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Originally Posted by Wild Bill
The tone of this comes across as a criticism of Global's existence.
No, not a criticism, sorry it comes across that way. Just explaining it in a simple way of how it is legal and legitimate poker, just like ClubWPT. There are some that don't understand the model and have completely refused to call the phone numbers and speak with legal counsel, insiders, or other executives in the sector. There is no logic into not actually asking for specific answers from people that would know, but a month or more later....still no calls nor is there any proof, evidence of any sort to back up their claims. There is an adherence to the illogical, though. Such as......
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Originally Posted by GOLDNSQUID
I can't edit my post so here is all I wanted to post
A “sweepstakes” is a promotion where the winner is determined by a chance event and the participants exercise no control over the outcome. Typical sweepstakes are random drawings or instant win games, such as scratch and win cards.
If the promotion involves skill, rather than random chance, it might be a contest since a “contest” or “skill contest” refers to a promotion where skill or the ability to perform a required task determines the winner. If there is a mix of chance and skill to determine the winner(s), you may have an illegal lottery.
Global Poker Sweepstakes
There is a reason they won't share the RNG certificate. There is a reason they don't have hand histories. There is a reason they don't want HUDs.
This has been explained half a dozen times at least, with contact numbers and an easy way to confirm and/or learn what the model is.
There is NO reason to not call or email any of those people I gave as references. This is a continuance of inanity. Some people seem to believe that their lack of understanding is more substantial and accurate than the legal counsel of three different companies from small to one of the largest in the world. It is absurd and idiotic.
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Originally Posted by BGnight
I don't think so. I think what Global is doing is awesome because they're basically saying "F*** you, you know what we're doing, but try and stop us" to the U.S. Gov't because they found a loophole in their own stupid ****ing laws. (I'm of a libertarian mindset so I hate all gov't b.s.)
Unfortunately, I think the power of the Attorney General is powerful enough to squash this site like a bug without having any ramifications on things like the lottery which A dewd was talking about. Laws don't apply to those in power.
I hate the government, too. Wretched bastards and every time someone can get around their bs I am a fan.
The Attorney General would not be able to do anything outside of the law, though. Online lotteries fall under the same auspices as the sweepstakes and contests do. I also agree that laws don't have the same meaning for politicians, but they get a lot juice to offer for under the table deals from the lotteries. He has publicly stated that he wants to review the UIGEA and it would have to be overturned for VGW to be shutdown here. That means no more lotteries online, so no chance of that happening. Besides, Trump has asked for a committee to explore nationwide sports betting and other games.
Lastly, the idea that 'many important agencies' are looking into VGW now is correct, but not in the way intended. They have filed for trading. Many agencies and regulatory bodies look into the company in depth. They also know, with 100% certainty, whether or not a company that has filed for trading is currently under investigation by any other regulatory agency. If so, the company will never go effective and trade. If it was publicly trading, their counsel would be served noticed that they are currently under investigation and the company would be forced to make an announcement.
There are a lot of people saying things that are not only incorrect, but also not possible for several reason. For the most part, the story hasn't change nor has the desire to actually find out the answers. It isn't difficult to find out the truth. When someone refuses to seek out the correct answers, you have to question their reason for commenting, if not sanity and intellect.
The company is faulty in not updating the T&C, listing the certification data on their site, and explaining it clearer on their website. That would quell half of the tinfoil hat stuff or so, but there will always be some that defy logic and reasoning. The company is SO shady they listed their corporate attorney by name, easy enough to contact by anyone.