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07-03-2022 , 05:39 PM
Nobody else seeing quads way to often???? Cmon… playing weekly bonanza currently, in the cash but last 2 hands I went all in… aj/aq…opposition has kk and other qq and BOTH flopped quads. Variance. Ooooooffff lol

On a side note, I got an ace both times too. Lol idk
07-04-2022 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by JVplay
Nobody else seeing quads way to often???? Cmon… playing weekly bonanza currently, in the cash but last 2 hands I went all in… aj/aq…opposition has kk and other qq and BOTH flopped quads. Variance. Ooooooffff lol

On a side note, I got an ace both times too. Lol idk
I posted this earlier...I see quads a lot. I hit 2 royal flushes in one month(playing nhl) awhile back and I don't play a lot, so far ive hit 4 play holdem and one playing plo.

As for the OP, I played a few heads up SnGs recently, which I rarely do and boy i was hit with varience. Sure it was a small sample size but it reminded me of this thread.

I just want more folks playing on Global(more fish in the sea!). All this speculation of it not being "fair" because if the sweepstakes setup is certainly scaring folks away.
07-04-2022 , 07:17 PM
I've been on the bad side of variance too. A guy at the tables said " this feels more like bingo than poker ". I've also seen the " this isn't real poker its sweepstakes ".
07-04-2022 , 10:56 PM
So here is an interesting problem I am having on other sites. I can’t win any money because everyone is just waiting for the nuts… where can I find maniac players like global without the sick run outs?

Tournaments seem to work better on other sites since people are almost forced to play hands.I took down a PLO the other day on BOL. I have won tournaments on ACR and GG Poker (VPN) too but zero on Global. It really makes no sense since I have played more tournaments on global and their player pool is way worse!

I really prefer cash because tournaments take so long. Any ideas where to play? I miss the action on global but the bad beats and coolers seem to happen way too often.
07-04-2022 , 11:41 PM
The more maniacs and whales at a table, the more bad beats you are gonna see.

More showdowns = more sick runouts.

Table with a bunch of nits = less showdowns and less bad beats.

There are no tables with huge whales and calling stations without a lot of sick runouts ANYWHERE.

Its just math. The more coin flips you see, the more streaks of heads or tails in a row you will see.



P.S. - On Global Poker you cannot see a losing hand unless they were the bettor. So when someone calls on the river and does not show, you have no idea if you just put a huge cooler on someone. But you always know when you got coolered. This adds up over time, and skews the perception.
07-05-2022 , 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Jreven
So here is an interesting problem I am having on other sites. I can’t win any money because everyone is just waiting for the nuts… where can I find maniac players like global without the sick run outs?

They call it Action because things happen. More Action=More Suckouts. Less Action=Fewer Suckouts.

Tournaments seem to work better on other sites since people are almost forced to play hands.I took down a PLO the other day on BOL. I have won tournaments on ACR and GG Poker (VPN) too but zero on Global. It really makes no sense since I have played more tournaments on global and their player pool is way worse!

I really prefer cash because tournaments take so long. Any ideas where to play? I miss the action on global but the bad beats and coolers seem to happen way too often.

I have my own opinion about the variance on Global Poker. I believe you get more bad beats because there are more players getting in with bad hands. Try to remember, there is only one way to receive a Bad Beat and that is to be in the pot with the best hand. There is no way that getting your money in good is a bad thing. It is often difficult but I try really hard not to care if I win or lose a pot. I try to only care about how I played the hand.
Come back to Global, fasten your seat belt and try to enjoy the ride.
07-05-2022 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by delivery guy
The more maniacs and whales at a table, the more bad beats you are gonna see.

More showdowns = more sick runouts.

Table with a bunch of nits = less showdowns and less bad beats.

There are no tables with huge whales and calling stations without a lot of sick runouts ANYWHERE.

Its just math. The more coin flips you see, the more streaks of heads or tails in a row you will see.



P.S. - On Global Poker you cannot see a losing hand unless they were the bettor. So when someone calls on the river and does not show, you have no idea if you just put a huge cooler on someone. But you always know when you got coolered. This adds up over time, and skews the perception.
Exactly this. I've been playing here almost exclusively since January, and the variance comes in waves, just as it should. I play the same way I did pre Black Friday, I was a winning player then, as I am now. I don't play cash, only mtt & sng. On the other hand, at ACR, I am only break even. I get brutal bad beats on me there consistently. Took a long break from there, tried there again last week, 3 out of 4 games I lost after getting the chips in as a fav. One of my losses were against runner quads.
07-05-2022 , 02:15 PM
Scored another micro MTT(turbo) win thanks to the RNG.(joking of course, but I did get lucky a few times)

I usually bust in a tournament because of a bad beat(which is typical as going all in multiple times makes this statistically likely), but not last night.

I got crippled with AK vs QQ, had 3.5 BB left in the BBwith 64s, had 2 allins in front of my, figured I was likely not dominated and would have to get lucky regardless to stay alive (I would have less than 2BB left next hand after SB and ante) so I had to call....i flopped a straight, rivered a flush and got called a donk.

A few rounds later Im back down to about 8BB shove with A10 and naturally one of the blinds has AJ and I suck out.

Final table 3 ways, since its a turbo avg stack size is about 15BB so a lot of pre flop all ins... won a few 40/60s to stay alive...knocked out the 3rd place guy with 10 8s vs AK(he had about 7bb and i pushed)...needless to say i got called a donk again.

This is typical of any tournament. The ones I win, i generally get lucky a few times besides winning coin flips, while the majority i lose when I have a dominating hand(ie AK vs Ax, PAIR vs pair, TPTK vs pair or draw, ect...)

I can see how a tilted and less experienced player can see this and cry "It's rigged!"

Again, I think Global Poker's biggest issue is perception, as many folks think the sweepstakes model is flawed in terms of fair play...yet have no issues with WPN/ACR despite several issues they have had over the years.
07-05-2022 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Jreven
So here is an interesting problem I am having on other sites. I can’t win any money because everyone is just waiting for the nuts…
Sounds like easy money to me...
07-05-2022 , 06:53 PM
I think most of the regular tournaments play like turbos on global. I haven’t really compared the blind structures between sites but it seems like the chips last longer on the other sites. This could explain why the tournaments seem higher variance on global.
07-05-2022 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jreven
I think most of the regular tournaments play like turbos on global. I haven’t really compared the blind structures between sites but it seems like the chips last longer on the other sites. This could explain why the tournaments seem higher variance on global.
Does not help when you send it with 55 after a 10x raise pre flop and after the flop you didn’t hit a 5. just knocked you out of the free uspo w KK. Lol
07-05-2022 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JVplay
Does not help when you send it with 55 after a 10x raise pre flop and after the flop you didn’t hit a 5. just knocked you out of the free uspo w KK. Lol

Lololol. Wait a minute, you're telling me all these riglords aren't also wizards of the game?
07-06-2022 , 11:21 PM
I don’t remember that hand but it’s probably true. Was I short? I have just been jamming on the free crap with anything after taking them serious and getting sucked out in a few of them. I don’t feel like wasting time in those. Either I build up a stack or get out.
07-07-2022 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jreven
I don’t remember that hand but it’s probably true. Was I short? I have just been jamming on the free crap with anything after taking them serious and getting sucked out in a few of them. I don’t feel like wasting time in those. Either I build up a stack or get out.
You weren't short per say but did double me up. I didn't do too swell after that either. Called a few all in's with good equity, just didn't hit anything. We were around the same though at the time. I hear ya on all the free entry stuff. Just take your chance, get a stack and then go from there.
07-09-2022 , 09:13 PM
Not sure how I keep getting it in good pre and keep losing on crazy suck outs, usually on the river. Non stop for the last few weeks. I was running it up no problem, won 2 Jackpots on the Jackpot sit in gos and now it seems no matter what i'm destined to lose. Gonna try a different site for now and see how it goes, I'll be back.
07-18-2022 , 02:18 AM
Has anyone tried to independently verify Global producing "fair"results?

It does seem like a handful of players run like Gods on there consistently with insane graphs on SS(if they are tournament players) I feel like everytime I encounter them they make horrible calls and suck out. Not just once or twice either.

Maybe its just because i am running bad and getting tilted but I can get why so many all over social media feel like Global Poker is fishy.
07-18-2022 , 02:21 PM
I can appreciate a healthy dose of skepticism in todays world. However I often wonder why do some of you come in here yelling rigged RNG. Just don't play on Global and move on to greener pastures. Nobody is going to be convinced on either camp to switch sides.
07-19-2022 , 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Lloyd Braun
I can appreciate a healthy dose of skepticism in todays world. However I often wonder why do some of you come in here yelling rigged RNG. Just don't play on Global and move on to greener pastures. Nobody is going to be convinced on either camp to switch sides.
I definitely have posted on here after some bad beats....

Variance is a bitch though, yesterday was especially bad for me.

Simply could not hit a and against calling stations at 10NL and ended dropping about 5 BI's trying to out race the fish....some were brutal but that's poker and at the end of the day I appreciate folks calling my 4 bet with 10 4 off....
07-23-2022 , 04:44 PM
Despite winning several micro tournaments, Im still a little suspicious. Unlike 99% of the riggies, I'm actually a winning player.

The fact is no one has independently verified(at least on social media) to have a 'fair' makes Global a tough sell for many US players. The perception that Global has a "rigged" RNG does keep a significant amount of folks from depositing funds. If some trusted poker pros or "ambassadors" went on YouTube promoting Global.as a fair game, it would do wonders to getting more players on the site.

Sure I might be a little tilted because I finally got to play a GOAT tourny with a decent prize pool and got robbed.

Flopped the nut set and got a caller with pickets 8s(who had no business calling) that only outs were a backdoor flush or runner runner quads...of course he goes runner runner and I go from amongst the chip.leaders to about 5bb and was out a few hands later.

This **** happens to me a lot, especially in their special events with a decent prize pool.
07-23-2022 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jr0d
I definitely have posted on here after some bad beats....

Variance is a bitch though, yesterday was especially bad for me.

Simply could not hit a and against calling stations at 10NL and ended dropping about 5 BI's trying to out race the fish....some were brutal but that's poker and at the end of the day I appreciate folks calling my 4 bet with 10 4 off....

And if doing that against you constantly works they appreciate you thinking that in a fair game you were the favorite means anything in a crooked game.
03-04-2023 , 12:38 AM
Heres the latest from what ive experienced as ive always said I think theres something correlated with cashouts and variance but everyone calls me crazy so I had money left on global after i started playing more live and I came back to grind on bovada around middle january heres my graph from when I came back.

https://www.sharkscope.com/#Player-S...200~1677301199

Cashed out night of 2/24 or morning of 2/25 heres my results since. Exact same thing occurred last year with my cashouts I can go back and post those if you wanna see those as well this usually continues for about 1500 ish games then it goes back to normal after every cashout. As I said below is the graph after cashout this time.

https://www.sharkscope.com/#Player-S...800~2151291599
03-04-2023 , 12:39 AM
If you look at my overall graph thru almost 10k games on global theres 4-5 b/e or losing stretches that all came after a significant cashout.
03-04-2023 , 12:52 AM
How do you know that the energy you are expending thinking about this isn't effecting the quality of your play?
03-04-2023 , 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Sirbustalotz
If you look at my overall graph thru almost 10k games on global theres 4-5 b/e or losing stretches that all came after a significant cashout.
looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oool

have you notified the union about this?!

shocked they are still willing to play here!
03-04-2023 , 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by HokieGreg
How do you know that the energy you are expending thinking about this isn't effecting the quality of your play?
I guess it could be but nothings changed for me on bovada and this is the 5th time in a row this has happened.

      
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