It isn't a glitch...

It is okay for players at Global Poker to be happy with the site. By continually calling people "shills" and "the global army", you simply appear insane and without credibility. I recommend a new approach.

I didn't really want to be in the Global Army, but I was drafted.

There is an inherent risk of collusion, bots, the site becoming insolvent, etc with any site, especially one not fully legal and regulated like Global.

What I don't get is how people seem to be so confident that their analysis of their individual anecdotal experience to be such reliable evidence of anything. I know humans love to do that, assume they understand the world because we're living in it and we like to think we're smart so we must be able to understand. But thinking that your observations of a very limited sample of something can be used to make reliable conclusions about the larger picture is a wild take.

If they are winning that much. at what point will the rigging algorithm identify them as a good player and take away their RNG benefits? Should be any moment now, right? You said they've been playing this way for months and still winning, why hasn't the doomswitch flipped?

Also, the play from Gurts' opponents in the linked hand histories were pretty awful, why isn't the rigging helping them instead?

If it isn't RNG and Gurts is a superuser with access to hole card/runout information, why did they choose to lose the AAK3 v TTA4 hand when they could have folded? Not like anybody else would have known they folded pre. Also, why wouldn't they have jammed the hand where they had two pair + flush draw vs two players with the nuts on the turn? They couldn't know that the other player would backjam and they had to worry that the flush would kill their action, right?

If it is only rigged specifically for Gurts and not for all players who are losing players, why would they risk millions of dollars annually to help a person beat PLO? That's a lot of risk for very little reward. Are we saying that Global has a team of players working for them that get special advantages?

If that's the case, why is their Sharkscope pretty weak? I realize they haven't opted in but when you look at the finish breakdowns they are a break-even HUSNG player... hardly what you'd expect from a person with a significant advantage.

https://www.sharkscope.com/#Player-S.../players/Gurts

I don't mind people bringing up these theories, this is how Potripper and Mike Postle were discovered. What I want is internal consistency in the arguments.

Well said.

Well said.

If I see Clay524 at a table I dont even sit anymore

There seems to be a group of affiliated accounts who usually sit together, not alone, and stack off light together in multiway pots,

These accounts often make miraculous hero calls and bluffs which, when looking at the hand histories, seem to benefit from removal info they shouldn't have. After getting cheated by colluders during that "rake race" type of challenge GP did months ago, and before that being cheated and barely refunded on ACR, I'm willing to trust my instincts

Global is so lolsoft. Get better at poker.

Yeah what HokieGreg said. If you can't win on global, you can't win anywhere. I just started playing last month (and by play, I mean a couple of hours a week) and am up more than 20 buyins, and just like lagtight I lose on literally any other site open to Americans.

It's pretty clear there are pockets of colluding accounts in every PLO lobby, including global's. I'm talking about sketchy accounts not cursing the RNG or superusers. I'm pleased with my WR too, enough that I wont broadcast about how soft the pool is on a poker forum

This!!!

If you're not winning on Global, you're unlikely to win anywhere.

Live...maybe...but then they can always blame the dealer

Everyone who questions the RNG said it does not benefit any single person. Yet you and others use that constantly. Is is odd. Its almost like you have a story in your head and refuse the reality no matter what.
The accusation is simply that the RNG allows bad play and bad hands to win more than their fair share. It is child's play to achieve and exactly in line with the corporation's #1 priority which was stated as not allowing the terrible players to go broke fast, get discouraged, and quit.
You might want to familiarize yourself with EA sports "dynamic difficulty adjustment" technology and lawsuit. They are able to adjust complex gaming in real time to help inferior players. Why? The exact same reason. They do not want the bad players to quickly get discouraged and quit. This is all just common sense. if you ever worked in the corporate world you know that morals are not the priority and people who move up the ranks are usually the ones who will break the rules to achieve their financial goals.
Be honest. How often do you see the best hand win? How often to you see the most moronic plays win again and again? It is so skewed you have to be blind not to see it. Also can you answer why the Jackpot S&G system was so broken they had to get rid of it? Something is wrong. I just really hope Global goes back to just running a fair game like the first 3+ years they were in business. It sucks having nowhere to play.

As I noted earlier, if you can't win on Global then you probably can't win anywhere.

Having said that, there are several other sites for US players, but it would obviously be bad form for me to list them in the Global Forum.

As many of us have said we won on Global consistently for years until this change. You say we are liars or all experiencing the exact same extreme variance.

The other places in the US seem to either have bad reviews, slow payouts, or is anonymous/no chat which in my book is not poker. There is nowhere credible in my opinion. I want the old Global back.

Keeping your customers is kinda a high priority for every business that relies on repeat business. Global is the only site in the US that I know of that you can literally play for real money for free.

Speaking only for myself, when I have the best hand preflop I usually win.

I'm getting kinda senile and as a result have a bad memory: who did I accuse of lying in this Forum? Thanks.

I agree that Global is the best option for US players (assuming their games are fair).

I'm not saying you are lying. I'm saying you're likely wrong and should focus on improving your winrate. Maybe you're right though... I'm just basing my reads on this thread off of population tendencies of people who start these kinds of threads without providing real evidence.

Tbf if I couldn't beat Global my ego would be plenty bruised enough to start shopping at the tinfoil hat store.

I am absolutely a Global shill though. I met some of the staff in LA and they're all great people.

Never met or talked to David Lyons but by all accounts he is a good, genuine person who gives a big **** about Global and its players whether or not they are whiny brain dead morons.

are u sure its as simple as that? just change the rng? im skeptical that its so easy to adjust an rng so that cards can be dealt appropriately in millions of situations every week.

Be honest, do you really play a game based in probabilities and statistics, and not understand that there is virtually no chance you're playing a large enough sample, and analyzing that sample objectively to the point where your experience can be extrapolated to trends across the whole site?

In this thread there were two accusations I was responding to. One in the OP stating that they believed some users had access to hole card and/or runout information and another alleging that a specific user had an advantage. My entire post was asking questions to challenge the hypothesis because that's the correct way to approach something scientifically. What story do you think I have in my head?

I'm not sure it is that easy when you consider that the company would also have to hide this from the people who individually certify their RNG. I'm not a computer programmer but I think having code that calculates equity and distributes cards based on those equities would stick out like a sore thumb. If they are changing the source code after it was certified I'm sure that this is something that can be discovered if you speak to the people performing the certification. If it was found that a site claiming to be certified by them was in fact rigging the game, it would tear down the credibility of the ones doing the certifying as well. It would be in their best interest to make sure that this wasn't happening.

The theory you've suggested also doesn't seem hold up when you consider that recreational players are going to shove hands like AA and KK as well. If those hands don't hold up as often as they should, that would frustrate those players and make them leave faster than if they lost a pre flop all in with T3o. Recreational players don't stay just because they get lucky, they will certainly leave if they think they're getting very unlucky.

It makes sense for a video game company to use dynamic difficulty in single player games so the worst Madden player on the planet won't get beaten by the CPU 49-0 over and over and eventually give up playing the game, but it would be wildly unethical to keep that technology active during any competitive mode.

The lawsuit you're speaking of was dropped by the plaintiffs when EA debunked the accusation that the dynamic difficulty adjustment technology was being used in the multiplayer mode that was being alleged.

Finally, as someone who has worked in the corporate world for a while, I can guarantee you that while morals aren't their highest priority, money is and they will always choose the path with the highest expected value. This is why some companies will pay fines rather than fix their shoddy business practices. It still nets them more money at the end of the year, despite being unethical. However, risking your whole portfolio of RNG-based companies for a few percentage points of profit would be pretty bad for your long-term EV.

This seems like an easy thing to test if you're confident in your theory. Get on the free money tables, shove over and over again, and record the results. Sample size matters a lot in this kind of thing (you'll probably want to start with 100k hands) so I'd recommend keeping a spreadsheet stating what hand you had, the opponent's hand, and what the equity you had and the outcome. You'll want to record all of the sessions as well for evidence or else people might claim you're making stuff up.

You should notice a big trend if the results are as obvious as you suggest.

Could you be more specific about your argument about the JSNGs? In searching 2p2 I came across a thread where David Lyons agreed that the top prizes weren't being hit often enough and vowed to change them, but not much else.

This is the best USA site that exists. It is also the safest USA site that exists. I have paid 7 figures of rake on the site and have got 0 rake back and they have paid me $0 to say any of this (never even had contact with someone at global other than support emails). If you don't like the site because you can't win here, you aren't going to win anywhere, so have some self respect and stop the delusional drivel.