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02-18-2018 , 03:26 PM
oh SORRY, they have 1 DS tourney once a day, LOL
02-18-2018 , 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SitandSpin
lol the tournament structures on this website might be the actual GOAT

it's a fast paced world, no degen on the move has time for 14 hour tournaments
LESS VARIANCE BUDDY, some people like to actually have there skill increase there chances of getting ITM in tourneys, SS fast blinds is not the way for someone like me, maybe you, not me.
02-18-2018 , 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by matt hirschhorn
I love the assumption that I MUST be a fish to question the validity of an RNG on website thats trying to make money, lol the medical industry pays off scientist to falsify data on prescription drug studies, and your telling me ITS IMPOSSIBLE for an online poker site to create more action on the board to generate more rake? lol
Anybody who spends time questioning the validity of an RNG on a poker website, especially one that never mentions anything more compelling than their feelings, is a fish, even if they turn out to accidentally be right (they don't).

You drop multiple misunderstandings of logic within each post you make. This is how I know you in particular are a fish. Luckily, some fish are capable of beating 2/5 live nl with a buncha old randos.
02-18-2018 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SitandSpin
Also am I the only person around who doesn't give a damn if the RNG is rigged or not as long as it's not rigged in some exploitable way?
you made this comment, im not even going to bother replying to you anymore, what a joke, yes people care you moron
02-18-2018 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by matt hirschhorn
LESS VARIANCE BUDDY, some people like to actually have there skill increase there chances of getting ITM in tourneys, SS fast blinds is not the way for someone like me, maybe you, not me.
The vast majority of players make massive ICM and other blunders in MTTs with very/extremely shallow stacks. Even huge winners like myself are guilty of this. If you want actual deep play, cash games run 24/7!

Anyway, the Grizzlies had a buncha "deep" MTTs that started with 3k or 4k chips with a normal blind structure that played totally similarly to MTTs on other sites. Some of the biggest ones even started with 10k or 12.5k. In one of the big ones I was in, ITM, every player at the table was 30bb deep. It's fine. Quit complaining and deposit more.
02-18-2018 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by matt hirschhorn
yes people care you moron
I'm just saying, if it's not exploitable it seems like the very definition of a victimless crime.
02-18-2018 , 03:39 PM
nah ill play on ignition and betonline, yeah less fish, but they atleast have better SNG and tourney structures, you know ACTUAL POKER, plus I dont have to worry about some BS RNG like this site.
02-18-2018 , 03:44 PM
actual poker is like 400bb deep stacked 8 game or some ****

you and I are playing donkaments

gl!
02-18-2018 , 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by matt hirschhorn
your a fish if you think these tourneys are the GOAT, the blind levels are simply to fast, AND there is no DS.
lol
02-18-2018 , 05:58 PM
bahahaha

there are multiple people who just obliterate these tournaments that are absolutely spewy superfish -- to say nothing of the people who lose

but ol' Matt H just can't get over that rigged RNG to take the free money

Redeposit!
02-18-2018 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by matt hirschhorn
what a joke, yes people care you moron
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Originally Posted by matt hirschhorn
whichever, i really dont care.

Good idea to keep all options available.

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Originally Posted by matt hirschhorn
nah ill play on ignition and betonline, yeah less fish, but they atleast have better SNG and tourney structures, you know ACTUAL POKER, plus I dont have to worry about some BS RNG like this site.
Not according to this guy. He sounds kind of like you, and like you - he just wanted to share his experiences.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/6...rigged-869233/

All the best.
02-18-2018 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SitandSpin
countless people that have been playing online poker for a decade+ have seen far more than 1m hands

if one counts every hand of tournament/sng/cash play I'm sure I've played well over 3m myself

The guy is dumb and saying a lot of dumb things, but you're the ignorant one there.
Don't be stupid. Your top grinders are topping out at about 300k hands a year.

Last edited by BoozedUpGambler; 02-18-2018 at 08:08 PM.
02-18-2018 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by matt hirschhorn
the flop shouldnt win on the river 50% of the time, but on GLOBAL, its constant
You must be practically printing money by folding every time you are ahead, and getting it all in every time you're behind. But I'm a little surprised you're sharing the secret of your success with everyone - they're sure to start doing the same thing, which is going to hurt your profitability.
02-18-2018 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BoozedUpGambler
Don't be stupid. Your top grinders are topping out at about 300k hands a year.
02-18-2018 , 08:34 PM
When I was 6-to-8-tabling 6-max on Stars in the mid-2000s, I would average around 4000 hands a day.
02-18-2018 , 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BoozedUpGambler
Don't be stupid. Your top grinders are topping out at about 300k hands a year.
I recognize that you're a boozed up gambler...

But if you play 300,000 hands a year, how many years do you need to play to see 1,000,000 hands?
02-19-2018 , 12:17 AM
This thread is hilarious
02-19-2018 , 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by FireFighter
This thread is hilarious
ya so is how my mind works.. check this out

so since the stt changes were made this week that I pressed for, I had 1 awesome day and 3 painful ones. Only one losing day tho and only 3bi's. Small sample but man I was upset, variance started affecting my play etc..

I just did totals from my excel spreadsheets and after 270 games (turbos) I'm @ ~7% roi and I feel that I've been running so bad I about threw up n my lap multiple times. Y'all remember me talking about "seeing ghosts" yep! So i got myself a couple beers and am watching Olympics, only after a beer was I able to tally results I thought it was going to be closer to 2%. Ill be back at it tomorrow afternoon/night. I need to calm the heck down geez.
02-19-2018 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BoozedUpGambler
Don't be stupid. Your top grinders are topping out at about 300k hands a year.
There was once a website, called pokertableratings, that tracked cash game play for PokerStars, Full Tilt and a bunch of other sites. Many players had way more than 1million cash hands played. Dudes would 16 table 50 hours a week, it shouldn't be a big surprise. Many people going for SuperNova Elite would play well over 1m hands a year, and the proof of it was right there on the website for anybody to see. Unfortunately, the site no longer exists.

That's to say nothing of SnG players who would 24+ table the games.

Don't be stupid. Read and learn.

/poker history education
02-19-2018 , 04:03 PM
You're implying that the majority of the people posting in this thread are hardcore grinders...

Never once did I say it wasn't possible, but I highly doubt the majority of people posting in this thread are seeing more than 200k hands a year.
02-19-2018 , 04:09 PM
lol what

what you said was:

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Originally Posted by BoozedUpGambler
Calling people ignorant, yet saying he has played millions of hands...lawl.

Even the most aggressive grinders haven't seen "millions" of hands.
I was directly refuting your inaccurate claim that "even the most aggressive" players "haven't seen millions of hands". All sorts of grinders have seen millions of hands. If you count tournament and cash play I've easily seen many millions of hands and there are people that play a lot more than I do.

All sorts of cash players saw more than 1m hands/year in the day.

Nobody said anything about the actual people in this thread except for you. Nobody.

Your argument is a direct argument-from-ignorance. LOL.
02-19-2018 , 04:12 PM
it's like, trivial to see 1m hands in a year if you're masstabling SnGs the whole time
02-19-2018 , 04:23 PM
I think this sub argument should be moved to another thread.. better yet a poll. Have you played a million plus hands?

In relation to this actual thread regardless of if someone has played millions of hands is irrelevant. More than 100k hands is decent enough sample to make real decisions and assertions on one's play. Not saying that members are exactly throwing up their hand histories to assist in their speculation( most claims are just generic whining), I am just saying you dont need to be a hand played millionaire to have valid concerns.

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02-19-2018 , 06:26 PM
I'm curious to know how many posters from ~8 months ago are still playing here. I skimmed most of the thread and the two things that have remained constant are 1. Monterey posting in here with such regularity one would think it's his day job (despite not even playing on the site) and 2. A bunch of new accounts with low post counts periodically coming in to say how great global is.

I've never seen the amount of bs on this site anywhere else. That includes when FTP was at its peak and also includes the majority of most live games I've played. I'm saying it is incredibly weird how many multiway pot coolers there are. seeing earlier posts from a couple other long time grinders that say the same makes it comforting. Because for a minute I thought I was losing my mind/ turning into the "riggers" I've laughed at for years on other sites and millions of hands played.
02-19-2018 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by upswinging
I'm curious to know how many posters from ~8 months ago are still playing here. I skimmed most of the thread and the two things that have remained constant are 1. Monterey posting in here with such regularity one would think it's his day job (despite not even playing on the site) and 2. A bunch of new accounts with low post counts periodically coming in to say how great global is.

I've never seen the amount of bs on this site anywhere else. That includes when FTP was at its peak and also includes the majority of most live games I've played. I'm saying it is incredibly weird how many multiway pot coolers there are. seeing earlier posts from a couple other long time grinders that say the same makes it comforting. Because for a minute I thought I was losing my mind/ turning into the "riggers" I've laughed at for years on other sites and millions of hands played.
Well if it makes you feel better I had commented either here or Pocketfives about a year ago about the frequency of quads being out of whack. Now I cant say that I thought the deal was "unfair" towards any particular player, just that the frequency of these rare hands was abnormal.

At the time I was tracking how often I would see them sitting at 1 table over the course of my sessions. The frequency was definitely way outside of statistical norm, but the deals appeared to be balanced.. so shrug.

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