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12-06-2018 , 01:08 AM
Obviously crushing it, but sample size is meaningless.

gl.
12-06-2018 , 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by hodler
Obviously crushing it, but sample size is meaningless.

gl.
Ah we finally speak! I have managed to chat up almost all of the regs besides you haha. I realized you were playing hella tables though.

But no I wasn't sure if I was crushing it, that's why I ask. I figured I was doing pretty solid though considering almost every player I look up is a losing player lol. Fish + high rake

Also that graph is the entirety of my SNG career, and I have improved a lot and am still learning, so that's a good sign
12-06-2018 , 01:31 AM
Yeah, I rarely talk on the tables. I can't even see chat because my tables are too small most of the time, and really don't have time

Results wise you've definitely been crushing it, but you just need a bigger sample because hypers are crazy and anything can happen over a couple thousand games.
12-06-2018 , 08:18 AM
Just looked at my sharkscope after not looking for 6 months or so. I had a spinning gold star with no idea what it ment. It took me to the leaderboards and how the hell I'm I so far up on them when I really hardly play? I've not played at all for months at a time, and half the time I have played has been cash games. Are those numbers even accurate? I would have assumed some of you have made far more.
12-06-2018 , 10:11 AM
I'd say they're accurate within a few thousand (SS has missed results here and there).

I think the biggest thing is the fact that there really aren't that many people who put in volume, then a few others are missing because stats are blocked.
12-06-2018 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by owl_
I'm at 1,479 sngs tracked on Sharkscope. What's everyone's opinion on how many it takes to calculate win-rate? I've heard 3,000 sngs, 2,000, 10,0000....etc.

Also, my average ROI says 16%, but if I pull up the more in-depth stats, there is a total ROI figure which says 14.8%. Not sure why those numbers are different, anyone know?
16% over 1500 games tells you that you're a solid player. If your true ROI was -5% for example the chances of you running at 16% over 1500 games would likely be near zero. There's just always peaks and valleys. The tough thing with Global and determining ROI is that there you can't get your EV ROI so you don't always have an accurate idea how good or bad you're running.

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Originally Posted by pokerbrat2002
Have we battled?

I am very new to SNGs, can someone tell me what they think of my stats on SharkScope? It does seem like I am one of the better Regs at the 16 and 32 Hypers

I was playing 2/5 live semi professionally and randomly started playing Hypers and fell in love but most of my strategy is intuition with basicish push/folds
Pretty solid! Low sample size in hypers is scary, have seen a number of hyper regs over the years run hot for a period, make assumptions about winrate and then get absolutely demolished. Myself included!

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Originally Posted by lacky
Just looked at my sharkscope after not looking for 6 months or so. I had a spinning gold star with no idea what it ment. It took me to the leaderboards and how the hell I'm I so far up on them when I really hardly play? I've not played at all for months at a time, and half the time I have played has been cash games. Are those numbers even accurate? I would have assumed some of you have made far more.
They're real and they're spectacular. Very few good regs have their stats fully blocked so the Global leaderboards are going to be pretty accurate.
12-11-2018 , 09:00 PM
Anyone ever played with Bluffington92 and Bgibbs at the same table and noticed anything unusual?

I've played several thousand hyper turbos, and never felt colluded against but something was extremely peculiar about how they were playing against me 3 handed.
12-11-2018 , 09:50 PM
Just check sharkscope, you can see info about regular opponents. Based on what I saw on those players on SS I would advise mailing support. Having said that I am Bgibbs 4th most frequent opponent (lol) but the fact they end up playing each other so often AND played in a peculiar fashion it seems suspect.
12-11-2018 , 10:09 PM
I'd probably want a sample size bigger than one of suspicious play, but emailing support can't hurt.

I haven't noticed anything fwiw.
12-11-2018 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by loveskunk
Just check sharkscope, you can see info about regular opponents. Based on what I saw on those players on SS I would advise mailing support. Having said that I am Bgibbs 4th most frequent opponent (lol) but the fact they end up playing each other so often AND played in a peculiar fashion it seems suspect.
Not subbed to SS, but been meaning to anyway so will check it out. Thanks for the heads up.

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Originally Posted by hodler
I'd probably want a sample size bigger than one of suspicious play, but emailing support can't hurt.

I haven't noticed anything fwiw.
Totally understand what you mean about only a sample size of 1 being not nearly enough to draw any definitive conclusions from. God only knows what people would think if they judged my play on such small samples.

At the end of the day thought, it felt incredibly strange but probably nothing. I've emailed support and will leave it up to them.
12-11-2018 , 10:48 PM
Actually, after looking at the sharkscope results I'm slightly suspicious myself. For bgibb's most frequent opponent, bluffington92 is his second most frequently played while the first is another account that ends in "92" and they've played 140/607 games together.

**** However, I've never been a fan of publicly discussing specific players that people are suspicious of so I don't want to go into this any further in this thread.
12-12-2018 , 09:09 PM
Speaking of Sharkscope, I’m currently 1st in the Maggie non turbo, Huntsville turbo, and the Wade for December. Been putting in a lot of hours the last couple of weeks! Also, I’m 4th in the Maggie turbo 6-max and 9th in the Wallace non-turbo. 37th out of 11k players overall in sngs. I’m excited to see where I end up by the month’s end.
12-13-2018 , 01:19 PM
https://imgur.com/a/CXAdXki

Just posting this as further proof that smallish sample sizes in hyper turbos can be misleading. Here's an example of a hyper-turbo player who was profitable through a couple thousand games but is now down significantly.
12-13-2018 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by owl_
Speaking of Sharkscope, I’m currently 1st in the Maggie non turbo, Huntsville turbo, and the Wade for December. Been putting in a lot of hours the last couple of weeks! Also, I’m 4th in the Maggie turbo 6-max and 9th in the Wallace non-turbo. 37th out of 11k players overall in sngs. I’m excited to see where I end up by the month’s end.
It says I'm in 4th for this month. Is there a way to get to the full list of players? I only found a yearly leaderboard for the SharkScope Global Poker SNGs

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Originally Posted by Insitefull

Just posting this as further proof that smallish sample sizes in hyper turbos can be misleading. Here's an example of a hyper-turbo player who was profitable through a couple thousand games but is now down significantly.
And thankfully for us he will continue to try and reclaim that glory he once had
12-13-2018 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Insitefull
https://imgur.com/a/CXAdXki

Just posting this as further proof that smallish sample sizes in hyper turbos can be misleading. Here's an example of a hyper-turbo player who was profitable through a couple thousand games but is now down significantly.

That actually seems very strange. That player seems to be able to consistently break even over large sets of games, and then has drops every so often.

The player has a few large drops in particular, and I would be curious if they come from playing higher stakes/playing tournaments.
12-13-2018 , 09:21 PM
I wouldn't call a 1000-2000 game breakeven/winning stretch a large set of games; I'd consider that a pretty small sample.

I know who that graph belongs to so I looked a bit closer and it seems like the more rapid downswings were exacerbated by high stakes, yes, but a big chunk of the losses during those swings still occurred at his average buyin. During the one breakeven stretch I checked (6000-7000 game area), running good at higher stakes is what propped his results up for that period of games.

Seems like perfectly normal variance for that type of player.
12-14-2018 , 10:44 AM
Hello,

We are contacting on behalf of the Game Integrity Team.

Thank you once again for your report of suspicious play in our games.

We have concluded that the play of Bluffington92' and Bgibbs' violated the integrity of our games.

As we believe that they were not aware of the seriousness of their actions, they have now been warned and will be allowed to remain playing on our site. Restrictions have been placed on their accounts however, so that they may not play in the same ring games or SnGs again.

The integrity of the games at Global Poker is of paramount importance to us and we will not abide unfair play in our games. Please accept our thanks for your timely report and continued play here on Global Poker.

Please do not hesitate to let us know anytime we can be of help.
Kind Regards,
David
12-14-2018 , 10:47 AM
Have mixed feelings about this, but will let sleeping dogs lie as they are just rec players & we all know the games need more of those.
12-14-2018 , 11:39 AM
Your suspicions were spot on then. After looking into it more, I definitely figured it was a case of two friends/relatives playing in the same games, but clearly they weren't very successful with that. I wonder if they looked into the other account I mentioned as well.

Also, did they at least refund your buyin?

Last edited by hodler; 12-14-2018 at 11:53 AM.
12-14-2018 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by hodler
Your suspicions were spot on then. After looking into it more, I definitely figured it was a case of two friends/relatives playing in the same games, but clearly they weren't very successful with that. I wonder if they looked into the other account I mentioned as well.

Also, did they at least refund your buyin?
I may follow up with them and bring the other account to their attention as well,but as you said they weren't super successful even with the advantage.

As for a refund, I would have thought that would be a no brainer, but that was the full text of their response posted above, no mention of one and no credit to my account unfortunately.
12-14-2018 , 01:59 PM
I'd definitely follow up to at least ask for a refund. Not sure why they didn't do it already.
12-15-2018 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by hodler
I'd definitely follow up to at least ask for a refund. Not sure why they didn't do it already.
Hello,

We will commenced an investigation into this additional player that you reported.

This will take between 1 and 7 days to get back to you with the findings.

We will also check for a possible compensation regarding this issue.

Thank you and have a pleasant day ahead.
Kind Regards,
David
12-17-2018 , 11:33 AM
Hello,

Thank you for your email.

We apologise for the oversight. You are indeed due compensation. $50.35 for a refund in tournament #5c09480437302a5ceb754328 and $58.50 for an advancement from 3rd to 1st in tournament #5c1056d037302a5ceb758bbd. We have now credited your account with $108.85 to reflect this.

We once again apologise for missing this and thank you for your report.
Best Regards,
Cassi
12-17-2018 , 12:01 PM
That's much better.
12-17-2018 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by hodler
That's much better.
Yeah, wanted to make sure to post that to give GP their due. They certainly stepped up and handled it properly in the end.

And as a side note...sorry for how hot I just ran against you 3 handed there lol.

      
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