Is this similar to Netspend? I have someone I have been assisting who tried using Netspend and it didn't work. I don't believe cash outs can be made to prepaid Visa but I will clarify

I am looking at this with the finance team now, not sure what the hold up is but I will see what I can find out for you.

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What great lengths? They said no from day 1. No story, no lies, just a simple 'no, not making them available'. Agree or not with them in that point, but there was no scrambling or great lengths I solved in saying no, repeatedly.

this is erroneous

i wish they would been more honest about it idont mean to ***** but very unhappy how it was handle

Cashouts were going well for a bit there. Things seem to have came to a halt now though.

I haven't seen anyone receive a cashout this week, at least.

After a few exchanges with email support I have agreed to have my account closed in exchange for a final Paypal cash out of my entire balance. If anyone else is concerned over the cyber security of Global and VGW in light of recent events reach out to support ASAP to ensure you get your funds prior to Paypal's official exit on the 30th of this month.

Was just going to mention this, too. One of my group received the same email/offer.

I'm actually in the process of doing this just to be safe as I have more money than I'm willing to risk on Global atm. I asked about opening a new account afterward but I just emailed them so haven't got a response. Why do they have to close your account to get this one time paypal withdrawal??

Every company in the world makes personal stats available to their users. Literally all of them. Banks. Gaming sites. Fantasy football. Utility companies.

But Global Poker refused to allow real, searchable stats... downloadable hand hitories, even with protection for others in hands.

People called for it and they refused over and over.

Many of us warned this looked shady AF. Now some here are acting surprised that they are lying to us about payment options, lying to us about "people not wanting Paypal?"

lol

OK.

I've watched almost every online poker company end up in scandal over 15 years. This one was easy to see coming, and my suspicion is it's going to get worse.

You said they went through great lengths to deny hand histories. My question was what lengths did they go to? They said no, upfront and from day 1. Seems like it was straight forward with no wavering. That's not to say it is out of the ordinary, but they really expended zero time or energy on it aside from saying no.

Now the way they handle this change with the bull**** happy lies in the emails is another thing. That's straight up grimey. They created a **** storm when they could have chosen to be honest about it. No one breathing would believe that this was due to customer demand. It also gives credence to every tinfoil hat theory under the sun. If they will lie about something as obvious about this, what's next? The happy horse**** verbiage they used was unnecessary and showed them to be liars.

After all this time, the site I'm starting to trust the most is CoinPoker. Amazing.

Waited for a cash out for days and nothing. Taken matters in to my own hands and disputed EVERY single deposit via PayPal. See what happens now.

If we're in a war of semantics here, how about reject? (Deny access to.)

If you're saying that it's actually OK because they said from the begining that they wouldn't operate with transparency... I have to disagree.

Them refusing basic access to our histories and stats was tell. Some chose to ignore it becuase short term, they were profitting... and here we are.
People with thousands stuck in their accounts, murky future and conflicting messages from a company we're supposed to trust with our BRs.

It sure does, and perhaps they all weren't tinfoil hat theories. Perhaps people's theories rooted on companies choosing not to be transparent had legs in the first place?

We'll see, but it's not looking good for GP right about now.

Nah, it was no tell, they are completely unrelated, although since the hand histories is your obsessive issue you will naturally try to link it with Paypal. If the guys saying every all-in were a coin flip were still flipping around they would try to link their belief to the paypal change as well. You should have seen all the randos who came out of the woodwork after Black Friday who screamed on their virtual wooden box claiming their random concerns were proven by the DoJ's actions. For what it is worth, the hand history concern was a valid one, although no traction really ever came of it (my suggestions of a separate thread about it never went anywhere by those who were passionate about it). Still, although it was a legitimate topic to discuss, it is not related at all to the Paypal situation, nor the poor way they handled presenting that change to their players.

You must have not read it much when the crazy Nash guy was posting hundreds of times :O. Think they removed all his posts as they do when they discover he is back.

Lol, yeah I saw his posts. Funny stuff.

Lots of hate thrown around that thread early on, (haven't looked in month or more), but the one guy helped me get my wallet verified and for cost of the Eth and gas.

I have no idea. Seems even more shady to me. They're pretty much agreeing to boot you as a customer, now or in the future. I'll likely never come back.

This is bad, no doubt the site is never going to be the same if they even survive at all.

A couple things:

To hand histories... They do provide limited hand history recall, you just can't download them as far as I can tell. Now, they could provide this feature, but they haven't up to this point. The thing is, hand histories generally only matter to certain types of players - people who like to study their and other people's play. Those are generally better players who are trying to increase their edge. But, the site isn't really about just those type of players. In fact, if it was, the ones that are those types of players wouldn't even like Global as much - as one of the likes about Global are the recreational players.

Also, this isn't much different than live play. In live play there are no "hand histories" as such. You can take your own notes on a piece of paper or possibly record some play with your phone if you can get away with it. But that's about it. That's what many people do - take notes physically. Which is more in line with live play - which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Remember they are trying to appeal to everyone, not just hardcore sharks.

As to some people being worried about Identity theft or whatever, I get it. It worries me too. But here's the thing, anybody that has a checking account, has checks. Checks are pieces of paper with your name, address, bank account number, routing number and even your signature. We give those out to strangers all the time. I'm not sure why that would be quite as concerning as some of you think it is when it comes to Global Poker. Also, many credit card companies and banks offer free credit monitoring - mine do. You can check them monthly or even weekly and it doesn't hurt your credit to do so.

World Pay appears to be a legitimate multi-billion dollar company. That being said, I've only been playing on Global for a month, so I don't have a lot of experience with them.

Am I concerned about what's going on with payment methods and a drop in player numbers? Yeah, of course. But, I like to adopt a wait and see approach to what's going on here.

How did you go about doing this? I've asked that my personal information and bank statement be scrubbed and my account closed and they are telling me they can't do that. Well, they told some guy named "Kyle" that, and then copied and pasted that response in an email to me (my name is not Kyle).

Come on guys, your thinking way too much into this. I've played on GP for quite a while in the last few months. It's easy, they used paypay as a way to pay and labeled themselves as a App company or something of the sort. They started receiving a ton of charge backs after people lost their money. Once paypay looked into it, they realized it was a gambling company. So they froze GP's paypal account. So now that all that money is frozen in there, GP has to rely on incoming deposits from new players / rebuy players to pay off all of their old debt to customers who requested a cashout. Most likely their paypal account is going to be frozen for a quite a few months and they are only going to be able to cashout a few of the requests from people who have smaller amount cashouts. It's just business. They thought they were going to be able to use the "Sweeps Cash" system as a way to go above the law. Well I'm sorry to say that might have worked a few years ago but now when we have States opening up online gambling they were caught in the crosshairs of the system they used to process payments. I used my debit card with BoA to deposit over the weekend and it was immediately flagged and set into "suspicious" mode. This is all a big reminder of what happened about 5 years ago when the US outlawed online gaming. Here we go again.

Maybe the switch from PayPal to Worldpay is just a cost cutting measure by GP.

In the beginning (Feb 2017), the players paid a %fee to PayPal for a cash out. After a while (I don't remember the date), GP absorbed the players fee. That was a good deal for the players.

So maybe the cash out fee associated with Worldpay is less than with PayPal.

I don't believe there is some nefarious plan on GP's part.

Yes Netspend

Maybe they were talking to me, I'm Kyle! I simply replied to their Paypal is going away email asking for them process a withdrawal my entire balance immediatelly. They informed me this could be done, but my account would have to be closed which I agreed to.

There is zero percent chance Global Poker is this stupid (although I wouldn't put it past them actually). The small fee they pay (if they even paid a fee and didn't sent it as friends/family), they made that up instantly in their insane rake.

Most likely scenario is PayPal realized they were gambling company due to charge backs, didn't want to absorb the risk and suspended their account or gave them timeframe to move on. I'd imagine they're very low on available funds and depending on new deposits at the moment, thus the delay tactics etc. Anyone who plays on the site still is a fool, even if "games are amazing".