Just hit him with that Adam Sandler video and move on. Not like you can change the mind (such as it is) of someone like that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKjxFJfcrcA

Bobo when can we start just banning people who have IQs less than 50? This is making me sick that there are people this dumb running around this Earth with access to the internet. Keep posting long paragraphs bro they really drive home your stupidity.

Yes, I know that one hand alone isn't why you think the site is rigged, but it's part of it. I was simply pointing out your terrible logic and understanding of odds. Even here, you're coming back to the odds of running KK into AA one hand after having AA yourself, for I don't know what reason. It's irrelevant. Completely irrelevant. The odds of that happening are the same as the odds of running KK into AA one hand after having 33. Who cares? The only reason for you to think it's relevant is because you're *still* of the belief that those odds were in play on the second hand. They weren't. Once the first hand is over, the odds of running KK into AA are exactly the same as they are in any other hand. Not an unusual event at all.

I'm not sure what "win rate vs the suck out rate and the preflop strength % all factored in" is supposed to mean, but I don't think many people gauge their results by the % of hands they win. Typically one looks at win rates in terms of BB/100 hands, and you're usually looking at tens of thousands of hands before you even know what your win rate *should* be. So, a lot more than 72 flops.

If you think this is in any way relevant or comparable, I don't know what to tell you, other than work on your game and stop worrying about the bad beats.

Sorry brother. When I came across this thread searching google for RNG Verification on Global Poker I wasn't aware that there was a mutual sponsorship between this site and theirs. As you said I should read the posts more and I did and now understand that your defense of Global Poker is both not void of bias and/or reward. My guess would be that since you and bobo and a couple of others seem to respond to comments on this site with regularity and speed that you are clearly associated with it on some administrative level. I cannot ask a rep for help because I cannot get what I want as an outcome. I wanted fair play. That's it man. I didn't want to be punished for a "cash out". I didn't want to be placed in the same unfortunate seat 2 weeks in a row at a tournament table. All I wanted to do was play poker and use poker strategy and a poker calculator to maximize my investment. At the end of the day I was removed and stolen from by Global Poker administrators based on a lie. That is indisputable. I don't have more than one account. I don't have more than one account active. I don't have more than one account period since my former account was terminated per request based on play results and tampering from somebody on my end. If I'm not welcome or allowed to play there anymore that is acceptable as long as they deposit the bankroll on my account to my PayPal. Any other outcome is thievery. I didn't want to be removed from the site as I felt I was getting a good grasp of how it runs and had a decent chance to make some money or at least recover my entire investment as I was about a hundred in the red. I'll delete all my posts as you have suggested since they are useless on this site. I'll seek justice by exploring as many avenues as I can which at this point goes beyond $87 in bankroll. I was halfway to my 500 flop requirement for the week which is where the most fun and challenge happened except when my opening table put me at a huge disadvantage. Eh... regardless I won't say that coming to this site was for naught. Education was given. I feel that some of my concerns were verified and others completely obliterated. I'll use it going forward.

Or not because I do not see a delete option on older comments

So you multi accounted or no?

I suppose it depends on your semantics about multi-accounting. I asked them to terminate my account and they obliged and verified. At that point there is no longer an account. The email said that if I changed my mind and wanted to open an account in the future that they would not be responsible for my play or something along those lines. I wanted to close the account for 2 reasons. My brother had access to my account and was using it without my permission, and I was no longer interested in losing the hands I was losing. Several days later I opened a more secure account using my personal email address (instead of the account I use for business; though they are very similar but from two different email "servers??" not sure if that's what they are called) and a new password so he could no longer play as it wasn't set up on the PC to be "remembered" as a one click sign in. Does that make sense? So no... I did not have more than one account. I had only one account Active, and only one account that I could log into and play on.

If theriddick isn't the classic poster of many names, the most memorable of which is Greg Olden, they must have had the same English teacher.

Ah, nope.

Yes, I sell ads for 2+2, and Global is one of our customers. Believe it or not, that has nothing to do with my posts here. I guess you didn't notice, but I didn't say a word about what I think of Global's RNG, or anything else about the site. I pointed out your ridiculous sample sizes and terrible odds calculations. But what I do or do not post about Global doesn't affect whether they continue to advertise or not.

You can choose to believe that or not. But even if I was on their payroll (LOL) and being paid to criticize your posts, that doesn't change the content. Everything I said was on the money, and if you want to dismiss all of my points because of some imagined bias or reward, that's on you.

You could ask a rep for what is reasonable. You could ask them to allow you to withdraw your money and be done with the site. I don't know if you're in the right to be doing so, because I don't know for certain what transpired with both accounts, but if they truly have closed that account wrongly, that would be a reasonable thing to ask for. Mistakes happen.

Now, you could decide that's not enough. That they owe you some kind of compensation and damages for what you feel is such poor treatment. I think you'd do much better dealing with the site than you would through some kind of legal action (I think that's a road to nowhere, TBH), but that's up to you.

Trying to get money because you think the site is rigged? Based on your logic and know-how demonstrated so far...don't waste your time.

Annnnnd the other shoe drops. Perhaps.

Maybe you should have another look at that email, because it sounds an awful lot like they closed your account with the belief that you wanted to do so because of a gambling problem. "not be responsible for my play" is a pretty big red flag, and it sounds to me like you weren't welcome to just open a new account and start playing again.

Now there's a blast from the past. Perhaps it's my memory, but I'm not getting an Olden vibe at all.

It's the way some of his sentences don't resolve when you think they're going to, plus the kind of left-field metaphors and the obviously very high-level vocabulary with below-average skills at deploying it. Those may not be unique but they're certainly unusual. I don't know very many people who could even type this, and I know a lot of weird authors.

At least he isn't that Nash nutjob either. This guy is a fairly standard slow thinking, delusional, paranoid riggie - not much more.

He is not even a top performing manifesto riggie like this guy.


https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=64510

Why can't you ask a rep for help? Just write them, explain that you went off the deep-end with rants and silly threats, but it was out of anger and you realize it was wrong. Then explain your problem, what resolution you hope for, and apologize again for the nonsense. It isn't hard and most people respond well to sincerity...and not so well to foolishness. Find a post from the Global rep, click the name, and then send private message. Explain your issue without accusations or randomly capitalized words and you should hear back in a couple of days. They are in Australia and likely enjoying Friday night happy hour at the moment. You may not get a reply until you check it Tuesday morning.

As far as any bias or reward, um no. I have pointed out shortcomings regarding Global and cheered on the positives. There is no greater positive than asking for money and being able to put the cash in my grubby mitts at the atm the next day. If you add in the amazing amount of horrible players and no software, then I am a fan of the site. I'm also a fan of logic and facts. I would happily take some rewards or something from Global or any other site. I just don't have any desire to actually commit to the 'earning' aspect to receive such rewards.

By the way, how do you conclude that I am somehow compensated by Global and still point out that you could contact the ASIC if you actually thought there was fraud or thievery occurring?

I certainly didn't say that either you or dewd's posts were irrelevant or void of truth, nor that they didn't deserve validation based on any relationship; I simply stated what I felt based on the content of your many posts, and how frequently and timely you reply. It felt like there was a connection on some personal and/or professional level. My account was also not closed as a product of a gambling problem. I can't say I don't gamble because I do, but I don't play games that are solely based on random draw. Fantasy sports and poker; that's the extent of my "gambling" as I suppose it's rightfully labeled. I willfully requested to close the account based on both criteria previously mentioned in a consistent nature and the support staff obliged. Nothing to do with addictions on any level; never a hint of that being the nature for wanting to close the account. No red flags at all in that regard. After several days of late night boredom I figured that as long as I opened another account with a different name and password, and left the log-in information unsaved on the computer that there was no way my brother or anybody else using my PC could use it. It wasn't like I was trying to deceive the site or hide anything from them on any level as the account was linked to the same PayPal. I think that would be pretty hard to get away with, but I don't work there so I don't know how much they pay attention to things like that.

No problem. You are a hero. Here is a trophy.

In the end, if you do not trust the site then do not play there and get on with your life. Not that complicated. They will continue fine without you, and in theory your life should not be changed either with this break. You are currently spending a great deal of emotional energy on your situation spouting all sorts of nonsense, which in the end nobody else really considers to be of significance.

Stop creating extra accounts in your brother/sister/dog's name and instead take a breath, count to 100, and move on.

All the best.

Fair enough, although I think you're a fair ways off in terms of the content of my posts as a whole (my posts in this thread or even this forum are a minuscule % of my posts overall), and frequency and timeliness is nothing more than a function of the fact that I've been online a lot this week and involved in an ongoing discussion with you.

To be clear, I'm not suggesting you asked for it to be closed because of a gambling problem; I have no idea precisely what you asked.

What is a red flag, and one you seem to have missed, is this:

"The email said that if I changed my mind and wanted to open an account in the future that they would not be responsible for my play or something along those lines."

Not responsible for your play sounds a whole lot to me like they're not OK with you opening another account (and "responsible" always makes me thing of responsible gaming rules), but of course it's hard to tell as that's just your own paraphrasing of what you think they said. Do you not have the email any more?

in 45 sngs tonite i got bubbled out of 2 by flopped quads. Aipf AA vs 77, flop 77. KK vs QQ aipf Q on flop Q on turn lol. I finished ahead for the session and cut it short cuz I'm having a hell of a time dealing with the "variance". I make $ here but I'm really getting sick of it. I get that y'all are trying to protect the games and the player pool etc but this is just absurd. I've cashed out a few k from sngs but im becoming a miserable and depressed person running so far under expectation and am about over it. Maybe poker isnt for me.

It doesn't feel real. I dont play video games, havent for 20 years but I get the NBA jam analogy and I agree with it. I either rarely miss or I rarely win a showdown, I feel the "variance" on GP is extremely polarized, perhaps that's just my own perspective and experience from my own sample.

maybe thats why they basically disabled the chat function on the tables recently cuz people complain about the deck so much lol.

@ splaya thanks for your post in reply to mine last week I appreciate it. Ive been trying to keep my head down and grind but now im seeing ghosts so I wont be able to pay rake for a day or two at least until I regain my bearings. This wonky "rng" has my head spinning and I no longer trust it, even though i win overall.

I find that last part really strange, like how can I be putting up good profit, hourly, roi #'s and still feel this way.

20% roi today and still feel like throwing up and punching a hole in the walll, also like I was somewhat robbed lol. Yay for weed off to the store I go!

To my surprise I do not have that email. I was certain I archived all Global Poker emails from that account in my hotmail folder but they are not there. I have the email that says I have been terminated for having "multiple Global Poker accounts created under your name and/or same IP address." which is from the only active account I had. The IP Address is completely irrelevant since they would have to shut down just about any public access player under that criteria.. and it's not stated in any way shape or form in their ToS. Anyway... your inquiry was not about that, I'm just still pissed as hell that Global used it as a criteria to back their play in regards to stealing my money. So... I do believe the content of that email I paraphrased was in rebuttal to a complaint I had about glitches (the site would just auto-sit randomly, it auto-shoved me once without ever touching a button, as it auto folded KK in a SNG once as well, and just other weird glitchy stuff. It once showed the whole table at a cash game my whole cards pre flop and I've seen other players whole cards in that manner as well on a couple of occasions) and my accusation that I felt that type of activity was a significant sign that the site was cheating. I also claimed displeasure of the beats I was taking 87-92% winning hands on the turn getting sucked out on the river. That was part of the criteria for wanting the account closed at the end of the day and why I think they reiterated that playing again was my responsibility; in other words my winning or losing was not their problem. They don't play the game... I do. That's what I took from it.

I'd have to reread but I don't think I said you were compensated by Global Poker; I believe I insinuated a relationship between them and this site and that I wouldn't be surprised if you were rewarded in some fashion by them. It's not a conclusion at all. Perhaps you play the site and make a killing? Then I would probably be correct in my "assumption" that you carry some bias in regards to speaking about their legitimacy right? I didn't make a killing. I was about to break even, but I believe I was on my way to making money if I stayed patient while also not cashing out more than I left on the bankroll. I do believe the site is... for lack of a better words.... preferential towards certain players. That's just speculation. However I don't think it's hard to find yourself on the good end of it. I had ideas of how to do that and felt I was on my way. I never said I could contact ASIC, you did. I just said it would be another avenue to explore. Clearly I'd have to spend some time studying ASIC more than wikipedia who seems bias in pointing out their faults.

You suggested I delete my posts. That option does not exist as I see it. Perhaps you can do the work for me and tell me how to terminate my account on this site? I came here a poor invalid boiling over at the brim and wanting to burn the whole city down because as much as $87 doesn't mean anything to many people in this world, it does mean a lot to me. I vented. Got sat down. Learned a few things. Now it's time to move on. I've invested far too much time into bickering on this site already and I don't see it as a source I'd use much going forward. Good luck to you in all things in life.

I can't believe no one commented no this lol.

No it's not "basically 2 outs to the turn" and you don't have a straight draw. In fact by definition you can never have a straight draw on the flop when you flop 2 pair. The aces can win with an ace, a 9, or a running pair, like if it came 2, 2. It's 5 outs on the turn and 8 more on the river. I'm going to guess that doesn't seem like much to you, but it's actually pretty significant in that 2 outs would only have about 10% equity to the turn and river, while the AA actually had 27%. The difference between a 9-1 dog and almost 3-1 dog.

^ One of the reasons that playing lower valued starting hands can be dangerous.

So much stupid ITT. I'm shocked people are responding so politely. Keep on keeping on BoBo!

No, it's not irrelevant. They terminated your account because you had multiple Global Poker accounts. They would have many ways of determining this - using the same name, same IP address, or other commonalities (address, banking info, playing style). They're not suggesting that anyone with the same IP address is going to be automatically banned; that would be ridiculous.

Or it might be that they were saying that it's on you if you open another account and have your funds confiscated, as they don't want you back after you accused them of cheating you. Unfortunately, I guess we'll never know for sure now.

You could have just reread before posting and saved yourself from looking a little silly:

Oh, I know, you didn't say we were being compensated - perhaps we are associated on an administrative level for free. And it was just your "guess".