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08-05-2018 , 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by DrMoonshine123
Sng traffic all time low...
I've noticed Saturdays are awful quiet the past couple of months. Traffic has been steady otherwise.
08-05-2018 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Sirbustalotz
How can anyone say HU sngs are worse for the beginners than Hypers ill never understand. Its not true at all its just people here defending the games they like. Theres more variance in 6max sngs and 9max sngs then HU sngs. Also the site has plenty enough players to have HUsngs. Much smaller sites have them.
a really good hu player is going to pound a limpy station and could realistically win 65-70% of the time with the right structure. Meanwhile, in a 6m or fr sng a bad player can still cash 20-25% while also being able to win up to 4.5 buyins. So that means a bad player can still breakeven or be a slight winner if he runs hot 2 and 3 handed, while in a hu sng they have a very small chance of winning over a decent sample at the same buyin level. Its not so much about variance, its about the roi of a bad player being much lower in hu sngs since of course you can only win 1 buyin, and they have to actually beat the field over and over instead of just running hot one out of four fr sngs.
08-05-2018 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by sirswish6
a really good hu player is going to pound a limpy station and could realistically win 65-70% of the time with the right structure. Meanwhile, in a 6m or fr sng a bad player can still cash 20-25% while also being able to win up to 4.5 buyins. So that means a bad player can still breakeven or be a slight winner if he runs hot 2 and 3 handed, while in a hu sng they have a very small chance of winning over a decent sample at the same buyin level. Its not so much about variance, its about the roi of a bad player being much lower in hu sngs since of course you can only win 1 buyin, and they have to actually beat the field over and over instead of just running hot one out of four fr sngs.


No one in the world winning 65-70% time
08-05-2018 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DrMoonshine123
No one in the world winning 65-70% time
its not so much about someone winning 65-70%, its about guys on global being capable of losing 65-70%
08-06-2018 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerONETWO
I think they're talking about hypers, not regular 6m games. 300 buyins is indeed way way way too much for turbo 6m/9m

There's this old website where you can put in stake and ROI and ITM% and it'll spit out a conservative/loose/very risky suggested bankrolls based on Kelly Criterion: http://www.bankrolltools.com/

you can't differentiate between hypers and non-hypers; it's just something to look at for an estimate

I'll look at SwongSim too. Wow, that takes me back. Swongs they r 1 thing.
There's no need to differentiate between hypers and non-hypers. Hypers are more swingy because there's not as much of a chance for a winning player to demonstrate an edge, so ROIs will be lower. If we already know our ROI then there is no difference between differentiating between hyper/turbo/regular.

That website just confirms that 300 buy-ins is ridiculously conservative. 1500 games is not enough to be confident in OP's claimed 10% ROI, but that's still a pretty solid result and we can safely guess that OP is at least a small winner. With $8k I see no reason not to be playing the $70s right now. I'd play with 100 BIs until he's more established.

Of course 100 BI downswings are possible, but extremely rare unless your ROI is like 1%. You're likely to have grown your bankroll significantly before such a thing happens, and if it does you should have already moved down to avoid busto.
08-07-2018 , 08:06 PM
You can tell these guys know nothing about HU sng poker saying someone is winning 70% of games LMAO. The variance is worse in hypers and other forms. To say a fish can lose there moneyquicker in husng format as opposed to Hypers is absolutely false.
08-07-2018 , 08:07 PM
You can play easily on a 40 buyin roll for husngs have always kept that and never went broke up to the 50$ level. Once you reach 100$ level you may need a little more. Try using a 50 buyin rule for hypers see how that does for ya.

The problem is people think HUSNG is the same as HUcash. ITs a whole different ball of wax.
08-08-2018 , 03:57 AM
I wouldnt be surprised because HU seems like the most skilled sng. Using 50 buy ins for hypers IS TERRIBLE unless I wanna switch stakes a ton.
08-08-2018 , 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by browni3141
There's no need to differentiate between hypers and non-hypers. Hypers are more swingy because there's not as much of a chance for a winning player to demonstrate an edge, so ROIs will be lower. If we already know our ROI then there is no difference between differentiating between hyper/turbo/regular.

That website just confirms that 300 buy-ins is ridiculously conservative. 1500 games is not enough to be confident in OP's claimed 10% ROI, but that's still a pretty solid result and we can safely guess that OP is at least a small winner. With $8k I see no reason not to be playing the $70s right now. I'd play with 100 BIs until he's more established.

Of course 100 BI downswings are possible, but extremely rare unless your ROI is like 1%. You're likely to have grown your bankroll significantly before such a thing happens, and if it does you should have already moved down to avoid busto.
A lot of people dont know how to shove and call correctly and thats a huge edge knowing how to shove correct. Super good on global bc only 3 mins of early game.

Roi changes depending on what type game. A 9 max reg wont know how to play a 6 max hyper. A normal 6 max reg wont know how to play a 9 max turbo as well or a hyper turbo.

Look at Hodler,Poker12, jaredpoker and I. All of us had a 100 buy in downswing. This month im down 700 abi 15 because I run like dog ****. That is almost 50 buy ins and I dont feel like moving up and down constantly. Tbf Jared and P12 have low rois but Hodler and I dont. Hodler was on a 200 downswing at the start. Maybe it was the higher games Idk.

Im gonna lay off hypers for bit bc I havent deposited yet after worldpay. My roll is 2500 on global. Im crushing normal 9 maxes and doing ok on 6 maxes.

Sorry if this msg didnt make sense Im tired af rn.
08-08-2018 , 05:06 AM
I think most of the brm sites suck.
08-08-2018 , 09:42 PM
Can someone tell me how sng volume is like on global poker network? Like what limits and how many tables on average? Also as long as you are in the US, you could play it right?


Would it be possible to 12 table or more sngs at say 11 dollars and up? I assume yes but only in the evening right?
08-08-2018 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulyJames200x
Can someone tell me how sng volume is like on global poker network? Like what limits and how many tables on average? Also as long as you are in the US, you could play it right?


Would it be possible to 12 table or more sngs at say 11 dollars and up? I assume yes but only in the evening right?


Nope not possible
08-09-2018 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulyJames200x
Can someone tell me how sng volume is like on global poker network? Like what limits and how many tables on average? Also as long as you are in the US, you could play it right?


Would it be possible to 12 table or more sngs at say 11 dollars and up? I assume yes but only in the evening right?
At the time of this post:
  • 17 -- 9mans running at $11+
  • 15 -- 6max running at $11+

That's including all formats: normal/turbos/hypers.

That doesn't mean you can consistently 12 table though; the software will make things difficult/impossible.
08-09-2018 , 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulyJames200x

Would it be possible to 12 table or more sngs at say 11 dollars and up? I assume yes but only in the evening right?
if you include all the formats, easily, at least from 8PM-1AM EST
08-09-2018 , 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by sirswish6
its not so much about someone winning 65-70%, its about guys on global being capable of losing 65-70%
As a long-time husng guy who really wishes global had husngs:

Assuming structures identical to PS, it's very very difficult for a recreational player to lose more than 56 or 57% of the time in a hyper (many recs only lose maybe 52 or 53%), and difficult to lose more than 60 or 62% of the time in slower formats.

I think the fear is overblown -- as a reg, winning 54% vs fish field (in hypers) or 58% vs fish field in non-hypers would be considered pretty impressive, and only a small handful of elite fish-crushing regs do better than that. Now, it's possible global still considers these numbers unsustainable, but the reality of standard-structure regspeed/turbo/hyper husngs is much better for recs than these "65-70%" numbers make it out to be.
08-09-2018 , 04:08 PM
how are some Mormons gonna come by when I'm burning trees and grinding SnGs?

Luckily, I fold so much that I didn't miss anything notable. I recommend playing tight enough in SnGs where you can fade Mormons. /strat
08-09-2018 , 04:11 PM
I also recommend winning A8s>A9s on the bubble and K4o>KK heads up, but that's advanced strat.
08-09-2018 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerONETWO
how are some Mormons gonna come by when I'm burning trees and grinding SnGs?

Luckily, I fold so much that I didn't miss anything notable. I recommend playing tight enough in SnGs where you can fade Mormons. /strat
Lol
08-10-2018 , 08:00 AM
Lol. I dont answer the door when Im playing poker unless its food or a friend.
08-11-2018 , 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Duncelanas
As a long-time husng guy who really wishes global had husngs:

Assuming structures identical to PS, it's very very difficult for a recreational player to lose more than 56 or 57% of the time in a hyper (many recs only lose maybe 52 or 53%), and difficult to lose more than 60 or 62% of the time in slower formats.

I think the fear is overblown -- as a reg, winning 54% vs fish field (in hypers) or 58% vs fish field in non-hypers would be considered pretty impressive, and only a small handful of elite fish-crushing regs do better than that. Now, it's possible global still considers these numbers unsustainable, but the reality of standard-structure regspeed/turbo/hyper husngs is much better for recs than these "65-70%" numbers make it out to be.
Finally someone who gets it. Wish Global Poker would listen to us.
08-12-2018 , 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by DrMoonshine123
Sng traffic all time low...
What a shame.

Karma is a mother****er.
08-13-2018 , 11:54 AM
husng on global would come down to who has the best seating script. Because global doesn't make a new lobby until the current game is filled
08-13-2018 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by David3
husng on global would come down to who has the best seating script. Because global doesn't make a new lobby until the current game is filled
Yea never thought about that david that would be a pain in the ass. Hopefully they will start spawning new games once a player regs.
08-14-2018 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by David3
husng on global would come down to who has the best seating script. Because global doesn't make a new lobby until the current game is filled
Yeah. Its annoying af for mass multi tabling 2.
08-17-2018 , 06:11 PM
RIP railing P12 on sharkscope

      
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