Their model operates under sweepstakes law in the US. Not going to waste more time with you on this, it's been gone over ad nauseam here already.

This is more of a general statement, not really related to Global but more just gray area gambling/pokersites:

US Bancorp today was fined $600M for not complying with anti-money laundering laws. So if you think for 1 second that these gray poker sites aren't tampering with their games to squeak out more revenue then you are just gullible. It is highly plausible, highly likely, and probably true.

The only motivation for a completely honest game is when risk outweighs reward.

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What ai said was, to assume they wouldn't do this.... but they would basically do anything else to scam people doesn't follow any kind of logic. No, we don't have "concrete proof" that companies have manipulated cards becuase that's going to be one the hardest things to track as opposed to a sloppy super-user who gets caught, etc.

But to make an assumption that they "wouldn't do it becuase there is risk" ignores all history of how corrupt these companies have been.

Why would Wells Fargo manipulate deposits? Why would they gougue mortgage holders?

Because duh.

You're correct, WE don't know of concrete proof that cards are manipulated. But to assume they aren't for the reasons given is ludicrous. It's analogous to assuming a crime family would steal and launder money but never ever steal identities becuase "there is risk."

Read the threads here. Read them in NVG. This is a shady industry with a history of corrupt business practices. (Which saddens me becuase I love the game)

But it is what it is.

Lol then you simply haven't played on enough shady networks with low volume/ traffic.

Most recent 100% rigged RNG site I've played on was probably a couple years ago? There was even a thread about it on twoplustwo. It was a fake Chinese site filled with fake Chinese whales that won every single all in with absolute garbage hands in the most bizarre situations. Multiple regs reported exactly the same thing. That site turned out to be owned and operated by some Ukrainians if I'm not mistaken. It had legit looking software and everything too.

I'm not saying global is doing that. In fact it looks pretty good that people are 1. Winning and 2. Cashing out. But to throw out every suspicious observation as tin foil is ignorant.

Go outside of a poker forum. Talk to any non-gambler. Talk to any rational person in any other walk of life than a poker forum, and obviously they'd agree with this.
In fact, they'd probably find the notion that poker companies WOULDN'T engage of this of this to be insane... and only something gambling addicts would believe.


Are the cards manipulated? Who knows. Maybe not. Probably not?
But to rush to the defense of these companies as having some kind of business ethic or being too fundamentally sound to cheat in yet one other way is just irrational.

Just take 3 minutes and listen to the Phil Nagy interviews. This is the face of one of the biggest online poker sites going. He speaks like a common street criminal.

Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck... probably a duck

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It's irrational to think that company that was going to do something shady would opt for voluntarily exposing themselves to securities regulators when they could have gone into the grey market. It's illogical, too.

It's always good to be careful and be on the lookout for shadiness. So far, there has been nothing more than hunches or the idiocy of pre-selected winners. The absence of something is not confirmation of anything.

Sound logic here. Seems legit. Good thing availability bias, or confirmation bias, or bias in general doesn't exist and therefore make people BELIEVE something is true when it isn't.

Fun fact, those above things do exist, and ironically its what keeps really bad players playing poker... thankfully.

"Every time the flush comes in" the fish grumbles to me, "You seem to have it!" I smile and nod and drag the pot.

good post splayaa, and overall lately I approve of your postings sorry to let you down and not throw fits recently haha!

about the quoted part, another thing it's called is "seeing ghosts" the bad beats/cards of hands from the past. When 78s starts looking better preflop that AA and it's time for a break.

You guys are clever

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I was being sincere.

Ok so 1 site a few years ago that was an obscure chinese site? So your data is 1 out of 1000+ sites have had a crooked rng?

Most riggie beliefs end up being pretty much that - that they are setting it up to steal from them, and many times the rigs (like action flops) would not even make the sites any extra money, while adding risk that they get caught. Sometimes riggies will try to generalize it a bit more by saying it is rigged to screw "good" players (because they believe they are a good player), but for the most part the riggie puts himself as the main character in the poker universe.

One could say that Lock Poker, Full Flush and others did this by outright stealing the player money, but that is just part of the business ecosystem where some do well, and others fail. That has nothing to do with most riggie theories that require the companies to spend a good amount of resources to specifically target them, because believing that makes them feel better.

I get it that you want to be paranoid about businesses in general, because some businesses were not run well, or were corrupt, but all activities will have good participants and bad, because that is part of being human, and generally the good ones do better long term, and the bad ones fail or suffer for their choices. Welcome to life, and life is not spending a lot of its time and effort figuring a way to specifically river you, even if many people have that innate paranoia as part of their DNA

All the best.

Damn, do you or anybody else have a link to this? Couldn't find it after looking very briefly.

roughly 96% of "rigtards" think they are good at poker, and roughly 99.98% of them are in fact completely terrible at it

In other words, just like in all other competitive fields, people who don't succeed will look at external forces and blame them rather than looking inward.

It's almost like there's a correlation between "not hysterically freaking out over irrational ideas with no evidence" and "being good at poker".

This website has the softest online action you will see from now until the sun burns out. If you can't win here you should probably just go back to school.

ssssshhhhh

For what it is worth, I knew you were being sincere. Thank you for the kind words.

While I can't speak for big, never have meet him in person, I also happen to be good looking, rich, smart, eloquent, confident and humble. So I can see how being clever would fit into this as well.

You know that every single poker hand is like this, right?

If everyone stayed in the hand all the way to showdown then the winner *is* predetermined - by the shuffle.

No I don't. He wanted an example of a site having a rigged rng and I gave him one. Apparently that's not good enough for him Everyone has to come to their own conclusions. If you feel that something is off then trust your gut and stop playing.

To the people who are adamantly opposed to the idea that an illegal poker run by criminals/ scumbags would dare to cross the line again... I don't know what to tell you. Online poker has been riddled with these types of scandals since the very beginning. Coupled with the laws complete disinterest in prosecuting these site owners gives even more incentive to break the law/ defraud their customers

The example you are so proud of is

to which you cannot even show a link to whatever this was about here years ago.

With all due respect, if this is literally the best example you can give, then that actually speaks good of the industry (in terms of proven RnG issues).

Obviously if you believe all the sites are crooked and are out there to cheat specifically you (because you are indeed that important) then you should quit all forms of online poker to refuse those greedy backroom boy fatcats the opportunity they desire as they chant "MUHAHAHA!" while oiling their mustaches.

All the best.

Hey splayaa, if you're not already married, please send me a PM.

Full disclosure alert: I'm old, gray, ugly, poor, stoopid, inarticulate, anxious and boastful.

hello everyone, I deposited $10 on Global poker about a week ago, played for about a week in the cash games and was up to $130, games were UBER SOFT, even when I was up on this site i was still questioning the RNG, but the player pool was so low i kind of just ignored and I thought maybe its just a coincidence, anyways for the past 2 nights i just went through a ton of bad beats, probably around 20 to 40 bad beats, not exaggerating either, i dropped down to about 40 bucks at this time, I have never questioned the RNG on other poker sites, except this site, I have played millions of hands of poker and I have never seen the **** I have seen on here ever, and its not that bad beats happen, its the frequency that they happen on this site that drives me insane, I have 0 EVIDENCE THAT THIS RNG IS NOT RIGGED OR NON-LEGITIMATE, this is just my personal observation from playing on this site, anyways, I just want people to be aware if your questioning on this site, you may not be wrong too do so.

You were far too important for the evil powers that be to allow you to cash out a hundo in winnings, thus they spent countless hours planning and programming the RnG to specifically bad beat you in a blatantly obvious, yet sinister and unverifiable manner, probably to show you who was indeed the boss in this Orwellian universe.

You may want to consider going off the grid for a while, as the evil overdoers at Global are merely a low level front for the real evil that lurks behind them. Ever see the movie "Dark City." You are basically the same as the main character in that film, so do whatever you can to recognize the world you live in and fight back. Humanity is counting on you.

All the best.

Yep. But their argument is the winner is picked, and then given the correct cards to win, based on the flop that is rigged ahead of time. Then each of the 9 players are ranked by the sweepstakes algorithm so that if the "winning" player folds, it goes to 2nd place and so on and so forth. Its a small difference, but it makes a big difference in how things are actually working at Global.

So sure, the randomness of the deal does "pick a winner" if everyone stays in, but if I know the site could have picked me, I should stay in with any 2 because it might "just be my time" where as if the randomness of the cards picks the winner, I likely should play my hand as if I were playing poker.

Hopefully that clears up my thought process there, although it wouldn't be the first time I didn't explain things very well.