More worried about how the site runs then bots and all that. Any problems with the software? ( glitches, freezing, lag) I am having lot of problems on wpn I will freeze and then I get kicked off the site and I can't sign back on unless I restart my computer.

Then how about some evidence?

wait a minute the highest limit is 10nl usd?

$10/20 for cashgames.

There really isn't a lag or typical network issues and I think that is probably due to the html5 programming over anything else. There has been a couple of times it crashed, but nothing close to a regular thing, twice for me in total.

My biggest complaints are the alert sound is too low, short clock, and the table doesn't pop to the front to when it is time to act.

lmao, like i said ill play you heads up in vegas for as much as you want and i have zero affiliation with global poker

Agreed on the alert sound, it is very low.

I don't mind the clock I think it is about right.

And I would love to see the table pop up in front, but the HTML5 thing might make that difficult.

Right, what I am saying is I have played with you and you are bad so it is not surprising to me that you are losing and blaming it on bots, rigged, etc. Wouldn't usually tap the tank, but you are firing shots at people calling them bots so I'm going to go off script here and tell it how it is.

The only thing of value you can do is not play there, as that is your power as a customer. Posting akin to a crazy guy on the street corner yelling at the clouds will not impact their business, nor will it impact whatever 2+2 chooses to do with them as a business. I guess if it makes you feel better that is something, but that is about it, if the content of your posts are going to be random screams without any real data to back them up.

Sounds like other regs in those games would prefer you stay on the site for what it is worth...

All the best.

When can we expect the RNG certification link to be posted. It has been over 2 days now and you have not responded to me.

If and when they post it you will dismiss it as being incomplete for some reason. That is what people like you do, so when you do that - what will be your excuse then as to why you will not do a simple test of the hand output to confirm your beliefs? You clearly will never do that hand history test (which is trivially easy for your beliefs), so you may as well prepare your future excuses in advance. Try to be creative!

All the best.

I guess you do not find it odd that they will not provide the certification they claim they have when all other sites provide the information. After all they paid good money to get certified. You would think they would be like everyone else and show off the certification. I wonder why they are not showing the certification.

What we do know is that Global Poker is not claiming to have their card shuffler certified by iTech. They are claiming to have a RNG certification which is consistent for casino games, but they have made no mention of their card shuffler at all. The certification will show if indeed their card shuffler was certified.

So you can keep burying your head in the sand. but so far they have not provided us any information to show they have a certified random card shuffler. They are saying they have a RNG certification, but that is not a card shuffler certification.

And Monteroy: I have not changed my position at all in this entire debate. You have changed and you have been proven wrong So get your facts straight because all you do is lie and post disseminate without any information to support your position. You can not answer questions. You can not explain why they are not posting the RNG certification. You can not provide any creditable piece of information.

All you do is lie and assert stupid incorrect statistical models that do not work because you do not have an understand of statistics. And when things do not go your way, you just change to a different conversation. But you feel like you are somebody because you can lie and it increases your self worth to know you can just spread lies.

They also have not posted a menu to Dennys yet. With that said, you can still prove your silly belief in a couple hours ( I showed you how) if you liked, but you choose not to do that.



Think it is safe to say that you and 100 heads in a row guy have demonstrated your respective abilities to understand simple math. You saying otherwise will not change that fact.

But since you believe you have actual math skills, then obviously you should be able to think of a simple way to test the belief that every all-in pre-flop between two players is a coin flip, regardless of the cards. Post your test and do it.

Hardly. I keep telling you to prove your beliefs and/or exploit them for profit, both of which would be trivially easy to do (if your beliefs were accurate). That is the constant message I have, and it is one you constantly avoid.

Your theory is a lie. You can prove otherwise (if your beliefs are true), so do it. Your constant need to avoid proving your LOLbad theory shows what you are every time you do it, which is why I keep setting you up to do exactly that. I know you will never test your beliefs for obvious reasons . You are going on and on about how they will not post certification, even though that has nothing to do with whether you can test your theory. If they post something you will simply dismiss it and continue to avoid testing your silly theory. People see through that pretty easily, even if you are determined to continue deluding yourself. I just have fun helping you do that for now, and predicting your obvious behaviors, because people like you are hard wired and very simple in the end.

Dumbest rig ever...

All the best.

You're very wrong on this one Monteroy. VGW has given the players that want it more power than themselves. Their video game token operation hurts them in just as many ways as it helps.

All the best.

You probably need to decode that message from your sticky note on the wall to one that makes a bit more sense. I am mildly curious to hear whatever your theory is, so please post the details of how it all works, and feel free to link it to the every all-in is a coin flip belief as well if you can.

All the best.

I don't need to decode anything for you. Nor will you be hearing of any theories because it's not a theory when it's been proven to work for a number of others and myself. I got the last laugh. I'll be laughing again when this company is gone and everyone's Sweeps Cash is never recovered because Sweeps Cash holds no value until you receive a withdrawal/payout.

All the best.

PTS1: Why care so much? Don't play there, devote your energy to something else, move on, give it a rest, maybe take some math lessons.

Your test theory has already been proven to not work as you expected. Your current test theory model is only measuring results of a coin flip and would only be a measurement of results. It would not at all be a correlation between poker hand probability and results because you seem to think hand probability is constant.

For a proper test to be conducted, you would need large amounts of hands to establish a multitude of parameters to test. This would need to be at a full ring table with access to all hole cards. This is data that is not available at this time because hole cards are not provided and HH are not downloadable. Of course all of this is for naught, because an independent company has already tested the data. We just need Global Poker to provide the results of the data.

Now if you want to do a HUs match and use your model to see who wins the hand and count how many times each player wins, that is what your model will do. But you can not use your model to correlate hand probability to winning. The sad part is, once again, you think your statistical model is right, but once again you just do not understand statistics. If you think you are going to play 200 hands and the hand probability is the same throughout every hand and on every hand, then obviously you believe 100 coin flips in a row is possible. Revisit you model and get some help with it You need it.

Monteroy: Why try to convince him otherwise? Move on, let him and his claims be.

I do not play at Global Poker. I have stated before that Global poker is running a legitimate business. They have a business model that is legal to play in many states in the US. They offer a fun and exciting game to play. I do not believe they are out to rip people off. I do not believe they have any intention of stealing peoples money. I truly believe they are providing a fun and exciting game, and if you win, they will pay you out.

My only concern is that this is not a true poker game. It is a sweepstakes game design to look like a poker game. It plays like a poker game and it is fun like a poker game, but it is not a poker game. I just want players to understand the game they are playing.

Howard Lederer and Chris Ferguson lead one of the biggest deceptions ever against the poker community. As a result, online poker players in America have suffered greatly. We all want online poker to return to the US. We do not need any other scandal out there that will prevent this from happening. I am concerned that if Global Poker continues to grow, and continues to gain popularity, then if it is later revealed this was not a true poker game; then this could be another potential set back for the online poker in the US.

PMS you truly are a real piece of work. So worked up over a site you don't even play on. You have way too much free time. You should focus on curing cancer or solving world hunger with your level of intelligence proving that Global is not real poker when you have 0 statistics nor even experience playing on the site.

Montery; Quit showing your ignorance and quit categorizing my comments.

You continue to use this saying that every all-in is a coin flip. That is not at all any statement I have made. Yes a condition can exist where two players all in preflop would both have a equal opportunity to be randomly chosen as the winner, but that is independent of their hand holdings.

You are trying to equate that I am contending this is a poker game where the actual poker hands matter. But I have said all along, that poker hand holdings do not matter at all at the point in time where the randomly selected winner is chosen. Once the winner is chosen, then the computer displays the board to reflect the winner. Hand holdings only come in to play in the effort of the computer program to show excitement for the participants.

Many players who may not agree with me, realize there are many more situations where multiple players are hitting the flop. In true poker, it is actually rare that you connect with the flop, much less multiple people connecting with the flop. When those situations do happen, it is just a cooler. At Global Poker, the likelihood of coolers is much higher than what I, and others, have seen at other sites. For this reason alone we need to see the card shuffler certification from iTech.

The game playing as a sweepstakes and using slot machine type tactics to provide excitement to the participants is a very real possibility.

So try and get your facts straight and stop misrepresenting the information I am providing you with.

If both players have an equal chance of being the chosen winner then in your world it is a coin flip, regardless of the hands dealt. All of my tests are based on this silly belief.

How about this - can you think of a scenario (based on your beliefs) where two people at a table go all-in and one of them has a greater chance of being randomly chosen as the winner? If so then how would that work, because otherwise, it is a coin flip in your reality.




Not quite, but I understand your need to believe this, as that is required for you to avoid doing the simple tests.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/25...ebate-1669206/

People can read the thread you are incorrectly summarizing for themselves.



Correct, it would test the actual hands and provide actual data.

Your belief is that any 2 hands all-in pre-flop are 50/50, because the cards themselves are not important when the site determines a winner. That is all that is needed to determine (relatively easily) if that is true, because you and a buddy can go all-in and simply record who had what hand (with "Player A" being the favorite, regardless of who it is.

By the end of the 200 hands you will have a nice little spreadsheet showing the equity percentage of "Player A" for the 200 hands (you guys can even open fold hands that are close in equity and stick with those 60/40 or greater for easier testing).

After that you simply use the binomial calculator, which tests theories exactly like yours.

http://stattrek.com/online-calculator/binomial.aspx



That depends on what you want to test. Take an extreme theory - AA gets dealt every hand. That would need less than a dozen hands to adequately test.

The "good" thing about your theory is that it is very easy to test, and it does not require a massive amount of hands. 5 samples of 200 hands would likely be quite a bit of overkill.

Of course if you were serious about testing this (which you are not) you could ask the stats guys in the stats forum how many hands would be needed based on how many std you want your results to fall within.

Why do you need it to be a full ring table? Does your theory not apply when a table is not full (for instance 2-4 players at a table)? The way I suggested testing it you will see the hole cards of both players at the table.

Just stream the test live, and there will be a video documentation of the output. No saved HHs is meaningless for this test.


Yeah, because you will never test this easy to prove theory.

You will never accept the data. Either the testing company will be in on it, or it will not test something weird/specific you invent, or you will say they turned off the rig switch for the test.

You have the power to test your theory and expose everything, if your LOLdumb beliefs were true. You do not need a massive hand sample. You do not need saved HHs. You do not need the site to do any testing. You can do it. The fact you will not shows your complete lack of faith in your beliefs.

It tests your general theory. Does your theory that a winner is determined at random (regardless of the cards dealt) apply to heads up tables as well? If so then this test will cover it. If not then I would ask why would it only apply to some tables and not others.

Yeah, you can. Easily. Again, you can post your beliefs in the stats forum and ask for a proper test of it. Easy stuff. You will of course never do that, because it is easy stuff.

You do not need it to be the same stats on every hand. You can do the calculations after the 200 hands with an average of the equity for "Player A" or if you like you literally can do it using every individual statistic as well.

That is exactly the kind of test the calculator I linked you does.


Don't get me wrong, it is fun watching people like you cling to your beliefs, regardless of reality, but it is especially amusing when the underlying theory is so bad and easy to prove. Good job on that!



He is like a 9/11 truther - there is 0% chance one will ever convince him of anything. That is why whether the site releases any additional information is meaningless to his needs. If they release something, even if it is everything he asks for, he will simply move the goalposts to suit his beliefs and personal agenda.

The fun is watching them create their own realities, particularly when the underlying belief is the

Dumbest rig ever...


All the best.

How many people do you need to tell you that you are wrong for you to understand you are wrong.

Dumbest person ever!

Great, now you are at the level of out of context quoting. Guess some people of your kind eventually go there when they have nothing else to do.

If you put the rest of his quote you would get to the point where he was talking about avoiding the what if a player was drawing dead scenario, but why worry about such details, when you can do what you did to misrepresent what he was saying, while also avoiding testing your actual theory. The irony is that in your zeal to post a "Gotcha!" you showed what he said about how hard it is to test your LOLbad theory.

so, you know - heh.

Dumbest rig ever...

All the best.