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07-03-2018 , 10:20 AM
moonshine is the last person on global that should complain about someone else's hands. has to be trolling with that hypocrisy but somehow I doubt he is.
07-03-2018 , 05:32 PM
haha oh snap

we need more **** talking in this thread to distract people from complaining about worldpay

on that note I bring you Poker12's Global Poker SnG Power Rankings Volume 2

1. poker12 (obv )
2. SerpaeTetra (we have pretty similar games afaik, he probably plays better than me in postflop situations w/ reasonably deep stacks, but I'm convinced I make better ICM shove/calls/folds)
3. Stacey317 (a new contender shooting up the ranks, has improved her(?) game even over the 2 months or whatever she's been playing, still a small sample but she is one of my least favorite opponents)
4. Agorist (hasn't played a lot recently but is arguably the best hyper player on Global)

the top 4 are all in one tier, with a gap, and then

5. LeeRoy (hard to compare b/c he only plays 9m midstakes, but he's the best of the guys that exclusively play 9m so here he is)
6. jaredpoker (gets significantly underrated by people who don't actually play games with him)

and after that there's probably another gap, people like moofeus/beanfriend/cvo/jdchiphog/ilofty/hodler, all of whom are clearly winning players but I feel make objectively bad plays fairly regularly

I suspect that some other people would put the third group above Jared, but they are wrong. Jared is extremely good at getting fish to stack off to him in stupid ways, arguably the best at that on Global. His results would be pretty sweet if he played the 55s and lower. His results are also depressed by how badly he runs at the 218.

Hopefully you all enjoy this post as much as I enjoyed making it.

Last edited by pokerONETWO; 07-03-2018 at 05:40 PM.
07-03-2018 , 06:08 PM
07-03-2018 , 07:07 PM
Jared>P12
07-03-2018 , 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerONETWO
Hopefully you all enjoy this post as much as I enjoyed making it.
Your rankings are what we're all here for.
07-04-2018 , 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerONETWO
haha oh snap

we need more **** talking in this thread to distract people from complaining about worldpay

on that note I bring you Poker12's Global Poker SnG Power Rankings Volume 2

1. poker12 (obv )
2. SerpaeTetra (we have pretty similar games afaik, he probably plays better than me in postflop situations w/ reasonably deep stacks, but I'm convinced I make better ICM shove/calls/folds)
3. Stacey317 (a new contender shooting up the ranks, has improved her(?) game even over the 2 months or whatever she's been playing, still a small sample but she is one of my least favorite opponents)
4. Agorist (hasn't played a lot recently but is arguably the best hyper player on Global)

the top 4 are all in one tier, with a gap, and then

5. LeeRoy (hard to compare b/c he only plays 9m midstakes, but he's the best of the guys that exclusively play 9m so here he is)
6. jaredpoker (gets significantly underrated by people who don't actually play games with him)

and after that there's probably another gap, people like moofeus/beanfriend/cvo/jdchiphog/ilofty/hodler, all of whom are clearly winning players but I feel make objectively bad plays fairly regularly

I suspect that some other people would put the third group above Jared, but they are wrong. Jared is extremely good at getting fish to stack off to him in stupid ways, arguably the best at that on Global. His results would be pretty sweet if he played the 55s and lower. His results are also depressed by how badly he runs at the 218.

Hopefully you all enjoy this post as much as I enjoyed making it.

I didn't even make it... Been crushing everyone on that list My sample size is smaller (Serpae is 5x games) but the numbers don't lie.

P.s. - Poker12 I have to feel bad for you, you were running incredibly awful today
07-04-2018 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by tubal-cain
lololol

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Originally Posted by gopackthomas
Jared>P12


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Originally Posted by hodler
Your rankings are what we're all here for.
Thanks!

I honestly enjoy the competition with other strong players, comparing games, **** talking, etc. more than winning money

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Originally Posted by imAAculate
I didn't even make it... Been crushing everyone on that list My sample size is smaller (Serpae is 5x games) but the numbers don't lie.

P.s. - Poker12 I have to feel bad for you, you were running incredibly awful today
I didn't consider you because I felt we haven't played enough games together yet to have a good understanding of your game. You're a pretty tough guy though . Congrats on winning the 200 Sunday MTT!

P.S. - I don't even really remember running badly. Been playing so many games recently it's all a blur!
07-04-2018 , 04:07 PM
Well see you on the felt, look forward to you quickly adding me to that list

And thanks, it was a good run last Sunday...
07-05-2018 , 03:40 AM
hey im whatacall i see u all the time in the 110s and 55s
07-05-2018 , 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by owl_
LOL.

I played 107 sngs and had over 41% ROI, and you don't think that's running insanely good?

I'm curious to know your Global screen name. Because I guarantee you're not beating sngs for a +41% ROI.

Also, not sure what slightening means. And, don't worry, no offense was taken.
[IMG][/IMG]

41% ROI is chump change
07-05-2018 , 11:25 AM
This is my first post here but i have played with some of you guys before my sn being snowmanvil. I'm knew to online poker in general. After discovering sharkscope i realize I must be one of the fishes. I've seriously questioned the RNG on Global but after looking up so many of the regs and seeing the green graphs I'm inclined to think its legit even tho the 1-4 outers seem to just always be happening... Apparently I show profit excluding rake which obviously doesnt count but it makes me want to ask- What am i doing wrong, should i not be playing hypers or turbos? I seem to do good in the MTTS as i get to final table a decent amount since i started playing them about a month ago. Maybe i should stick to those only. Any suggestions from those who have crushed/been sucked out by me?
07-05-2018 , 12:54 PM
I'm not the best to ask since I make objectively bad plays regularly, but focus on ICM. No matter what format you play, the same general concepts apply - need to learn how the value of your chips changes depending on the situation.
07-05-2018 , 01:51 PM
Agorist is the best.
Serpae is next.
Poker12 and jared aren't actually that great.
07-05-2018 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by gpwhatacall
hey im whatacall i see u all the time in the 110s and 55s
sup yo

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Originally Posted by snowmanvil
POST
I dunno man but fwiw there are plenty of people that are easily worse than you. I do have a blue "fish" sticky on you tho

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Originally Posted by hodler
I'm not the best to ask since I make objectively bad plays regularly, but focus on ICM. No matter what format you play, the same general concepts apply - need to learn how the value of your chips changes depending on the situation.
haha, it was just my opinion bro!

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Originally Posted by ButterMango
Agorist is the best.
Serpae is next.
Poker12 and jared aren't actually that great.
who dis?
07-06-2018 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by snowmanvil
This is my first post here but i have played with some of you guys before my sn being snowmanvil. I'm knew to online poker in general. After discovering sharkscope i realize I must be one of the fishes. I've seriously questioned the RNG on Global but after looking up so many of the regs and seeing the green graphs I'm inclined to think its legit even tho the 1-4 outers seem to just always be happening... Apparently I show profit excluding rake which obviously doesnt count but it makes me want to ask- What am i doing wrong, should i not be playing hypers or turbos? I seem to do good in the MTTS as i get to final table a decent amount since i started playing them about a month ago. Maybe i should stick to those only. Any suggestions from those who have crushed/been sucked out by me?
A lot of times a fish/mediocre player will "get it in good" vs a reg in SnGs and base their opinion of their game (relative to other players) according to that. But the reg is playing an ICM game, which basically dictates that you have to shove (or call a shove) y% of hands in x situation. The reg is playing a theoretically sound game, but it might not look like good poker to an outside observer.

I probably get my chips in with <50% equity in a heads up pot a higher percentage of the time than you do (at least in <15bb situations), even though my overall results are superior to yours. ICM dictates some plays that can look counter-intuitive, especially in certain calling spots where it's recommending calling shoves way tighter than you probably think is appropriate.

So in that vein I recommend that you download the software ICMizer, it's a pretty comprehensive tool for this stuff. If I remember correctly it's free for a base version and something like 10$/month for a full version. Sometimes, I will take a hand history where I'm unsure of my play and plug it in to this software, and I learn something pretty much every time I do this.

PS -- ICMizer helps for MTTs too

Last edited by pokerONETWO; 07-06-2018 at 04:59 PM.
07-07-2018 , 09:18 AM
Thanks for the input. I'm sure this advice will prove helpful.
07-15-2018 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerONETWO
haha oh snap

we need more **** talking in this thread to distract people from complaining about worldpay

on that note I bring you Poker12's Global Poker SnG Power Rankings Volume 2

1. poker12 (obv )
2. SerpaeTetra (we have pretty similar games afaik, he probably plays better than me in postflop situations w/ reasonably deep stacks, but I'm convinced I make better ICM shove/calls/folds)
3. Stacey317 (a new contender shooting up the ranks, has improved her(?) game even over the 2 months or whatever she's been playing, still a small sample but she is one of my least favorite opponents)
4. Agorist (hasn't played a lot recently but is arguably the best hyper player on Global)

the top 4 are all in one tier, with a gap, and then

5. LeeRoy (hard to compare b/c he only plays 9m midstakes, but he's the best of the guys that exclusively play 9m so here he is)
6. jaredpoker (gets significantly underrated by people who don't actually play games with him)

and after that there's probably another gap, people like moofeus/beanfriend/cvo/jdchiphog/ilofty/hodler, all of whom are clearly winning players but I feel make objectively bad plays fairly regularly

I suspect that some other people would put the third group above Jared, but they are wrong. Jared is extremely good at getting fish to stack off to him in stupid ways, arguably the best at that on Global. His results would be pretty sweet if he played the 55s and lower. His results are also depressed by how badly he runs at the 218.

Hopefully you all enjoy this post as much as I enjoyed making it.
Not even an honorable mention
07-15-2018 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by cAArlsagan
How do you think you guys would fair on say, ACR for SNGs? Are Global games way softer? A lot of the regs who play there have really mediocre graphs.
Just look up thegoldenblazer on sharkscope on both sites and you'll see the difference
07-15-2018 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by thegoldenblazer
Just look up thegoldenblazer on sharkscope on both sites and you'll see the difference


Lol
07-16-2018 , 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by cAArlsagan
Man, is it just a reg-fest over there?

Were you getting decent rake back or Sit N Crush bonuses?
I mean let me be clear, tournament #1 on ACR was the first poker tournament I ever played period, so you're definitely watching some growing pains and stuff, however its definitely reg infested and the games are tough. Rake back makes it alright though, I would clear 125 (175 if you include the tournament entry) pretty much every week in rakeback
07-16-2018 , 01:44 AM
[QUOTE=pokerONETWO;54015806]sup yo
yo am i playing good when against u im not sure if i wanna play sngs im worried im playing like ****
07-16-2018 , 12:48 PM
I'd like to chime in whatacall and ask what the hell was that last night. Situation: 70 man tourney 4 players left. Chip leader just became that from shoving first hand after break with 67o. Then chip leader with 85k in chips called first hand after break with AA only to lose to a straight 34567. 1 or two hands later
PLayer 1: 5k
Player 2: 10K
PLayer 3: 80K
PLayer 4: 160K

PLayer 1 goes all in for his measly 5k. PLayer 2 folds. Players 3 (me) calls the 5 k with 6's in the hole. Player 4 who is big blind proceeds to go all in for 160k. What the blank.... The difference between 3rd and 4th is a decent amount and Player 1 has hardly any chips. After originally calling and showing i was willing to take on low stack I obviously fold my 6's because why else in that situation would someone go all in with less than a monster/decent hand?
Obviously the low stack has less chance to win 3 handed vs 2 handed. Anyways, I fold and Player 4 flips over Q10o and goes up against the micro stack with AKo. Flop is 26K. Turn J. I forgot the river but the set of 6's woulda elimated the short stack but instead his AK holds up. I so wish i called that pot just for spite. Q10?? I get ICm and you want to maximize whatever but in that spot?
Luckily next hand chip leader goes all in now with j5o against Player 2 holding KK. The J5 hits the K high str8 after the low stack makes a set. PLayer 1 also eliminated to some more BS the next hand. I lose the next hand 8's in the hole have no idea what happened as i turned away but im sure it was some kinda BS lol. Tourney lasted like 5 hands after break.

I'm definitely OK with the result. I am just puzzled as to how that kinda play translates into a winning strategy. I dont use chat so maybe its personal but its just baffling.
07-17-2018 , 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by thegoldenblazer
Not even an honorable mention
Discounted people who mostly just play 9mans; you ain't chopped liver

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Originally Posted by snowmanvil
I'd like to chime in whatacall and ask what the hell was that last night. Situation: 70 man tourney 4 players left.
PLayer 1: 5k
Player 2: 10K
PLayer 3: 80K
PLayer 4: 160K

PLayer 1 goes all in for his measly 5k. PLayer 2 folds. Players 3 (me) calls the 5 k with 6's in the hole. Player 4 who is big blind proceeds to go all in for 160k. What the blank.... The difference between 3rd and 4th is a decent amount and Player 1 has hardly any chips. After originally calling and showing i was willing to take on low stack I obviously fold my 6's because why else in that situation would someone go all in with less than a monster/decent hand?

Obviously the low stack has less chance to win 3 handed vs 2 handed. Anyways, I fold and Player 4 flips over Q10o and goes up against the micro stack with AKo. Flop is 26K. Turn J. I forgot the river but the set of 6's woulda elimated the short stack but instead his AK holds up. I so wish i called that pot just for spite. Q10?? I get ICm and you want to maximize whatever but in that spot?

I'm definitely OK with the result. I am just puzzled as to how that kinda play translates into a winning strategy. I dont use chat so maybe its personal but its just baffling.
(edited your post)

Depending on what the blinds were, this could be a perfectly fine play. He could think you're on scared money and will fold like AQs and 99, and your dead money when you fold is a pretty huge result for him considering you're stackwise the only guy that can put any pressure on him in later hands unless one of the shorties doubles up multiple times. It could also just be spew given whatever the blinds are and who all the players are.

QTo is probably a reasonable hand to do this with (opposed to just calling) considering a lot of the medium strength hands that you'll def fold dominate him, like KQ, AT etc. Depending on the blinds I'd make this play a lot too.

If he's really creative he might also think that you think that Global didn't fix the payout glitch and so if you bust you'll split payout with the short stack instead of laddering up and thus will fold a ton of hands

Last edited by pokerONETWO; 07-17-2018 at 10:29 PM.
07-18-2018 , 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by snowmanvil
I'd like to chime in whatacall and ask what the hell was that last night. Situation: 70 man tourney 4 players left. Chip leader just became that from shoving first hand after break with 67o. Then chip leader with 85k in chips called first hand after break with AA only to lose to a straight 34567. 1 or two hands later
PLayer 1: 5k
Player 2: 10K
PLayer 3: 80K
PLayer 4: 160K

PLayer 1 goes all in for his measly 5k. PLayer 2 folds. Players 3 (me) calls the 5 k with 6's in the hole. Player 4 who is big blind proceeds to go all in for 160k. What the blank.... The difference between 3rd and 4th is a decent amount and Player 1 has hardly any chips. After originally calling and showing i was willing to take on low stack I obviously fold my 6's because why else in that situation would someone go all in with less than a monster/decent hand?
Obviously the low stack has less chance to win 3 handed vs 2 handed. Anyways, I fold and Player 4 flips over Q10o and goes up against the micro stack with AKo. Flop is 26K. Turn J. I forgot the river but the set of 6's woulda elimated the short stack but instead his AK holds up. I so wish i called that pot just for spite. Q10?? I get ICm and you want to maximize whatever but in that spot?
Luckily next hand chip leader goes all in now with j5o against Player 2 holding KK. The J5 hits the K high str8 after the low stack makes a set. PLayer 1 also eliminated to some more BS the next hand. I lose the next hand 8's in the hole have no idea what happened as i turned away but im sure it was some kinda BS lol. Tourney lasted like 5 hands after break.

I'm definitely OK with the result. I am just puzzled as to how that kinda play translates into a winning strategy. I dont use chat so maybe its personal but its just baffling.
Hate to say it man, but there is nothing wrong with that play other than it being a tad overly-aggressive. Not much room for complaint.

When you flatted the short stack's 5k you capped your range and allowed the big stack to exploit your fold equity to get HU with 3-to-1 odds (including antes). AK is only a 2-to-1 favorite against Q10 preflop. Although it may have seemed crazy, over a large sample size if you fold 66's to his shove at least 8/10 times, that's a very profitable play on his part.

My recommendation would be to raise the 5k next time to around 10k-12k, with the expectation that you might have play post flop, or fold if he 4bets. Or better yet, you'll have AA and you can flat and then snap call his aggro-jam.


Side note: Moved back to Ignition (after 2 years) after returning from WSOP due to consistent issues depo'ing on Global. Global's MTT player pool is laughable in comparison. They run 12+ nightly tournaments that are 5k+ gtd which half of the buy-ins are $11 to $33. The 3 best being a $25+2.5 25k gtd, $25+2.5 10k or 15k GTD, and $200+16 30k or 35k gtd.

For anyone MTT grinders, you if can handle using BTC for deposits/withdrawals (1-3 days), I'd recommend checking it out. Not sure I'll be back to Global anytime soon.
07-18-2018 , 12:14 PM
Pretty standard. You're pretty much always folding. He's isolating to get it heads up. He's in 1st place by a huge margin so the immediate ladder from 4th to 3rd is nice, but he'd rather play for chips as he'll get that ladder eventually if he loses the hand.

      
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