Hopefully a rep can expedite this for the good of us all, Rebuild that faith in your brand! I've waited so long to be able to come back and play on your site

High stakes action needs ya man. There's always 5 nit regs battling it out with a fish. Quiet boring at times, but I still rail for entertainment when low on tables.

still no response besides automated emails, rather frustrating honestly especially considering you would think this post would light a flame under them and the article written on the rakeback site

Hey BeHumble!

Just to update you, we have requested confirmation from PayPal that your account has been opened and are waiting to hear back from them.

We need to wait until they confirm that your account is operational before we can do anything.

Have a nice day and I look forward to having some news soon!

Joey

I thought this was sorted, but paypal closed my account down permanently. I have no other way I know of to receive the other 50,000 still owed to me by VGW holdings aka Global Poker

I wonder if GP would allow you to P2P transfer. If so you could sell your funds. Not the best solution but it would be better to have is as an option then not.

Good Luck with getting your funds !

Sad. This needs to be resolved. I'm a micro donk, but I'll be keeping the minimum on GP and withdrawing some of my bankroll until this is resolved and/or other payment processing methods are added.

myself and a few others ive linked to this thread have done the same...most think the replies from the rep over this matter are ridiculous.

nope, replies for anything aren't to be expected. We are all just supposed to be happy with the $ spent on ads on fb and to pay paypal to not do what happened to OP. I'm obv playing devils advocate here and i agree with what i quoted to be clear, this is absurd. Side note thanks to OP for funding so much marketing for the rest of us very generous of you! obv sarcasm..

NVG thread warning players and pressuring 2+2 to take down their advertisements until paid could be in order.... If they are going to treat someone with $50K frozen like this, they shouldn't be allowed to advertise here, imo.

glad it came from somebody other than me and a respected member at that. I've been saying the bolded part for a month or so now. But we have no stake i the game Fresh cuz u and i arent paying 2+2. ill be shocked if your post isnt deleted as soon as a gp mod or bobo sees it.

I just saw at the bottom of the page that Rich Muny from the PPA is a mod in this subforum, how or why I have no idea but that may be a good contact point to get things handled?

I'm not sure that you've thought this through. Or at least I hope you haven't, because if you have and still think this makes sense, I'm not sure what to say.

Here's how I understand things, and if I have anything wrong, I'm happy to be corrected.

Generally speaking, players are being paid in a timely fashion. In fact, this is the only serious complaint I've seen recently about someone not able to get their money.

So we have this one case, and the issue, from what I understand, is that Paypal has closed his account. Not Global - Paypal. Now, of course this is an issue that Global should be making an effort to work on with him, since apparently there is no other way to get him his money at the current time. But from what I understand in this thread, they have been working on it. In fact, as of a week ago, it appeared the problem may have been solved. Unfortunately, yesterday OP posted that Paypal has closed his account again. Once again, not Global, but Paypal.

As a result of this, you think we should pull all of Global's advertising less than 15 hours after OP posted this update. None of us know the full story. Has OP caused any of these issues? Is this all down to incompetence at Paypal? Did Global **** something up? A combination of all three? None of us know. Does it really make sense to you that we'd be pulling their advertising right now?

If that was our criteria, we'd have no major advertisers left, as companies like Party and Stars would tell us where to go after we pulled their advertising each time a player brought forward an issue that didn't get resolved to their satisfaction in a couple of weeks.

Is this a serious issue? Of course it is. One I'll continue to monitor. But it also could be much more complicated than any of us understand. Unfortunately, we've seen many circumstances where players had an issue with a site that never has been resolved to their satisfaction - much of the time, it became apparent that the player had done something wrong, but other times, it wasn't so clear. We don't pull advertising every time that happens. Doesn't mean we'd never do it, of course.

All that said, if you still think this is worthy of a thread asking us to pull their advertising, I'm not here to tell you that you can't. I think you'd be wasting your time, and such an idea would be hugely premature, but that's up to you. However, it wouldn't belong in NVG, but in About the Forums.

Yes, I'm sure there's a long list of things that should be not in the least bit surprising, that would shock you. Given that I've got pretty much no history of deleting reasonable on-topic criticism, the only reason I don't find your shock surprising is because, well, it's you. Hopefully you can get over the shock that his post is not only not deleted, but responded to.

No. Rich is a mod in the Internet Poker forum only so he is able to edit the PPA's Poker Action Plan thread, and this is a child forum of that one which automatically makes him a moderator of this forum. It's basically in name only, and he has nothing to do with the forum.

His post just illustrates the problem with a site that only pays out in PayPal. The fact that 2+2 is advertising a site like this given PayPals history with gambling is what I'm concerned about, not the fact that this pay out wasn't paid. This also has been going on for many months, if you haven't read through the thread, it isn't a new situation. The site is very small, I doubt there is a huge % of people trying to cash out large sums of money. There is a difference between paying a thousand or two here and there and $50,000 at one time, right?

Given the loopholes that they so prouldly jump through you really think it's a good idea to promote players going here? What happens when PayPal decides they don't want to deal with this quasi "legal" site anymore? With such little history and the big red flag of using PayPal as their only processor it just seems questionable to want to involve 2+2 in such thing. You guys gladly took Lock Pokers money too for a long time despite the red flags, look how well that turned out.

OK, that's fair. In that case, this thread hasn't really changed anything - it sounds like you would have recommended we never work with this site in the first place. Obviously we don't agree on that, but I understand where you're coming from.

Of course. But I think it's a great deal more than a thousand or two here and there. Regardless, I'm not disagreeing this thread is highlighting an important issue.

Again, I appreciate your point of view on this, and this is the reason we let our advertisers know that fair criticism will be welcome in their threads/forums - we're not all going to agree on the risk involved, but our members can decide for themselves based on information provided by all parties.

Well, I'd disagree with you on this, but I know there's a range of opinions on when we should have pulled the plug on Lock, and you're not the only one that feels this way. I wasn't involved in that decision, but I don't have an issue with 2+2's timing on that.

We can find other sites that advertised with us and didn't work out. Minted Poker. Full Tilt. I'm sure we can think of a few others. And then on the other side we have Stars, Party, 888, and more.

No question that there has historically been risk involved with any online poker site, especially those that serve the US. I've always said that players should be cautious and do their research. Don't risk more than you can afford.

I don't want to squelch discussion, but I also don't want to get too far off topic either, so I'm hoping we can move back to the topic at hand.

im not even going to address bobo's weekly damage control multiquote single post addressing mainly me, back to the topic at hand.

So if im understanding correctly bobo and the couple gp mods that havent logged in here for a few days are the only people us members are talking to? Whats going on with this situation and have or will players be rebated for the collusion in the stts from the accounts that were blocked and outed here?

side note why is bobo even here or concerned is he just a person with too much time on his hands or is 2+2 paying him? does anybody still think bobo is here for free out of the kindness of his heart, and who gave him this pedestal i personally find it and him a mockery of our community. He lives in canada according to his info he doesnt even play on gp.

Just to be clear the only reason im here and id guess this is true for many others is that 2+2 has a monopoly on the poker forums, not because i like you or agree with anything that happens here. Its the wall street journal of poker media ill give u that but i still find it and admins and owners repulsive. I am here because I have to be not because I want to be.

and thats honest constructive criticism or whatever u wanna call it. delete this or bury it as you will but the fact u said if FreshThyme made a NVG thread about this OP and linking it and you immediately said youd bury it in a subforum that ive never even heard of let alone visited as im sure is the case with many others showed your true colors imo. god bless you.

If paypal decides they dont want to deal with global anymore cant global just implement bitcoin withdrawals?

no not according to them. OP offered to fly to Australia and accept cash in hand and they weren't able to accommodate that. He said early in the thread on the 1st page or 2

bitcoin cashier costs $, gp most likely has some kinda deal for reduced fees with pp in line with their overall business model, allowing them to adv on fb and give away $.

Was told by Global Rep "For arguments sake though, let's assume PayPal wasn't an option. There are other options we can use so there is nothing to be concerned about."

This was June 2017. I wanted to know b/c my Paypal account had been shut down in the past when I was sent "gambling" money.

Pretty raw to rip someone off for 50 G's. Can't really blame 2+2 though.

What's stopping them now?

Bawls, you're not helping, just stop posting bro.

how and why, and not gonna happen. I see you on the wpn subforum and i respect it but what would help, how should I act since you brought it up? I thought I was doing really well recently actually maybe im too honest, raw, blunt and right for most but..?

For one, bobo is one of the most sensible mods here, but not gonna derail any longer.