Honestly there's plenty of times I start to play, drink a cup of coffee and then have to recreate the Brown's perfect season, requiring me to be afk for a few. Unless it's often and repeatedly you don't really know what's going on. It'd be great to be able to make a note on a player that just left but I don't see global making that happen. The note system is pretty rudimentary. If you're on multiple tables with the same person the notes don't update across tables.

Hit and Running is pointless and is for bad players. Does it suck? Sure. Everytime Uruk doubles up and leaves, the table gets sad. Reality is though they'll give it back and you'll meet other bad players. Just have to live with it..it's an element of the game.

That was not the scenario or I would not have brought the issue up. I'm talking about preserving the game as a reg. I don't want to play with regs who are hitting and running as most recreational/fish/fun players will tell you.

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Agreed...I'm basing the experience on not being a pro and wanting to be able to play and not have to worry about pros on the site that hit and run. This is one of the sites that I enjoy playing on and that's why I brought it up.

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lol

pros are, by a million miles, the people LEAST likely to hit and run

you want to play people that HnR, they are bad and will inevitably come back at some point

Seems like you hold the common gambling fallacy where people are like I DOUBLE UP AND THEN QUIT IMMEDIATELY and think that helps in any way.

Please explain how I hold this "fallacy" lol. I don't play the game for the long term, like most in this forum. I play a mix of online and live so there is never going to be enough hands played for the variance to equal out. Maybe our views on a "pro" is different. Tizull, for example, streams on Twitch, I don't watch his streams but I'm going to assume he is a pro. So if he hits and runs a game, which he did, a recreational player shouldn't be upset? Again, you have to look at the scenario from both sides honestly. I don't play enough to want to play with people who hit and run. You, maybe so, because you play a lot of hours. I don't do that hence why I have an issue with it.

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What on earth makes you think a good reg would ever hit and run? They want to play with you as long as possible LOL. I fail to see how anything you've said seems logical in any way.

How is it not logical? Being a good or bad reg is irrelevant to me. People are not going to want to play with "pros" who hit and run is the point I'm making. So if it happens often, the player pool will continue to shrink and you guys will be left playing with each other. That's my point.

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Okay so where did he do this? The video linked by Boozed a few posts up is a 2 hour session, he just busted his last tournament and I think usually quits after that happens. He won a big pot right at the end to triple up and although he says "I think we're going to hit and run here cause we just busted the last tournament what a great way to end our session"... what he did is actually not a hit and run, he had been playing for hours and according to what he said, he was stuck until that last hand, it only got him even.

And to my knowledge Tizull is not a pro anyway. Like TakeNotes and SitNSpin said, pro's are by far the least likely to actually hit and run. They expect to have an edge to begin with, then winning a huge pot only serves to give them further edge through psychological factors.

I didn't watch the video tbh...but if he said he's hitting and running and you're saying he's not than the convo is pointless. This clearly goes back to the differences with live and online play. There is no way for me or anyone to know that you've been playing for x amount of hours and then come to the table I'm at, play 10 min, win a hand and then leave. The people at that table would think you are hit and running. Do you see how that can be perceived?

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"The Browns perfect season" Nice. I will remember that when I'm "Dropping off the Cosby's at the pool'.

Yes, but he was at the table playing for 2 hours not 10 minutes. He said it as an off hand comment, probably because he had just won a big pot when he was going to be finishing his session anyway.

But we agree on one thing, this convo is pointless. You came on here to call Tizull out for hit and running, and that's not what happened.

FWIW I understand why a rec player would get pissed if they think someone is hit and running them. It doesn't bother me, for the reasons others gave itt. But I do get it that recs think it's some big no-no. If you ever get to SoCal I suggest trying Lake Elsinore, I hear they allow rec thugs to follow hit and runners to the parking garage and assault them to discourage the practice of all the pro hit and runners.

I'm not going to play at any table that has a "pro" on it. And if I ever had to, I would hope that he "hit and runs" after twenty minutes instead of gradually squeezing every dollar from me after 3 hours.

The site has been doing absolutely WONDERFUL ecosystem wise from the day it came out until right now. You crying about getting hit & run doesn't change anything and never would. Go cry somewhere else about illogical things that don't matter.

How do you classify a "pro"? Somehow who has big stacks? Someone who plays a lot? Very broad statement and many of the guys you see with stacks who play a lot likely may not even be winning or winning that much. Don't be fooled my illusion. Sit, dominate, repeat.

For the sake of this discussion, I'll define a "poker pro" as a player good enough at poker to make a living playing it.

Several posters ITT have said that the vast majority of the time, the "hit and runners" are bad players. Good players don't typically hit and run; they sit at the table for hours gradually bleeding the weaker players at the table. Leaving the table is =EV, sticking around is almost invariably +EV for a pro as I am using the term.

Wait...so this thread was started to call someone out for something that OP only heard that he did, but actually doesn't know first hand if it happened (and apparently it never did)? Or did I miss something?

That sounds about right to me.

Yes. Pointless thread is pointless.

Please lock immediately.

Let me bring up one thing before this thread is locked.

Hitting and running in general. It's a slippery slope. We do not know the context and environment in which people play. This is why we go off our own notes and our own experience.

I used to play only tournaments, but then we had a kid. Haven't played a tourney in six years now. I can only play cash because i have to have the ability to stop on a dime. Sometimes that's right after a big pot is won. It's not often but it has happened...

- to the OP -
It's very scary that someone can post a screen name here and put a players' name in a public place without actual proof that this is some kind of consistent act this player is committing. This will affect how people perceive and play or 'not' play the listed player.

This is what notes are for. Take a note on what happened with that player. If you're going to go further and publicly accuse a player or state they've done something and you don't know '100%' if what you're saying is the full truth then you're posting a 'message fragment'. That's speculating and treating it as fact. No Bueno.

"If we're not winning we're learning"

If that were true, I'd know more than Phil Ivey by now.

just wanted to add before this gets locked that my comments about LERC shoulda been left out by me, my info was dated by 5-10 yrs and its cleaned up a lot there in many ways. It used to be a glorified garage game with a license but that's no longer the case now it's pretty nice and ran well imo.

haha no you have it backwards, don't try to come to "their" room and hit and run on the local regs and expect it to go over well is more like it just to be clear or how it used to be and iI'm sure that's not the only place with that sort of underground culture.. I think you knew what i meant though not sure why u felt the need to post that.

and one more edit, if you think theres a parking garage you're giving the room WAY too much credit lol.

If you don't like when someone hits and runs (granted that is actually what happened), just write his name down and next time you come across him, put in the note that he hit and run. Then when you see him in the future, you can just get up and go to a different table. Hope this helps.