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05-23-2021 , 08:34 PM
There should be a rematch button for heads up games. It benefits the regs more that there are no rematch button after the game is finished. When 2 casuals are playing each other and want to continue they can't because a reg is always waiting in the lobby after.

Another thing that should be fixed is you should only be allowed 1-2 heads up games at a time. There is one reg on there who will sit and every time someone joins him in a 50$ he instantly sits the next table so he is playing all the heads up games when he is on. This is terrible for the game.
05-23-2021 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ArticFox
There should be a rematch button for heads up games. It benefits the regs more that there are no rematch button after the game is finished. When 2 casuals are playing each other and want to continue they can't because a reg is always waiting in the lobby after.

Another thing that should be fixed is you should only be allowed 1-2 heads up games at a time. There is one reg on there who will sit and every time someone joins him in a 50$ he instantly sits the next table so he is playing all the heads up games when he is on. This is terrible for the game.
you spelled arctic wrong
05-23-2021 , 09:58 PM
Well I will be taking my money off. I don't wanna play poker to play the same person every single time I play. Its literally the same person playing all day every day.
05-23-2021 , 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ArticFox
Well I will be taking my money off. I don't wanna play poker to play the same person every single time I play. Its literally the same person playing all day every day.
Just going to throw this out there, there probably isn't a huge player pool for $50 SNGs, they could change whatever you want, you're still going to be playing the same person pretty often regardless
05-23-2021 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Dilly_
Just going to throw this out there, there probably isn't a huge player pool for $50 SNGs, they could change whatever you want, you're still going to be playing the same person pretty often regardless
There is usually 2-3 games running at a time with 3 different people and the same reg... So yeah there is a lot of people playing them. There is one reg sitting 75% time and when he is off there is another one sitting. Not only are they bum hunting but they are doing it in shifts. They are up almost 300k in a year. I'd say there is plenty of action in the games.
05-24-2021 , 10:22 AM
Dude. HU is a trap, you are going to lose a bunch of money to those regs.

Take your money to literally any other format on Global. Tourneys are super soft, cash tables are super soft.
05-24-2021 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by robert_utk
Dude. HU is a trap, you are going to lose a bunch of money to those regs.

Take your money to literally any other format on Global. Tourneys are super soft, cash tables are super soft.
I know hu very well. That is why I'm saying there needs to be a change. There are a lot of people playing hu. But when there is one person taking every lobby it is bad for the format. Nobody wants to play when you can only play the same person every time. A simple rematch button would help a lot. When 2 recs are playing each other and want to keep playing they can't because by the time there game is over a bum hunter is sitting in the lobby waiting.
05-24-2021 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ArticFox
There is usually 2-3 games running at a time with 3 different people and the same reg... So yeah there is a lot of people playing them. There is one reg sitting 75% time and when he is off there is another one sitting. Not only are they bum hunting but they are doing it in shifts. They are up almost 300k in a year. I'd say there is plenty of action in the games.
2-3 games running at a time with a player pool of four, is virtually no volume at all.
05-24-2021 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Dilly_
2-3 games running at a time with a player pool of four, is virtually no volume at all.
There is only allowed to be one lobby at a time on global.... So if you don't know what you are talking about you shouldn't be chiming in defense of something you know nothing about
05-24-2021 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ArticFox
There is only allowed to be one lobby at a time on global.... So if you don't know what you are talking about you shouldn't be chiming in defense of something you know nothing about
It wouldn't make a difference if there was more than one lobby allowed. The reg would register and wait for an opponent, you would register in a different lobby and wait for an opponent, the reg would register for your game and now you'd be playing them.

The point is, if there are only 4 people playing, and one of them is a reg willing to play as many games as possible, you are always going to be playing a huge percentage of your volume against that reg. There needs to be at least more players in the pool than the number of tables the reg plays.

"There's a reg who plays literally every possible SNG at my stakes, and I think that's bumhunting, so Global should give me a way to avoid playing the good players to protect me from their bumhunting"....say that outloud and se e if it sounds crazy to you lol
05-24-2021 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Dilly_
It wouldn't make a difference if there was more than one lobby allowed. The reg would register and wait for an opponent, you would register in a different lobby and wait for an opponent, the reg would register for your game and now you'd be playing them.

The point is, if there are only 4 people playing, and one of them is a reg willing to play as many games as possible, you are always going to be playing a huge percentage of your volume against that reg. There needs to be at least more players in the pool than the number of tables the reg plays.

"There's a reg who plays literally every possible SNG at my stakes, and I think that's bumhunting, so Global should give me a way to avoid playing the good players to protect me from their bumhunting"....say that outloud and se e if it sounds crazy to you lol
It is a site that is supposed to cater to the recreational player. So yeah they should fix it. Again the two main regs have played over 50 thousand games in a year. That's about 150 games a day between just them two in the $50 games. I don't think thats too bad compared to the 3 tables running at prime hours for holdem cash during a tourney series. The site is not in good shape either way when you consider all the free cash they are sending out.
05-25-2021 , 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ArticFox
It is a site that is supposed to cater to the recreational player. So yeah they should fix it. Again the two main regs have played over 50 thousand games in a year. That's about 150 games a day between just them two in the $50 games. I don't think thats too bad compared to the 3 tables running at prime hours for holdem cash during a tourney series. The site is not in good shape either way when you consider all the free cash they are sending out.
I 100% agree with you that $50 HUSNGs where a few regs play the majority of the games are not a very good game. But the point is there isn't anything Global can do to make it a good game. The problem is the player pool isn't big enough or diverse enough talent wise. If on average, there is only 2-3 recs and 1-2 regs playing, the game will never be good.
05-25-2021 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Dilly_
If on average, there is only 2-3 recs and 1-2 regs playing, the game will never be good.
Yes but it's unclear how big the pool is. OP is saying these 2 regs work in shifts, sitting all newly opened tables, so if 2 recs want to play each other, or anyone other than one of these regs, they simply can't.

There are a couple ways to address this. Obviously offering a rematch button to both players when a game ends is one... then at least when 2 players want to play a series of matches they can do so. Under the current set up they can't if these regs are on.

Another way, and I don't know if they can set it up this way programming wise, would be to set up rules that 1) a player can only open sit 1 table at a time waiting for an opponent (they could be playing other matches at the same time, just can't sit all open tables kind of thing at a specific stake) and 2) ensure the lobby is always populated with more than 1 open table at that stake. Maybe you make 3 open tables... when a match starts, a new table populates leaving again, 3 open tables. The 2 shift working regs even if on at the same time wouldn't be able to occupy all 3, if they were restricted to only 1 at a time.

I don't know if this sounds reasonable, or is even feasible for a programming standpoint, but it's my thoughts anyway.
05-25-2021 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by glutenfree
Yes but it's unclear how big the pool is. OP is saying these 2 regs work in shifts, sitting all newly opened tables, so if 2 recs want to play each other, or anyone other than one of these regs, they simply can't.
It should also go without saying if these 2 regs are forcing everyone to sit them by occupying all the open 50HU tables, and they are taking as much money out of the pool as stated annually... this is certain a contributing factor to the size of the pool itself. Casual players will quickly go away when they are losing consistently to the same 2 players and can't get a match with anyone else.
05-25-2021 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by glutenfree

Another way, and I don't know if they can set it up this way programming wise, would be to set up rules that 1) a player can only open sit 1 table at a time waiting for an opponent (they could be playing other matches at the same time, just can't sit all open tables kind of thing at a specific stake) and 2) ensure the lobby is always populated with more than 1 open table at that stake. Maybe you make 3 open tables... when a match starts, a new table populates leaving again, 3 open tables. The 2 shift working regs even if on at the same time wouldn't be able to occupy all 3, if they were restricted to only 1 at a time.

I don't know if this sounds reasonable, or is even feasible for a programming standpoint, but it's my thoughts anyway.
The reg would just leave the table he's waiting at and join the table with the rec when he sees someone has joined the other table. All he has to do is watch the lobby.
05-25-2021 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by glogga
The reg would just leave the table he's waiting at and join the table with the rec when he sees someone has joined the other table. All he has to do is watch the lobby.
Fair point. I'm not sure how to curtail this predatory practice then, will have to think more about this.

Any ideas?
05-25-2021 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by glogga
The reg would just leave the table he's waiting at and join the table with the rec when he sees someone has joined the other table. All he has to do is watch the lobby.
Make is so when you leave a lobby you can't join another for 3 minutes or so
05-25-2021 , 07:42 PM
Another idea to combat this may be anonymizing the HU lobbies. When a player sits, they're screen name isn't revealed in the lobby. You can see the screen name when the match starts, who you're playing against. Add the obvious rematch button they so desperately need and if both players like the match they can continue.

Obviously the regs would probably balk at this, particularly those 2. They may end up sitting with other regs more frequently than they'd like. But if it offers the more casual players some sense of protection, some sense of fairness in the matches, and the ability to play other opponents besides these 2, it would likely serve to encourage them to play more HU sngs. It might make the games more welcoming to the casual player as well, which over time grows the pool in the way the regs want it grown. The regs may be annoyed by something like this, and get more tough matches than they were before, but at the end of the day if the pool grows and thrives the good regs will still make bank.
05-25-2021 , 08:00 PM
If you anonymize the lobby the rec will have no way of knowing when he sits with a reg. If the regs are playing more tables you'll still end up in a match with one most of the time.
05-25-2021 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by glogga
If you anonymize the lobby the rec will have no way of knowing when he sits with a reg. If the regs are playing more tables you'll still end up in a match with one most of the time.
And the reg will have no way to know if he's sitting with a rec or another reg. Again fair point if the regs are sitting a lot the recs will still get get them much of the time, but not all the time which in and of itself is an improvement.

Do you have any suggestions?
05-26-2021 , 04:06 AM
Hello, allow me to introduce myself, I am GitGud, the main reg that OP is referring to in this braindead thread. Feel free to use my username from here on out if you wish. I'm unsure about the etiquette, and rules of posting links and usernames in the forum, so I will tread lightly, but if you look at sharkscope for about 2 minutes you can verify everything, something you might want to consider OP, I'll just refer to other users in order of their HU profit.


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Originally Posted by ArticFox
There is usually 2-3 games running at a time with 3 different people and the same reg... So yeah there is a lot of people playing them. There is one reg sitting 75% time and when he is off there is another one sitting. Not only are they bum hunting but they are doing it in shifts. They are up almost 300k in a year. I'd say there is plenty of action in the games.
First of all the only reason I made an account and am posting is that this is just straight up misinformation, or just laughably stupid. Please identify who you think is working in shifts, or you think is bumhunting exactly by username. I play literally everyone, and at times everything on the site. My most common opponent by far has been reg2 who I have played over 100 times more than any other user on the site HU, I have never once faded playing them, and they have never faded playing me to their credit. The player I've played the 2nd most games against lifetime, was a user who was at the time the top HU reg last year, the player I’ve played the 5th most games against was also the top reg during the time we played most of our volume, the player I've played the 6th most games against in the #4 guy this year, the player I've played the 9th most games against, is the #3 reg this year, and the best overall player on the entire site btw. The #2 reg's most common opponents are myself and reg #3. We all openly sit each other consistently. Reg 2 and I just put in the most volume, and when you happened to make your post, I decided to focus solely on HU for a bit. I actually have been openly sitting basically the entire SNG lobby lately. Collectively the other 2 top regs and I are up 40k this year HU, which is great, but we have played over 13k games collectively. That is not 300k in a year, I'm guessing you looked at our all time profit in every single game type including tournaments? lol.


As far as there being a lot of people playing HU, no there is not. There is at most 1 game going most of the time, that does not involve one of the main regs you are referring to, most of the time there are zero. If regs did not start them, they would rarely if ever even run, except for maybe on a Friday evening. That has long been the case since I've been playing them, and this is how basically every HU SNG lobby on every site has shook out at 50 dollar stakes and higher.


Myself, and other SNG regs in general are overwhelmingly positive to the overall ecosystem, I have paid over 100k in rake lifetime, and I have absolutely carried the entire sit n go lobby during multiple periods of time the past few years alongside other grinders, and have greatly increased the amount of games running, insinuating that I and some of the other regs are involved in some sort of coup together, despite the fact if anything, we battle way too hard against each other and end up losing to rake HU, and it takes very little effort to research that fact is just straight up a clown post IMO. The irony is, you just want to bum hunt HU, and you can’t, and you are salty, that’s what this is actually about.

As far as rematches are concerned, I'm all for it, I’m all for whatever gets the most amount of volume going as possible, but the reality is, these games aren’t running unless the regs start them so.....
05-26-2021 , 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by GotGud
Hello, allow me to introduce myself, I am GitGud, the main reg that OP is referring to in this braindead thread. Feel free to use my username from here on out if you wish. I'm unsure about the etiquette, and rules of posting links and usernames in the forum, so I will tread lightly, but if you look at sharkscope for about 2 minutes you can verify everything, something you might want to consider OP, I'll just refer to other users in order of their HU profit.




First of all the only reason I made an account and am posting is that this is just straight up misinformation, or just laughably stupid. Please identify who you think is working in shifts, or you think is bumhunting exactly by username. I play literally everyone, and at times everything on the site. My most common opponent by far has been reg2 who I have played over 100 times more than any other user on the site HU, I have never once faded playing them, and they have never faded playing me to their credit. The player I've played the 2nd most games against lifetime, was a user who was at the time the top HU reg last year, the player I’ve played the 5th most games against was also the top reg during the time we played most of our volume, the player I've played the 6th most games against in the #4 guy this year, the player I've played the 9th most games against, is the #3 reg this year, and the best overall player on the entire site btw. The #2 reg's most common opponents are myself and reg #3. We all openly sit each other consistently. Reg 2 and I just put in the most volume, and when you happened to make your post, I decided to focus solely on HU for a bit. I actually have been openly sitting basically the entire SNG lobby lately. Collectively the other 2 top regs and I are up 40k this year HU, which is great, but we have played over 13k games collectively. That is not 300k in a year, I'm guessing you looked at our all time profit in every single game type including tournaments? lol.


As far as there being a lot of people playing HU, no there is not. There is at most 1 game going most of the time, that does not involve one of the main regs you are referring to, most of the time there are zero. If regs did not start them, they would rarely if ever even run, except for maybe on a Friday evening. That has long been the case since I've been playing them, and this is how basically every HU SNG lobby on every site has shook out at 50 dollar stakes and higher.


Myself, and other SNG regs in general are overwhelmingly positive to the overall ecosystem, I have paid over 100k in rake lifetime, and I have absolutely carried the entire sit n go lobby during multiple periods of time the past few years alongside other grinders, and have greatly increased the amount of games running, insinuating that I and some of the other regs are involved in some sort of coup together, despite the fact if anything, we battle way too hard against each other and end up losing to rake HU, and it takes very little effort to research that fact is just straight up a clown post IMO. The irony is, you just want to bum hunt HU, and you can’t, and you are salty, that’s what this is actually about.

As far as rematches are concerned, I'm all for it, I’m all for whatever gets the most amount of volume going as possible, but the reality is, these games aren’t running unless the regs start them so.....
This was great lol
05-26-2021 , 01:05 PM
Haha GitGud, wassup you weak nit?
05-26-2021 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GotGud
Hello, allow me to introduce myself, I am GitGud, the main reg that OP is referring to in this braindead thread. Feel free to use my username from here on out if you wish. I'm unsure about the etiquette, and rules of posting links and usernames in the forum, so I will tread lightly, but if you look at sharkscope for about 2 minutes you can verify everything, something you might want to consider OP, I'll just refer to other users in order of their HU profit.




First of all the only reason I made an account and am posting is that this is just straight up misinformation, or just laughably stupid. Please identify who you think is working in shifts, or you think is bumhunting exactly by username. I play literally everyone, and at times everything on the site. My most common opponent by far has been reg2 who I have played over 100 times more than any other user on the site HU, I have never once faded playing them, and they have never faded playing me to their credit. The player I've played the 2nd most games against lifetime, was a user who was at the time the top HU reg last year, the player I’ve played the 5th most games against was also the top reg during the time we played most of our volume, the player I've played the 6th most games against in the #4 guy this year, the player I've played the 9th most games against, is the #3 reg this year, and the best overall player on the entire site btw. The #2 reg's most common opponents are myself and reg #3. We all openly sit each other consistently. Reg 2 and I just put in the most volume, and when you happened to make your post, I decided to focus solely on HU for a bit. I actually have been openly sitting basically the entire SNG lobby lately. Collectively the other 2 top regs and I are up 40k this year HU, which is great, but we have played over 13k games collectively. That is not 300k in a year, I'm guessing you looked at our all time profit in every single game type including tournaments? lol.


As far as there being a lot of people playing HU, no there is not. There is at most 1 game going most of the time, that does not involve one of the main regs you are referring to, most of the time there are zero. If regs did not start them, they would rarely if ever even run, except for maybe on a Friday evening. That has long been the case since I've been playing them, and this is how basically every HU SNG lobby on every site has shook out at 50 dollar stakes and higher.


Myself, and other SNG regs in general are overwhelmingly positive to the overall ecosystem, I have paid over 100k in rake lifetime, and I have absolutely carried the entire sit n go lobby during multiple periods of time the past few years alongside other grinders, and have greatly increased the amount of games running, insinuating that I and some of the other regs are involved in some sort of coup together, despite the fact if anything, we battle way too hard against each other and end up losing to rake HU, and it takes very little effort to research that fact is just straight up a clown post IMO. The irony is, you just want to bum hunt HU, and you can’t, and you are salty, that’s what this is actually about.

As far as rematches are concerned, I'm all for it, I’m all for whatever gets the most amount of volume going as possible, but the reality is, these games aren’t running unless the regs start them so.....
Wasn't talking about you? Nice job including yourself tho!!
05-26-2021 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by GotGud
Hello, allow me to introduce myself, I am GitGud, the main reg that OP is referring to in this braindead thread. Feel free to use my username from here on out if you wish. I'm unsure about the etiquette, and rules of posting links and usernames in the forum, so I will tread lightly, but if you look at sharkscope for about 2 minutes you can verify everything, something you might want to consider OP, I'll just refer to other users in order of their HU profit.




First of all the only reason I made an account and am posting is that this is just straight up misinformation, or just laughably stupid. Please identify who you think is working in shifts, or you think is bumhunting exactly by username. I play literally everyone, and at times everything on the site. My most common opponent by far has been reg2 who I have played over 100 times more than any other user on the site HU, I have never once faded playing them, and they have never faded playing me to their credit. The player I've played the 2nd most games against lifetime, was a user who was at the time the top HU reg last year, the player I’ve played the 5th most games against was also the top reg during the time we played most of our volume, the player I've played the 6th most games against in the #4 guy this year, the player I've played the 9th most games against, is the #3 reg this year, and the best overall player on the entire site btw. The #2 reg's most common opponents are myself and reg #3. We all openly sit each other consistently. Reg 2 and I just put in the most volume, and when you happened to make your post, I decided to focus solely on HU for a bit. I actually have been openly sitting basically the entire SNG lobby lately. Collectively the other 2 top regs and I are up 40k this year HU, which is great, but we have played over 13k games collectively. That is not 300k in a year, I'm guessing you looked at our all time profit in every single game type including tournaments? lol.


As far as there being a lot of people playing HU, no there is not. There is at most 1 game going most of the time, that does not involve one of the main regs you are referring to, most of the time there are zero. If regs did not start them, they would rarely if ever even run, except for maybe on a Friday evening. That has long been the case since I've been playing them, and this is how basically every HU SNG lobby on every site has shook out at 50 dollar stakes and higher.


Myself, and other SNG regs in general are overwhelmingly positive to the overall ecosystem, I have paid over 100k in rake lifetime, and I have absolutely carried the entire sit n go lobby during multiple periods of time the past few years alongside other grinders, and have greatly increased the amount of games running, insinuating that I and some of the other regs are involved in some sort of coup together, despite the fact if anything, we battle way too hard against each other and end up losing to rake HU, and it takes very little effort to research that fact is just straight up a clown post IMO. The irony is, you just want to bum hunt HU, and you can’t, and you are salty, that’s what this is actually about.

As far as rematches are concerned, I'm all for it, I’m all for whatever gets the most amount of volume going as possible, but the reality is, these games aren’t running unless the regs start them so.....
Thank you for adding this post and your perspective GitGud. This is definitely not what bum hunting is OP.

      
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