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Originally Posted by tarheelfan72
They did eventually return the SC after escalation, but Jesus most of you are just ****ing morons.
I have no idea how you could defend a poker site for having a policy like this. Good luck making it through life this stupid. And enjoy reading every single TOS before you click on it.
Wow are you dense. This is some wild projecting. You're the one that can't be bothered with TOS and can't be bothered to read their emails, even emails with attention grabbing subject lines about account balance forfeiture. But yes, we're all the stupid morons.
No one is "defending the site" beyond stating the painfully obvious... they are enforcing their TOS, and not in a secretive or shady way. They tried to warn you. You just refused to listen.
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Originally Posted by tarheelfan72
And I respectfully disagree that burying a clause in a ten page TOS that is unlike any other site I have ever played somehow makes this anything different than theft.
Since you can't be bothered with any terms of service, this is not a surprising bad take. Every site has an inactivity clause like this. They have to have some method in place in their TOS to deal with inactive accounts, as this is a frequent issue sites deal with. Someone may pass away and the account is never accessed again. More commonly, players may lose and leave, never to return, with a few pennies or dollars in their account. This can add up to a lot of accounting over time if there's no agreed upon method to terminate the account and zero the balance. The terms differ from site to site, but this is a very common clause with gambling sites. They can't reasonably be expected to keep an inactive accounts balance intact until the end of time.
That being said, Global's 90 days term is extremely aggressive. I've said that here before in the past. Before global I don't think I'd heard of one less than a year (not just poker sites, but sports books, etc. as well). I am not a fan of this aggressive a timeline, in fact I think it's pretty crappy. But the broader policy itself is not out of line, even if the the timeline of 90 days is way more aggressive than the industry standards.
With a quick google search, it took me about 5 minutes to find these terms from 4 other poker sites (in no particular order, I just clicked through the first 4 that came up for me). The terms are much less aggressive than 90 days, but the over arching theory is the same here... if your account goes inactive, eventually they zero it out.
WSOP.com:
8.4 If You do not access Your Account by 'logging on' to Your Account using Your Account name and password for any consecutive period of twelve months Your account will be considered a "dormant account". The user will be notified periodically via email of their inactivity and remaining funds. Once an account falls into the "dormant account" status, a user can no longer log in with their account name and password. The user must contact support and ask for the account restriction to be removed. The twelve-month period will run from the date of Your last login to Your account. In the case of a dormant account, the Company will levy a monthly administration fee at a rate of USD $4.99 per month commencing on the date that it became dormant. The administration fee shall be deducted from the dormant account commencing from the last day of the twelfth month in which the account is inactive and on a monthly basis thereafter, until the balance of the account has reached zero. In the event that You login to Your account during the period during which the administration fee is levied, the Company will cease to levy the administration fee but shall not be obligated to return to You any monies already deducted from the account at such time.
Ignition:
3.7. Your Account will be marked as dormant if you have not made a deposit, a withdrawal or engaged in any gaming activity for a period of 18 months. At 17 months of inactivity, we will send an email notice to the email address on file, advising that your Account balance will be set to zero, 30 days after the notice. If the Account still remains unused following this notice the account balance will be zeroed out.
Pokerstars Michigan:
4.8
You acknowledge and agree that, if your Gaming Account is "active" (i.e. you have logged into your Gaming Account at any time during the prior consecutive 36 month period), monies deposited by you in your Gaming Account are held in a trust account on your behalf and are considered to be User's deposits. In the event that your Gaming Account is "inactive" (i.e. you have not logged into your Gaming Account for a consecutive 36 month period), Provider will be entitled to deactivate your Gaming Account, and you will forfeit the entire outstanding balance and any pending wagers and such balance, once forfeited, will not be returned.
ACR:
9. DORMANT or INACTIVE ACCOUNTS/ACCESS FEE: On or after the last day each calendar month, ACR shall be entitled to suspend any User account which has not had any log in activity or game play for the prior 12-month period. In such event, the balance of any funds balance in said account(s) shall be retained by ACR in a pooled segregated suspense account and maintained for a period of 60 days thereafter. ACR shall give notice to the User that his/her account has been inactive for more than 12 months. Such notice shall be conclusively presumed to have been received by the User if sent by ACR by email to the email address of record provided by the User for said account. In the event that a User has opted-out from receiving emails from Americas Cardroom, the User shall be deemed to have waived any and all notice hereunder. In the event that a User shall validly claim said balance of suspense account funds within the 60-day holding period, ACR shall verify the identity and entitlement of said claimant (if any), may require an account holder to execute a written acknowledgement of any deposits funded by credit cards, and, thereafter shall pay the portion of the suspense account due to such User. At the expiration of the 60 Day Holding Period, all such balance amounts which remain unclaimed in the suspense account without an active log-in for another period of 3 months shall escheat to ACR as an Access Fee and compensation for account maintenance and having provided User access to the Games during the 12 months prior to the Holding Period.