this is the worst site ive ever seen, this is beyond rigged. its like slots, the last 70 times i have turned the nuts i have lost to a better hand on the river. all documented

All documented, much like the proof you said 4 days ago that you'd be posting?

On another note, perhaps you missed this post, in regards to your accusation against one particular poster:

I don't think it's reasonable to allow you to go around accusing someone of rigging games against you without proof, so you have three choices:

1) Show your proof
2) Retract your statement
3) Enjoy your permaban

Any more posts without doing 1) or 2) will result in 3).

Last "70" times.

Lol

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Well that proves it then. Well done sir, consider me convinced. Sure I normally like proof, but this one time I am going to go for it blindly. You do after all have 18 posts here in 2+2, and no one makes up lies on the internet.

But for all of the other haters and non-believers, who like logic and reasoning, could you give us even a shred of evidence?

Calm down brother. Global is not like any other site that runs now adays (is that even a word?). On a "regular" site you should rarely be going to showdown, but on Global people are calling huge amounts of money with an inside straight draw, middle pair, or nothing at all. As you know on a normal site with normal players people usually do not call off 70 big blinds to catch a heart on the river when they have the nut low four flush.

You have to play different here and don't think your ace blocker will deter them from going all the way to the river with a low flush draw. Same goes for other hands.

Keep good notes, assume they are going to call your 10x preflop raise with 9 3 off and go from there.

No.

Nowadays is, though.

Thank you Mr. Bobo Fett

I would like to know if the global rep has responded to this thread. if so, could I please get a link to that post? could that post be referenced in the OP? I would just like to see the official line from global regarding their rng. thanks in advance.

From the forum page, if you click on the number of replies in this thread, it'll bring up a pop-up with everyone who has posted here. One of the reps has 4 or 5 posts ITT; if you click on the number beside their name, it'll show you their posts.

I have posted this many times in several threads. People need to scroll back or use 'search' feature.



http://itechlabs.com.au/certificates...a_15022017.pdf

PS. A rep should either have their site updated or pin the link to the RNG certification to the top of this or another thread. No reason for not having it available for everyone on the site.

HOW RANDOM IS THE CARD SHUFFLE USED BY GLOBAL POKER?

The RNG used by Global Poker utilises a Mersenne Twister with background cycling. This was certified by iTechLabs on 15 February 2017 who confirmed that it uses a well known algorithm to generate random numbers. The numbers generated by this RNG have passed Marsaglia's "diehard" tests for statistical randomness. iTech Labs has found that number sequences are unpredictable, non-repeatable and uniformly distributed.

https://globalpoker.com/page/faq

I did not know this.

also, sorry that I didn't know what to search for or try to search. I admit that I didn't. forums are pretty clunky for this type of thing. I probably could have found the info without my post I guess. I wish it were easier to add the relevant info of every thread to its title or op.

that said, thanks very much for the quick replies. it seems that some people are 100% convinced that global doesn't use an actual randomizer due to the whole "sweepstakes" thing. I admit, when my very first hand on the site was a flopped straight that lost to a boat, I was worried lol (~2 mo ago).

further questions: is the full "ITechLabs" audit publicly available? will you also have your rng audited at fixed or random periods going forward?

fwiw: I personally believe that global IS legit wrt its rng (not that my opinion matters at all). I'm just putting in some effort due to the convos I came across on a sportsbook forum.

People should also take a look back at a previous post I made here as well and to the question of even if the RNG isn't working well, does it matter? TLDR version is no, it really doesn't. What matters if it is broken is it always broken. What you don't want is for it to be broken in a way that favors one player or another.

If I played at a home game where the players were terrible, and had lots of cash to throw around, but told me they are superstitious and don't like straights, so in their game a straight doesn't beat high card, then I would adjust my play style to take advantage of the "new game" we are playing.

But if I went to a home game where the players were terrible, and had lots of cash to throw around, but told me they are superstitious and I am not allowed to make straights, but they are, in fact they only need 4 cards for a straight to bet my trips, I would find a new home game to play in.

So the same goes here. If you truly believe the RNG is causing more quads, or more boat over boat situations, or any of this stuff that has been suggested, the question you have to ask, is "Have I changed my play style accordingly." shawnb4595 kind of makes this point above talking about how the play on here is different than it is in other places. He isn't meaning do this because the RNG is broken, he means this as the play here is looser than other places, and I agree with his statement, but believe it applies to both the loose play and the proposed RNG faults.

You will never convince me a site is doing RNG perfectly, because generating truly random data is an extremely difficult thing for computers to do. (Side note:neither is the dealer at home game shuffling all the time for perfect randomness either). But RNG can be done extremely well, and ultimately as long as it doesn't favor one person over another, I am not sure its even matters.

Now if you can PROVE that the deck is set in such a way to make sure you lose and others win, well that is a different kettle of fish, but that has nothing to do with RNG. Notice the emphasis on the word "prove", as I have yet to see that either. This comment, a toast to you matt, still waiting.

great post. also, I think a much larger issue than "is the rng fair" would be "are player deposits segregated/safe". we should all probably spend our effort worrying about that instead of this.

Hey mate, no worries about not knowing how to search through this thread. Personally I have zero idea how to do this either!

In regards to your other questions. I don't know as a fact but I don't know if it is publicly available, I would assume that it isn't as it may provide insights into how ITechLabs works which they don't want to share. I will ask though.

As I was writing a guy from our security team just walked by and I asked him about re auditing the RNG. It seems that standard industry practice is to do this every few years. As we are still not even a year old I would say all us fine for now!

I would agree with you feelings on this. I feel like it may have been discussed on the forums in the past, but this is a long time back now. And maybe it is just my memory wanting me to believe I saw it.

No deposits, you purchase the gold coins. Their redemption is met from their cash on hand, as explained in their business plan/financial filings and annual audit. You can search for 'vgw synergy asx prospectus' for the specifics. They didn't close the deal and planned on a straight up IPO in 2017. They raised $7 million, +/- I believe, and the financials/reports are on file.

The biggest safety valve the players have is their financials are audited and available for others to see via public filings. If management, long term stock market people, pull a fast one....they know full well the consequences they will face. Yes, some grimey companies still absconded with money, but most were very small and relatively new players. Madoff, Enron, etc...are a rarity.

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I was shocked that we had to go with door number 3.

Thanks dewd, I was hoping you were still looking at all of these posts and would chime in on the finance part. That seems to be an area you understand better than most.

Investment banker and hedge fund manager for the last 28 years. Somehlwhat familiar with the stuff

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oh ya right, no deposits I forgot about that. so I wonder if they actually have any real/legal obligation to cashout? besides trusting them to do so of course. also, since they aren't deposits they don't have to segregate player $ at all I suppose.

Cashouts are painless?

Well, their business plan is on file with the ASX and they get audited. Using the m onies for anything but payouts would likely get them a vacation in prison. Since they are audited, it is not likely to happen although not guaranteed obviously.

You can also take into account the that the CEO, I believe is his title, was an investment banker for years and ran William Hill. He is probably used to living a lifestyle that offers a bit more luxury than an 8' x 10' cell. I'd bet he prefers to keep it.

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yes, well hopefully everything continues as is. ive just seen too many "100% safe" companies/investments/whatever end up going south. the new/gambling model just adds another layer of risk (of course it seems like they have really found a good niche and everything is legal and running well).