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11-19-2022 , 05:43 PM
Hey guys, I figured another post was due for a lot of reasons. I'm muted by self-opting out on global and cannot really smoothly communicate with anyone on here so I thought I'd make a post that hopefully gets circled around a little bit for those who want/care.


First and foremost, we need to talk about the RTA thing.

The absolute first thing I should do is apologize...again. I was in the wrong. Of course part of it was a severe misguiding by someone I looked up to as he was my sort of gateway to starting to get into poker seriously. But, I should've been able to avoid the situation altogether...you'd be correct in that.

But, I ask you take a step back with me for a moment. I used the software and only barely used it for a couple of months nearly FIVE years ago at this point. (Very often I wouldn't bother or would just impulsively say "screw that that doesn't makes sense to me" and would do the opposite it recommended. Most importantly, this is long in the past.

I'm asking for some sort of sympathy and a very baseline level of forgiveness and to be blunt, shutting up about it. All I ask for most of you is to just stop talking about it in chat. There are still times where a handful of people (I'm not going to put names and start witch hunting) are literally educating fish about what I did years ago, what it is, and that I'm "probably cheating right now" and telling people to close the table entirely. It's still absurd. There are also simple needles like "oh spork make sure you check the solver here" "spork what size does solver use here"

If you are saying these under the belief that I find it amusing and can chuckle about it, I just don't. I very much am trying to shut out a notable mistake from my past and move on and people really like shoving it back in my face. Just imagine an inverse scenario where you're the one who made a choice years ago that you notably regret and people constantly throw it back at you years later. Not a good time.

Can we please just stop? I'm by no means trying to make friends. You can dislike me all you want for that decision I made and how I've acted to people in chats, that's fine and I would do the same to be honest. But can we just stop talking about it in chats, crashing games, even telling players they shouldn't play when I haven't looked at RTA software in years? It's getting old.


Secondly, mental

I'm going to be completely honest here. My mental for years has been a complete disaster and mental health problems escalating to levels I'm not going to elaborate on but you can use your imagination.

I'm not looking for sympathy on this, but to explain why I "keep getting smoked" has something to do with the neverending cycle with me of:

1) Crush 6-max relentlessly for 15-20bb/100 via Ignition, Global, BetOnline when my mental "needs" to be good or I go broke.
2) Get overly comfortable when back at hs thinking I don't have to try anymore
3) Inevitably start downswinging
4) Go play 100/200, 200/400, or in a somewhat recent case, 300/600, all times with maybe 2 or 3 buyins to my name max.
5) Obviously this doesn't go well when imploding
6) Go "Ah, well that was ******ed, time to go back to step 1 and fill my screen with 200plo tables until I'm rolled 6 figs again in 3mo and able to play T/20

It's really brutal, and has been a massive toll on my mental because I know with full confidence (without trying to sound like an ego prick) that my raw skill in a vacuum is 99.5%+ percentile in my pools but often I end up blasting/not realizing that potential due to my spiraling mental. And someone who is 80th percentile in raw ability like your average game selecting very tight reg who is very consistent and realizes his ability in full almost always is better than my situation where I can be 99th percentile in raw skill but decide to implode and play like a 30th percentile or even lower. I know my raw skill is of that level due to my work with my top hs crusher reg coach in 2021 and expansion of that on my own in 2022. But none of it matters if I "death spiral" To be honest, writing this makes me feel like a "who cares" but at least this has me feel like I'm speaking to someone.

Regarding CTB and these "HU matches"

Firstly, they're barely matches.
Second of all, you're all welcome to have a favorite but if it's because you are still upset and pitchforking at me due to the rta thing from the first topic, let's just chill shall we?
Thirdly, for everyone saying he "crushed" me, not that I care that much but we are about breakeven. When we first started again I had a great start because this was before my most recent 200/400 episode that of course went poorly because who is playing well when they have maybe 2.5buyins to that game to their name? After that implosion I went and played him because I know barring mental I am crushing him. The issue is my mental just hit a new floor after the 200/400 and managed to play like someone who just lost 80%+ of his net worth playing 200/400.

I fully intend to play him again with a healthy amount of buyin stop loss after I take another 3 months to roll through plo200 up to plo2k until I have well in the 6 figure range...again.
I know with full confidence I'm beating him if I'm not losing the mental.

Regarding him in general, I think he's very good at some things and very weak at others.

What he's very good at comes from his experience, allegedly he was one of the first SNE's back in the day. (Supernova Elites) That's not nothing, playing for a long time, possibly 10s of millions of hands has its' perks.

I believe his strengths come in the form of:

- I saved tons of hands of his that I knew 100% or close to were blunders/mistakes in theory and were nowhere near accurate. HOWEVER, I then simply asked myself "does this work well vs a population of bad midstakes american regs and fish?" The answer was yes nearly every time. He has very very very good intuition on how to autopilot crush a pool of non-developed players.

Edit: No, I will not share any of these reads publicly. I believe sharing detailed info about a player publicly is very bad etiquette. I dislike the guy for still bringing up rta, egoing me in chat, following me around to tables...but I'm not going to post the large sample of saved hands, the solutions that show how much of a mistake they are, show what the consistent themes are, and how to properly stop getting your ass kicked by him. I think that would be incredibly rude. This is also a good example in my opinion of "yea I'm not a huge fan of the guy for reasons a,b,c but I'm not going to further escalate

- Endurance: This comes with time and gets easier when your thought process is minimal/autopiloted but mostly with time and making yourself play more.

I believe his weakness comes in the form of:

- Accuracy: Like stated above, he's making heaps of theoretical mistakes that take a solid amount of knowledge and awareness to not only spot, but properly know how not to fall victim to and THEN punish it. The beauty about how he plays is only truly strong, capable players are beating him.

This may be ironic coming from me, but I also think he's walking on thin ice with his confidence and ego to play anyone and everyone. That being said, so few people on global will punish it because global has been notoriously weak. What he does is brilliant as long as he's careful enough to know when he's beat. (Which in this pool is surprisingly rare)

My approach is going to be to repair my mental, keep on this new gym habit, focus entirely on my self-care and forgiving myself. Past that, keeping up with the same training I've always done and I know I will cruise through every 6max stake until I'm rolled for hs again. After a bit of hu prep work during that time I will be setting aside a healthy amount to use as a comfortable stop loss to play him HU 2k until he is wiped, pays a degree of respect and quits, or I hit the stop loss. I know I'm winning lots with the right prep and most importantly repairing my mental to stop imploding randomly.

I hope I can try to get at least a handful of people to bury the hatchet, even if you still choose to not like me.


Lastly, I invite anyone to add me on discord to either get your last bit of flaming out, ask me anything, or really anything to be honest. I am even willing to briefly preview how I train for those still skeptical that I'm RTA-ing. I can demonstrate strong accuracy with very fast decisions in training.

My discord: Spork#1337

Last edited by TheSpork; 11-19-2022 at 05:56 PM.
11-19-2022 , 06:48 PM
I wouldn't expect much here my man. This is online poker, where Justin Bonomo is still occasionally being grieved for multiaccounting what, 16 years ago? You wronged a small pool of players a lot more recently than that and are still making excuses and justifications for your actions. Your expectations of grace and forgiveness are optimistic.

I hope you are able to move on from this with or without forgiveness otherwise peace may elude you for a long time.
11-19-2022 , 06:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by loveskunk
I wouldn't expect much here my man. This is online poker, where Justin Bonomo is still occasionally being grieved for multiaccounting what, 16 years ago? You wronged a small pool of players a lot more recently than that and are still making excuses and justifications for your actions. Your expectations of grace and forgiveness are optimistic.

I hope you are able to move on from this with or without forgiveness otherwise peace may elude you for a long time.
Figured I may as well try, a fair amount of people that were after me forgave me, realized I learned and even joked that "it's obvious you're not rta when you play fast and still do dumb **** sometimes" which is hilariously true.

I suppose the very small section on being misguided comes off as a justification rather than a small part of the equation I would like people to attempt to understand.

After reflecting on posting this, I did realize I'm mostly going to have to do what I'm supposed to and ignore people while they go off and pretend like they don't exist. It's not helping my bottom line and already swingy mental to care. All that I can control from here on out is knowing I'm doing everything completely ethically.

Thanks for the input.
11-19-2022 , 09:21 PM
The first I heard about your past behavior is here, in your post. To the best of my knowledge I've never met you in-game, so consider these comments as from a stranger who you might one day encounter.

Your post is asking for a change in behavior from several others. This is problematic because those people have no incentive to change. The first reason is that there is a profit motive: you've given all of your opponents an easy way to tilt you, and tilted opponents are easy to exploit. Second, your post is intentionally abrasive; you introduce yourself as a friend/enemy, suggest that others should be "shutting up about it" and insist (without evidence) that you are better than almost everyone. None of these things make it easy for anyone to change their behavior towards you.

With regard to your request that everyone see you in a new light, consider this: none of us can verify your change in behavior. We can't see you play, can't examine the contents of your computer, and can't know your mind. We'll never know whether you (or anyone else on the site) is cheating. Your past will haunt you as it haunts all of your opponents. That may not feel fair, but it is real.

I hope you find help for your mental health issues off-table. You will surely never find it among your poker playing peers because they are neither qualified nor incentivized to help.

Last edited by AmiableFool; 11-19-2022 at 09:28 PM.
11-20-2022 , 12:22 AM
Once you made it seem easy for you to go from 200nl to having 6fig net worth when ur down to nothing was laughable.. that being said even tho I don't comment about ur cheating anymore and had u muted regardless (due to ur insufferable chat), I will let u rock. Make sure to keep playing legit <3
11-20-2022 , 01:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AmiableFool
The first I heard about your past behavior is here, in your post. To the best of my knowledge I've never met you in-game, so consider these comments as from a stranger who you might one day encounter.

Your post is asking for a change in behavior from several others. This is problematic because those people have no incentive to change. The first reason is that there is a profit motive: you've given all of your opponents an easy way to tilt you, and tilted opponents are easy to exploit. Second, your post is intentionally abrasive; you introduce yourself as a friend/enemy, suggest that others should be "shutting up about it" and insist (without evidence) that you are better than almost everyone. None of these things make it easy for anyone to change their behavior towards you.

With regard to your request that everyone see you in a new light, consider this: none of us can verify your change in behavior. We can't see you play, can't examine the contents of your computer, and can't know your mind. We'll never know whether you (or anyone else on the site) is cheating. Your past will haunt you as it haunts all of your opponents. That may not feel fair, but it is real.

I hope you find help for your mental health issues off-table. You will surely never find it among your poker playing peers because they are neither qualified nor incentivized to help.
To be honest, this is pretty scarily accurate and really makes me worry about myself but I'll do my best not to let it make me feel worse. Thanks for the input but reading back on this thing I whipped up does look really obnoxious with the "friend/enemy" "I'm just gonna make a bunch of money" "I'm better than everyone" like jesus christ what was the actual point of this. I'm debating if deleting this is the better move.
11-20-2022 , 02:06 AM
Ah, regular users cannot close threads. Can I request an admin to close this? I'm not a frequent user here...if it can be closed/removed that'd be great if not I'll just ignore it
11-20-2022 , 02:16 AM
The things you said in your post are generally useful as self-talk. After all, how can we be successful on the table if we don't tell ourselves that we can outplay everyone, that we have good motives, and that we are going to succeed, etc? The friend/enemy line probably had a benign context in your head ("There are no friends at the poker table" etc).

You might be right about removing the post. Your thoughts work as inner monologue but maybe don't play so well in on a public forum. I wish you luck and hope to meet you in battle on the tables one day.
11-20-2022 , 02:27 PM
I'm sympathetic to anyone struggling with any kind of mental health trouble but you got caught cheating, were let back on the site, and are now asking for people to be nicer about it? Cmon stop.
11-20-2022 , 02:46 PM
Regarding CTB and these "HU matches"

Firstly, they're barely matches.

Second of all, you're all welcome to have a favorite but if it's because you are still upset and pitchforking at me due to the rta thing from the first topic, let's just chill shall we?
Thirdly, for everyone saying he "crushed" me, not that I care that much but we are about breakeven. When we first started again I had a great start because this was before my most recent 200/400 episode that of course went poorly because who is playing well when they have maybe 2.5buyins to that game to their name? After that implosion I went and played him because I know barring mental I am crushing him. The issue is my mental just hit a new floor after the 200/400 and managed to play like someone who just lost 80%+ of his net worth playing 200/400.

I fully intend to play him again with a healthy amount of buyin stop loss after I take another 3 months to roll through plo200 up to plo2k until I have well in the 6 figure range...again.

Spork, I'm not gonna respond to anything in this thread except for this. Whenever you're ready, let's play.

I know with full confidence I'm beating him if I'm not losing the mental.

Regarding him in general, I think he's very good at some things and very weak at others.

What he's very good at comes from his experience, allegedly he was one of the first SNE's back in the day. (Supernova Elites) That's not nothing, playing for a long time, possibly 10s of millions of hands has its' perks.

I believe his strengths come in the form of:

- I saved tons of hands of his that I knew 100% or close to were blunders/mistakes in theory and were nowhere near accurate. HOWEVER, I then simply asked myself "does this work well vs a population of bad midstakes american regs and fish?" The answer was yes nearly every time. He has very very very good intuition on how to autopilot crush a pool of non-developed players.

Edit: No, I will not share any of these reads publicly. I believe sharing detailed info about a player publicly is very bad etiquette. I dislike the guy for still bringing up rta, egoing me in chat, following me around to tables...but I'm not going to post the large sample of saved hands, the solutions that show how much of a mistake they are, show what the consistent themes are, and how to properly stop getting your ass kicked by him. I think that would be incredibly rude. This is also a good example in my opinion of "yea I'm not a huge fan of the guy for reasons a,b,c but I'm not going to further escalate

- Endurance: This comes with time and gets easier when your thought process is minimal/autopiloted but mostly with time and making yourself play more.

I believe his weakness comes in the form of:

- Accuracy: Like stated above, he's making heaps of theoretical mistakes that take a solid amount of knowledge and awareness to not only spot, but properly know how not to fall victim to and THEN punish it. The beauty about how he plays is only truly strong, capable players are beating him.

This may be ironic coming from me, but I also think he's walking on thin ice with his confidence and ego to play anyone and everyone. That being said, so few people on global will punish it because global has been notoriously weak. What he does is brilliant as long as he's careful enough to know when he's beat. (Which in this pool is surprisingly rare)

My approach is going to be to repair my mental, keep on this new gym habit, focus entirely on my self-care and forgiving myself. Past that, keeping up with the same training I've always done and I know I will cruise through every 6max stake until I'm rolled for hs again. After a bit of hu prep work during that time I will be setting aside a healthy amount to use as a comfortable stop loss to play him HU 2k until he is wiped, pays a degree of respect and quits, or I hit the stop loss. I know I'm winning lots with the right prep and most importantly repairing my mental to stop imploding randomly.

I hope I can try to get at least a handful of people to bury the hatchet, even if you still choose to not like me.


Lastly, I invite anyone to add me on discord to either get your last bit of flaming out, ask me anything, or really anything to be honest. I am even willing to briefly preview how I train for those still skeptical that I'm RTA-ing. I can demonstrate strong accuracy with very fast decisions in training.

My discord: Spork#1337[/QUOTE]

Last edited by throwaway1million; 11-20-2022 at 03:16 PM. Reason: clarity
11-20-2022 , 07:30 PM
Sounds like cheaters justice to me and I hope it continues. Too bad they can't do you like they did the cheaters in the movie casino!

Once a cheater always a cheater. Take your sob stories to your diary.

PS: Idk or care who you are other than a self admitted cheat. Never heard of you before lol
11-20-2022 , 08:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AJHPoker
Sounds like cheaters justice to me and I hope it continues. Too bad they can't do you like they did the cheaters in the movie casino!

Once a cheater always a cheater. Take your sob stories to your diary.

PS: Idk or care who you are other than a self admitted cheat. Never heard of you before lol

Well then, any mistakes/wrong stances morally/anything you've improved on in your life and fixed and realized you were in the wrong are invalid. Everything you've done in your past is who you are. That's you too if that applies to me. Hope you've never been in the wrong in your life.
11-20-2022 , 09:08 PM
Very spot-on that you posted this and now today are back to berating other players at the Global tables. Others in your POV are back to being either braindead, nits, or possibly using RTA themselves.

The change you want to see starts with you. Treat people how you want to be treated.
11-21-2022 , 06:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSpork
Well then, any mistakes/wrong stances morally/anything you've improved on in your life and fixed and realized you were in the wrong are invalid. Everything you've done in your past is who you are. That's you too if that applies to me. Hope you've never been in the wrong in your life.
I have done plenty wrong but I don't expect forgiveness either. You made your bed now sleep in it
11-23-2022 , 04:32 AM
This guy was caught using RTA and wasn't banned? So he clearly has the software, knows how to use it and we're just supposed to play against him all willy nilly, like he can't be cheating while we're playing? I'll be staying away. Huge red flags for this player.
11-23-2022 , 04:42 AM
SN on Global?
11-23-2022 , 01:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DEFIasco
SN on Global?

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...69/?highlight=

Link to more info. Looks like the guy got caught and sold his entire crew down the river to save his own skin. Not only a cheat but a HUGE snitch as well.

It's a good read you should check it out.
11-24-2022 , 10:09 PM
ItsSpork: leave the table and watch everyone else it'll be like a magic trick

(him typing to the fish)

then he proceeds to call everyone else bumhunters & when I simply link this thread he says this

ItsSpork: quit life
ItsSpork: built like a toothpick and plays a ****ing card game like the biggest nit virgin
ItsSpork: actually kill yourself
ItsSpork: all ****ing instigating
Trichoblast: glad to see uve changed
ItsSpork: and then being upset when I retaliate
Trichoblast: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...-here-1815383/
ItsSpork: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...-here-1815383/
ItsSpork: I'll do it too
ItsSpork: do you think I care?
Trichoblast: yes, yes I do

This guy wants forgiveness but still acts like this? He'll never have mine that's for sure.
11-24-2022 , 11:08 PM
Wow, how toxic is that. Stay off the chat box.
11-25-2022 , 10:37 AM
Lol Jesus Christ would rather play a reg that was using RTA than a reg spouting off to a fish like that and genuinely telling someone to kill themselves.
11-25-2022 , 06:17 PM
Don't worry, I didn't kill myself. I did take his last 5k on global and watch him rage quit after all of this though, so everyone can sleep easy <3
11-26-2022 , 10:42 AM
I wonder if coming here, admitting to cheating and stirring up the forum will get him banned retroactively?
11-26-2022 , 10:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TakeNotesPlease
Don't worry, I didn't kill myself. I did take his last 5k on global and watch him rage quit after all of this though, so everyone can sleep easy <3
You might have his 5k now but he's going to have 100k in a week
11-26-2022 , 12:03 PM
I don't know you. Here's my take. You are like the athlete (say Michael Vick) that commits an atrocious act. People will say that this person deserves a second chance. I agree. What I don't agree with is a second chance in the same (privileged) profession.

So you are a known cheat. You deserve a second chance in life. Just not anywhere near a poker table, virtual or otherwise.....

Last edited by Mr. Big Stack; 11-26-2022 at 12:04 PM. Reason: spelling
11-26-2022 , 05:21 PM
LMAO

      
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