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05-11-2018 , 05:11 PM
Why was it deleted? I didn't break any rules, it was a genuine thread and question.
05-11-2018 , 05:51 PM
Did you post suspected screen names of the colluders?
05-11-2018 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by shawnb4595
Did you post suspected screen names of the colluders?


Yes he did
05-11-2018 , 06:12 PM
So I can repost the thread minus the players names?
05-11-2018 , 06:34 PM
Well from what I have read the mods and Global admin have stated in these threads to keep screen names out of them. E-mail straight to Global support instead. Just in case the colluding, chip dumping, cheating, suspected bots etc. are a misunderstanding of some sort.
05-11-2018 , 06:34 PM
Here's the deletion reason:

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Thread deleted by GlobalPoker_Joey
Reason: Allegation made about player. Please contact support@globalpoker.com due to no witch hunt policy
05-11-2018 , 10:16 PM
Hey 3nutz you show up in these forums with your first post admitting you are a recreational losing player who lacks competence then post this hand tagging cheater to two players when the hand is completely standard except for the part where you called. If there was any cheating involved in that hand wouldn't it have involved you? Think about that for a min... Feel free to post the hand in the PLO forums without screen names if you want to know peoples' opinion if there was anything fishy involved.
05-12-2018 , 07:13 PM
Here is the hand in question. I'm questioning the betting pattern. If the short stack wanted to get it all in he would have bet the pot instead of a calculated bet. The big stack with aces would have also bet pot. Like I said in my original post, that was one of many hands I witnessed. Honestly couldn't care less about losing the hand, just pointing out what I think looks like collusion. Not being able to name the players involved, just means other players can't look out for it.

Again like I said in my original post, I was gambling this hand. Not a winning online player, but I'm cool with that. Live is a different story, just don't have the discipline for online games, but do enjoy them.

https://play.globalpoker.com/poker-c...4b0554a7a3c876
05-12-2018 , 10:39 PM
maybe they're just gambling same as you? why can you make an odd play and they cant?
05-12-2018 , 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by sirswish6
maybe they're just gambling same as you? why can you make an odd play and they cant?
There were multiple hands where they would try and trap a player in between them with strange bets pre. When one of the players wasn't involved in the hand, the bets would usually always be pot sized bets. I didn't keep a history of the other hands, was just watching. Then this hand happened and for me I suspect collusion. Obviously without the other hands in question it's hard to have solid proof.
05-13-2018 , 12:10 AM
ok so youre showing us one hand that would only make sense if it had the context of more hands? wtf is the point of that? get your **** together man
05-13-2018 , 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by sirswish6
ok so youre showing us one hand that would only make sense if it had the context of more hands? wtf is the point of that? get your **** together man
Don't need a point, don't like my thread, then piss off. Pretty simple.
05-14-2018 , 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 3nutz
Don't need a point, don't like my thread, then piss off. Pretty simple.
Post in a public forum, receive public feedback, don't like that leave the internet. Pretty simple.
05-14-2018 , 02:42 PM
hand looks totally normal to me
05-14-2018 , 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by cpar1
Hey 3nutz you show up in these forums with your first post admitting you are a recreational losing player who lacks competence then post this hand tagging cheater to two players when the hand is completely standard except for the part where you called. If there was any cheating involved in that hand wouldn't it have involved you? Think about that for a min... Feel free to post the hand in the PLO forums without screen names if you want to know peoples' opinion if there was anything fishy involved.
Did you even look at the hand?

3nutz is correct that the hand looks like collusion against him.

I don't see why people like you clutter the forum, attacking a poster for pointing out possible collusion, which is currently rampant on Global Poker.

Nothing about the hand is standard. One hand can never prove collusion, but depending on how these players ordinarily play, and the OP says this is only one of many examples, it is definitely suspect and warrants further investigation.
05-15-2018 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by sirswish6
maybe they're just gambling same as you? why can you make an odd play and they cant?
The OP's play isn't indicative of collusion as he is calling off his stack, not squeezing anyone, like the other 2 players in the hand did, which given the original 3 bettor's hand, could easily indicate collusion.
05-15-2018 , 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingTeletubby
The OP's play isn't indicative of collusion as he is calling off his stack, not squeezing anyone, like the other 2 players in the hand did, which given the original 3 bettor's hand, could easily indicate collusion.
I watched this the first time and I see nothing here but bad play


Idiot one raises

Idiot two Calls

Guy with best hand three bets

Idiot one four bets

Idiot two calls

Guy with best hand puts Idiot two all in

Guess what idiot two does ? He calls of his whole stack and loses yet again and now it's collusion?

Not buying it


Oh and wait for it . Guy with worst hand wins and guy with best hand gets the side pot . Go Global
05-15-2018 , 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingTeletubby
Did you even look at the hand?

3nutz is correct that the hand looks like collusion against him.

I don't see why people like you clutter the forum, attacking a poster for pointing out possible collusion, which is currently rampant on Global Poker.

Nothing about the hand is standard. One hand can never prove collusion, but depending on how these players ordinarily play, and the OP says this is only one of many examples, it is definitely suspect and warrants further investigation.
He was attached bc he publicly named/accused players of cheating. If you play PLO this situation comes up often where the big stack raises an amount hoping the short stack shoves so if the other big stack calls he can push him off his equity holding AAxx. The OP took the bait and got mad he lost.
05-15-2018 , 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingTeletubby
The OP's play isn't indicative of collusion as he is calling off his stack, not squeezing anyone, like the other 2 players in the hand did, which given the original 3 bettor's hand, could easily indicate collusion.
usually an idiot is just an idiot, not a criminal mastermind
05-15-2018 , 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by The Agnoostic
I watched this the first time and I see nothing here but bad play


Idiot one raises

Idiot two Calls

Guy with best hand three bets

Idiot one four bets

Idiot two calls

Guy with best hand puts Idiot two all in

Guess what idiot two does ? He calls of his whole stack and loses yet again and now it's collusion?

Not buying it


Oh and wait for it . Guy with worst hand wins and guy with best hand gets the side pot . Go Global
You probably should watch the hand again.

9753 single suit is the hand that originally squeezes.
05-15-2018 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingTeletubby
You probably should watch the hand again.

9753 single suit is the hand that originally squeezes.
You should probably read my post again . While you are at it you should probably note that OP Called off like $700.00 when he clearly should have folded .

So the worst hand won and the best hand won the side pot . In all reality who cares . It is one hand and OP admitted to be a losing player and occasionally makes bad calls here.

Trust and believe I'm the last person who would defend anything about Global Poker but this simply isn't an issue in this spot.
05-15-2018 , 03:52 PM
I don't dispute my play was bad. I got caught up in the hand and thought feck it, I'm gonna gamble here. The biggest flag for me was the short stacks re raise. If he wanted to get it all in, he bets the pot. I've never seen two players strategically raise the perfect amounts like that if they weren't working together. The money and losing the pot I couldn't care less about. I just wanted to make others aware of what I considered cheating and collusion. It's all good if people have a difference of opinion, let's be adults about it though.
05-15-2018 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 3nutz
Don't need a point, don't like my thread, then piss off. Pretty simple.
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Originally Posted by 3nutz
It's all good if people have a difference of opinion, let's be adults about it though.
proud of you
05-15-2018 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sirswish6
proud of you
Thanks
05-15-2018 , 09:55 PM
Just another thought regarding the hand. I know if I have aces in that spot with two players in the hand, I'm betting the pot. No way I want to play against 8 cards.

      
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