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02-07-2019 , 08:31 PM
Why are seating scripts allowed to exist on Global? They go against the ToS (depending on how it's interpreted) and it's clear they make game quality a lot worse at high stakes, as if you're not starting tables you're not able to get a seat during busier times.

Almost every other major poker site has made changes limiting the effectiveness of seating scripts or just outright banning them. Why are they allowed to exist on global when the only seating scripts available are through private parties, and they are infinitely more likely to include a HUD, which is also against what Global is trying to do? How does the ability of 8-15 people to run a seating script help out the ecosystem on Global? What would have to happen to get Global to look at this issue seriously?
02-07-2019 , 08:39 PM
It's because they are unwilling to invest in better security and do not give one iota to what the poker community thinks. They like to make money and talk down to their critics.
02-07-2019 , 11:19 PM
If you read the TOS, they're not allowed any more than HUDS are. If you suspect some of using them/are aware of third parties selling them, report it and journey on.
02-07-2019 , 11:41 PM
Support reiterates that using a seating script is breaking ToS but they refuse to take action against anyone using them. I'm anxiously awaiting Kimberly's reply on why Global refuses to ban those using seating scripts, and what benefits Global Poker receives when a private third party program is distributed and then used among a group of regs to the determinant of all the other players on the site.
02-07-2019 , 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by prisms
It's because they are unwilling to invest in better security and do not give one iota to what the poker community thinks. They like to make money and talk down to their critics.
I agree that they like to make money, which is exactly why they do care what the poker community thinks. And the vast majority of the poker community are rec-fish like me, and we're the ones that GP cares about primarily.
02-08-2019 , 12:29 AM
It's strange the tiny voice Global has in such an active subforum. There was a guy named Joey that used to participate - I dunno, maybe he still does? - he cited having a newborn as a reason for why he couldn't be more helpful. That was an e-smack like no other.
02-08-2019 , 12:42 AM
Not saying you’re wrong, but what evidence do you have? For example, I have full tables open A lot and click almost immediately once a seat opens.
02-08-2019 , 12:53 AM
When regs that are 8-10 tabling can join an empty seat when a player leaves in an already full ring game in less than .2 seconds, they're using a seating script. If you want to see it in action, watch xxxxx 3/6 and 5/10 right now.

Last edited by GlobalPokerCSKimbr; 02-11-2019 at 04:52 AM.
02-08-2019 , 02:32 AM
can we complain about something relevant..like rake? people aren't using seat scripts you're just paranoid
02-08-2019 , 02:44 AM
It's a problem at the higher stakes, not at the lower stakes, and I'm guessing you don't play higher stakes. xxxxx and xxxx are 100% using a seating script, as well as other people in their group.

Last edited by GlobalPokerCSKimbr; 02-11-2019 at 04:53 AM.
02-08-2019 , 01:31 PM
I like how you mixing up seating scripts and HUD. Two completely not related things.
Basic seating script can be written here in like 3 lines of code (and no I am not joking).
HUD is much more complex beast because you need to get HH somehow.
But I don't believe HS players would risk their account for such insignificant thing as seat script. You just open a table and pay attention and click fast. That's it.
02-08-2019 , 02:30 PM
I think they aren't doing anything for the same reason pokerstars hasn't for 5+ years.

It makes no difference to their bottom line, and the appearance and result for rec players is essentially identical.

Why would they incur any cost/waste any energy of the security team on making sure tables fill ~2 seconds slower through manual clicking.

Creative solutions are possible, (Like what Stars is doing come March 1) but banning A1981/OOtt isn't it, and doesn't accomplish anything.
02-08-2019 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by don't_be_so_naive
But I don't believe HS players would risk their account for such insignificant thing as seat script. You just open a table and pay attention and click fast. That's it.
They are definitely using seating scripts, and if you don't see that you obviously don't play high stakes or don't have experience using seating scripts. And I'm not calling for banning them outright, but if they continue to use a seating script after being warned they should be banned.

It's almost impossible to grab a seat if multiple people are running a seating script during peak times if 2 people are already sitting at a table. A recreational player sits, and the last 2-3 seats are immediately taken by people with a script. This is unfair, bad for the quality of games on global, and leads to situations where people have to camp tables in order to get seats at new tables that spawn. I'm still awaiting word from Kimberly on why Global allows this, and what benefits this has on the Global ecosystem as it pretty clearly goes against everything Global stands for.
02-08-2019 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by coraje
They are definitely using seating scripts, and if you don't see that you obviously don't play high stakes or don't have experience using seating scripts. And I'm not calling for banning them outright, but if they continue to use a seating script after being warned they should be banned.

It's almost impossible to grab a seat if multiple people are running a seating script during peak times if 2 people are already sitting at a table. A recreational player sits, and the last 2-3 seats are immediately taken by people with a script. This is unfair, bad for the quality of games on global, and leads to situations where people have to camp tables in order to get seats at new tables that spawn. I'm still awaiting word from Kimberly on why Global allows this, and what benefits this has on the Global ecosystem as it pretty clearly goes against everything Global stands for.
The reps only seem to respond when the issue is regarding somebody's favorite hand or a new tournament series.
02-08-2019 , 06:43 PM
Loaded questions dont deserve responses

I play 2/4 - 5/10 with andrei every day, he doesnt get to seats faster than i do

Some people (like me and andrei) just have great reaction time

Dont hate the playa hate the game

Last edited by Mike Haven; 02-09-2019 at 01:26 PM. Reason: 2 posts merged
02-08-2019 , 07:04 PM
I've been accused of in chat of using table ninja (which dont work on gp afaik) or some kind of equivalent for being good at watching the lobby and reggin for sngs as soon as they come available purely so I can fill my screen as best as I can in whatever games im playing at the time. But ya seating scripts and tn type things should be banned, same as players who use them IMO.
02-08-2019 , 08:00 PM
Why does every *****reg think seating scripts exist here. There's only been one pro I think MIGHT have them and it's questionable he could just have tables open waiting like any other normal person that plays high stakes for a living. Scripting is literally non existent at global the biggest problem is the removal of 10/20 and rake. It's by far the best site security wise no question.
02-08-2019 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by coraje
It's a problem at the higher stakes, not at the lower stakes, and I'm guessing you don't play higher stakes. xxxxx and xxxx are 100% using a seating script, as well as other people in their group.
no, they aren't. I've played with them for years. The real question is who the **** ARE YOU????

Last edited by GlobalPokerCSKimbr; 02-11-2019 at 04:55 AM.
02-08-2019 , 08:32 PM
Ah, the feeling when everyone using seating scripts comes into a thread petitioning against seating scripts by saying they don't exist. You're all scum
02-08-2019 , 08:45 PM
ur acting like a b.itch honestly, im sorry

when did men start acting like bitches so much god damn

sorry to be so misogynistic about it but jesus christ i cant stand when men throw hissy fits like this

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02-09-2019 , 12:52 AM
kimber and gp dont care, lets be realistic here.
02-09-2019 , 01:08 AM
Add my dad to the seating script list, he just joined and left a table 15 times with about a half a second in between joining and leaving each time lol

Last edited by GlobalPokerCSKimbr; 02-11-2019 at 04:56 AM.
02-09-2019 , 02:21 AM
they aren't allowed. Its not that difficult to keep the lobby or even the tables open on a 2nd monitor while you wait for a seat or game to start. If you are playing significant stakes its a no brainer to keep an eye on the lobby
02-09-2019 , 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by JeremiahW
they aren't allowed
Who told you this?

Global has refused to take action on any of these people breaking the ToS, so keeping this thread bumped until Kimberly chimes in on why they allow third party that are run in external programs outside of common browsers on Global Poker, or until she says that seating scripts are indeed banned from Global.

I used a seating script for the last 4 years on WPN, I'm quite familiar with what they look like. xxxx, xxxx, xxxx and xxxx are all 100% using seating scripts, and I would assume anyone talking in this thread about seating scripts not existing on global either has never used one or is currently using one themselves and trying to hide the fact they exist.

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Originally Posted by TakeNotesPlease
no, they aren't. I've played with them for years. The real question is who the FU¢K ARE YOU????
Who are you? If you think Andrei isn't using a seating script, you're either stupid or ignorant. The fact you claim to play with him every day I'm going with you're probably using one as well, and trying to hide the fact it exists.

I have 4 years of experience using seating scripts on multiple other sites. Besides the seating script just bugging out, the easiest tell is when a reg that is playing 8-10 tables can join an empty seat from a full ring game that goes from 6 people to 5 in less than .2 seconds.

Last edited by GlobalPokerCSKimbr; 02-11-2019 at 04:58 AM. Reason: 2 posts merged
02-09-2019 , 02:19 PM
I don't play cash at all but I do rail the higher games on occasion and its pretty obvious some people are using seating scripts.

      
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