Hi 2+2,

I haven't come across any threads in this sub-forum which are dedicated to SNG discussions. I thought it would be a good idea to start one.

Hopefully this doesn't decline into a lightning rod for rigtards complaining about this or that, but I won't keep my hopes too high. Obviously, substantiated claims should be acknowledged, but I've seen some ridiculous claims in other threads on here.

I'm looking forward to chatting with some fellow Global SNG grinders. My sn is hymn_of_doom.

DrMoonshine here. Nice to meet you


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Sup, I’m el_clarko . Reg on the $100 9 man.

Nice to meet you, DrMoonshine. I've seen you registered in some games, but I don't think we've played. I'm grinding the $6 full-ring regulars and the $11 6-max regulars. You play higher, right?

I also saw you in the Poker12 thread, and thought your contributions were solid. You really think SNGs are going to die off soon?

Thanks for introducing yourself, and hopefully I'll see you at the tables soon.

Yeah I do. By the end of this year. The highstakes SNG players aren’t even making 1/4th of the 2k NL and PL cash game players

Hey man, thanks for introducing yourself. I've never played that high, but I'm grinding my way up there. Do you play regular speed or turbos? I've heard those stakes are super juicy, but I'm sure they are a bit tougher than the $6 and $11 ones I'm currently grinding. Did you grind up to the $100 games, or did you deposit a roll and start from there?

Cheers!

Yeah, that does suck.

However, won't there always be punters who play sngs? I guess your point is there won't be enough action to make a decent living from sng grinding?

When I first started playing on GP, I preferred (and still do) the non-turbo. Unfortunately, the highest stake for non-turbo 9 man is $40 lol. I started with the $50 Wayne turbo without a dedicated bank roll and profited around $700 the first month. Then took a nasty downswing to -$800 lol. Gained traction again in April to rank 1st in profit for $50 9 man turbo. All 9 mans up to $50 are easy IMO. I have noticed a slight increase in Variance (minus my random spewy moments) in $100 9 man for the month I've been playing.

NOW, I have a true bankroll for $100 SnG from my winnings over the past 2 months and work salary lol.

this is so dumb

Of course people beating 100 and 200 dollar turbo SnGs don't make as much money as people beating 10/20 nl; that has been true since the invention of no limit hold 'em, and it has stone nothing to do with SnGs dying or any other stupid thing.

What? Check the SNG leaderboards from 2015 to now on sharkscope..


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The average amount won by cash game winners on hsdb or PTR gets lower every year as well. The game of poker is less popular than it was, obv, but it has little to do with SnGs by themselves.

But even if that weren't true, the fact remains that 10/20 100+bb poker with a THREE THOUSAND MAX BUY-IN is a way higher game than 200 dollar SnGs and thus the comparison is completely non-applicable.

If they spread, like, 500-1500 buy-in SnGs you'd maybe have a comparison.

Yeah it's been that way from day 1 of poker and will always be that way. People are still gonna play sngs. You must not have much knowledge of poker pre global.

I also do not think sngs will be dying anytime soon. So many recreational players hate cash games, and don't have the time for mtts, so they punt in sngs.

On another note, I've cashed in 3 of my last 18 sngs. Hate these stretches, but gotta keep registering. If I could get KK to hold against anything, that would be sweet.

Yo hymn_of_doom!

I just moved up to 6$ 9mans, see you in there. SN is spacecowboyspike

Hey, spacecowboyspike! Thanks for introducing yourself. You have a killer graph for sngs! Looks like $6 full ring sngs are gonna get a little tougher with you there. Looks like you played a lot of $3 turbos, but will you play mostly turbos or regulars at the $6 games?

Yesterday was gnarly, and I quit shortly after crying about my laughably small downswing in here. Sorry about that, guys.

I need to stop berating fish when they beat me in sick ways. It's definitely not good for the games, nor is it good for my mental well-being. Maybe I should block all my chat, which I've been considering for a while now.

I also lost a wireless mouse to a Gronk-like spike onto my hardwood floor. Sad, I know.

I got Global to ban my chat for this exact reason and it's been so so good for me. I try to mute everybody else's chat as well. If you're speaking to me on Global you're speaking to a ghost.

I've never Gronk-spiked any mice but I have made a few holes in my walls over the years. Gambling is a B.

DarthLoud here, nice to meet you mate. I just put $5 on global. I plan on building that to 100 in a couple of weeks and grinding some of the larger sng's.

Just ran a bit hot, really need to get a bigger sample going.

I tired grinding 6m at first but the 9m's were filling faster. same thing happening with turbo/non turbo. Seems you have to reg both to get some volume going. So i'll be grinding both

Hello fishies.

Do you guys have any tips or strategies for getting gold coins? I want cool Avatars. I made one small deposit, I doubt I'll be needing to make another.

Muck_mcdermitt

Tilt issues and lack of bankroll discipline have kept my online bankroll from going anywhere. Ran up a nice roll when I started on the site, but managed it poorly and torched it off at 100 & 200 SNGs after a run of successive bubbles. I deposited $5 last week and am going to manage it correctly this time and hopefully make it into the bigger SNGs one day. Currently grinding $2 Hypers, $3 turbos and $1 27 players, while trying to improve my game. I recognize some of you!


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Self-banning from chat is good idea, I should probably do the same.

LOL, I've done a lot when it comes to losing my temper from online poker. Broke a laptop, spiked several mice, but no holes in the wall yet.

Gambling is indeed a B at times.

Hey DarthLoud, welcome to Global. Good luck on your quest. I'm all for building rolls organically, but I usually start from $50 or $100. It takes a tremendous amount of time to grind from $5, and since the lowest stake sngs are .50 cents, you'd still have a high risk of busto, even if you're a good player.
That said, "busto" is only losing $5 in this case, so I guess it doesn't matter.

Let us know what happens, either way. Thanks for introducing yourself, man.

Nice, I'll be seeing you at those $6 tables! Get that volume in, I know I will be!

I know all about tilt issues, and poor BRM. I used to be horrible. Now, I'm a bankroll nit, and that doesn't change when I'm running good/bad.

Tilt, on the other hand, still is a problem for me. I used to have enormous tilt problems, but now I'm a lot better at quitting after tilt sets in. I used to torch rolls in an hour in PLO 400 after building them for months from a $50 deposit playing sngs.

Check out "The Eighthfold Path to Poker Enlightenment" by Tommy Angelo. It helped me with controlling tilt.

Good luck man! Hope to see you in some of my games soon.

This is extremely good advice. It's also how I built my roll, deposited I think 50, played the 3 and 6 dollar games, went busto, deposited another 100 and eight months later I'm yet to deposit again. Starting with 5$ or 10$ is just too tough, you have to run well at the beginning.

I basically recommend you don't worry about RoR if you have enough money from whatever else you do in your life to take it. Deposit enough to have 15 buyins or so for whatever stakes and go for it. It's risky, but that's how you spin it up into big rolls.

I see all these guys like, "yeah I'm gonna practice good BRM for my .1/.2 nl game", and then a year later they're still playing .1/.2. If you're good enough to beat any micro online game with the big rake then you're leaving so much money on the table by not sacking up and depositing more.

LOL.

Sounds like you crush so hard, you could take your gold coins to the gold coin tables, rack up millions of gold coins, and qualify for the weekly $5k freeroll, ship that for $800 or so, then take that money to the $150 6-max hypers, and have a $20k bankroll working the week!

Better get to it!