Wish they would finally add Standard and Turbo speed HUsngs I would gladly play on there full time instead of ignition if so.

The SnGs feel strange on Ignition... almost botty to me. Check jammed river (with air) on super wet board and got snapped with 6th pair. Although unlikely, single table SnGs are probably the most exploitable on an anonymous site like Ignition.

If I could get any damn money on GP I'll be back taking all of Poker12's money

Errybody's been taking my money over the last month. Gotta get back in the lab.

A few years back I spent some time on the SnGs on Ignition, seemed pretty soft but I just hate not knowing who anybody is. I like to watch the strong winners play and see if I can pick something up, and I looooove sharkscope. I kinda hate bitcoin too.

I deposited two nights ago and it was no problem with my visa debit card to add 3k, so I don't know why you're having problems adding money.

Mid-high SnGs used to die around 3:30-4 EST, now they die at like 2-2:30. Jerks trying to make me wake up earlier

It's still so annoying because there are always fish/superfish hanging around at this time wanting to 1 table, and if only, like, 3+ regs are around a ton of games will fill fairly quickly b/c other fish will still see a somewhat active lobby and want to hop in (as opposed to seeing poker12 and nobody else in 7 games), but one or two regs is insufficient.

I realllllly think Global would benefit from getting some prop players in these games, get three props in from 3-8AM or whatever, and I bet 4-5x as many games would run in these hours. Everyone wins.

Consider this my monthly complaint about this issue.

yeah plus a lot of strong hands that **** me might raise

On the topic of ignition/bovada

The 9 mans and 6 man turbo/reg speeds on ignition are just as soft if not softer than global tbh. As the structures are better. But, the volume is obviously a lot lower... 4 table limit and they take way longer to get enough registered

There's very very few regs in those games and even though it's anonymous you can tell by how long a game sits at 1 or 2 people registered.. Even right now at 12:30am eastern $10 games and up are all a ghost town for the reg speed and turbo 6m/9m

double ups/triple ups and HU are by far what attracts the most volume.. Which those are like the 3 worst games you'd want to play on an anonymous site lol

6 max hypers pop off relatively quick. The structure is better than global and the rake is lower. But 4 table cap

It also sucks that you can't make the tables very small on ignition. As that obviously makes it tougher to add ignition games to part of your grind. On ignition I can only 6 table before I have to overlap tables. On global I can fill my screen with 15 and not have stuff covered up

The mtt's are the best you can find.

Pretty fun today. Sattied into the Sunday scrimmage and landed on septa and p12’s table. Just wanted to say that I three bet three times in a row when Poker12 opened with complete **** just because he is poker12. As a low stakes sng player, pretty thrilling to barralel a bluff against a global legend and get it through. I feel like Dnegs said he felt after bluffing Johnny Chan.

"Global legend" lmaoooo if that bum making minimum wage is a legend I guess I'm Zeus

lol

had a feeling you had air in those hands but laid down all the ace highs

Does anyone know a good training site for 9 max sngs?

I have the lab and it is really good for basic poker fundementals and the early stages. For late stage play watch people like tonkaaaap and use Holdem Resources to find unexploitable shove ranges. Coaching is probably the best and there are def a lot of good coaches you can find on the internetz. Their are also good video packs but I don’t know about that so I am sure someone else can tell you better.

lol I see they excised our very civil political conversation. Fair enough I kinda think the guy to blame for that is the guy who doesn't play SnGs coming in to the SnG discussion thread strictly to troll, but whatever.

Anyway I'm also interested in training videos and the like. What's "The Lab"? Is that the one with Phil Galfond? The only instructional stuff I really know about is BenCB's course. I really should actually learn something concrete about poker instead of always relying on pure intuition ...

I used to play with that tonkaaaa guy on Stars like 10 years ago, watching him play on stream in 2018 was kind of a trip.

yeah I only see him in tourneys and never see him in the lobby for any sngs

Wait bencb has another sng class!? I thought he only had the hyper crusher class.

Guess so p12, ill ask a s&g question while Im here. Been playing a few per day at work, how many games would you say I need to play before the "long run" or even so how many do I need to play before you know you can definitely beat current stake. As a cash player its a whole different level of variance in s&g and thankfully in the past I was a beast at 50/50 (self proclaimed) so I understand how swingy it is playing 10 BB bubbles against players who have no idea what optimal play is in these scenario, not saying Im near optimal, but getting it in with 60-40 65-35 type odds consistently has to have an optimal outcome, if I keep playing...

I'm guessing "the lab" is Upswing Poker's stuff? They have something called the "poker lab".

No, sorry, I was referring to all SnG/MTT instruction not just 9mans.

I'm not sure, I'm not really the right person to ask this, to be honest. I can tell you that if you play 9m, 6m, and hypers it's possible to be a winning player and have 2k+ game breakeven stretches. I'd probably look at sharkscopes of me, jaredpoker, and some other players that have 10k+ game samples for a taste of the variance involved.

They also have sites out there that can calculate your risk of ruin after you input your ROI, stakes, etc, I mess with those every now and then.

Oh yeah I think you're right. I didn't see many great reviews of upswing, and reading nvg it seems like that whole operation is kinda messed up.

I was talking about the upswing poker lab. I think it is great as it teaches a systematic way of playing the game. The stuff with Jnandez is not related to the original lab and the operation seems to be run well. The Jnandez situation has nothing to do with the way Upswing conducts itself but rather the fact that there was a contractual option that just happened to be exercised at an inopportune time for consumers of the PLO lab.

after a couple hundred youll know if youre a winner or not, determining an actual winrate takes thousands

Oh ya, by the way Trump 2020, you've been talkin all that ****. Why don't you check that Sharkscope leaderboard for those $3 sngs. Sure, small sample, only 500 games, but this 20nl "bumhunter" just started grinding sngs like a week ago. Apparently you've been dabbling in some sngs too, huh? Why don't you come sit down in some of these $3 sngs. In fact, you don't have a man in ur family if u don't sit down at some tables with me and back up all that bull**** u have to say.

It takes longer than a few hundred games. Look at hodler and other players.

Where do I learn nash? Im using icmizer rn but I dont think its the most effective way to learn it. Ik nash isnt everything but I need to learn it to play against some players.

The “variance” I’ve experienced on this site is... weird.

I’ve lost 10 of my 12 SNGs today. The KO hands were a bit ridiculous.

Two of those times I was crushed. Can’t complain.
Four of those I was all in w/ KK against KQ (yes exactly KK vs. KQ) (85%)
Another of those was KK against J9s (79%)
Another was AA against 32s. (83%)
Another was QQ against 33. (81%)
Two others were pocket pair to one overcard. (67%)

And that’s just today. I’m not one for rigged conspiracies or anything, but my goodness. Granted there have been hands of mine that have held up, but I’m definitely losing with dominant hands at a much higher rate than one would expect.


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been there but!!!!! compared to other sites im up better per games played and seeing other winning players from other sites doing better than those sites id say its fine. more bad players calling seems to be a big part of the suck outs

keep fighting the good fight

So whats up Trump 2020? All I hear is crickets. Talkin all that **** about me spewing off in $3 sngs. Well whats up mfer, I want some of u. If sngs are too much for u to handle than u can always find me at the 20 nl tables too. Whats ur GP username? I hope ur not gonna take off w ur tail between ur legs.
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