experience any issues. But, if you are a business that transacts thousands or even millions of dollars through them, be prepared to have your money frozen on the reg. They do this frequently which is why they are difficult to deal with - no matter if you are a poker site or you sell furniture. Just stating the facts. People seem to think Paypal is the ****, but it can be a pain in the ass. Imagine having 500,000 frozen for a month or 3 million. That could really affect your ability to do business. To facilitate withdraws for instance.

I agree with you. Everything that guy posted is ridiculous.

Good post.

PayPal can be impossible opening a business account if it is not clear what you are doing. We wasted almost 6 weeks trying to get one account opened. They are the evil empire of online banking.

That post is absurd

Did you ever find out?

Every 24 hours Global sends me a "reminder it's been 24 hours since you last responded" email...(they did this at 24 hour, and now 48 hours)...problem is I keep responding. I keep emailing them (3 times now) and no one is responding back nor acknowledging my emails.

I guess they were just trying to delay everything until July so they wouldn't have to pay me via paypal.

I sent in my documents and they verified everything, so maybe they'll pay me via bank deposit eventually????

I'm so sick of this site, can't wait to get my money off and be done with it.

Just to provide an update to everyone, I accepted an offer Global gave me a week ago to close my account in exchange for one last Paypal cashout. Well...it's been a week and I have no funds in my account and no funds in Paypal. Support told me it takes them 5 days to process cashouts now, since when has this been the case? Really starting to feel like I'm out money.

What a mess.