+1

They will just go to the next sites thread and complain there about how it’s rigged since they can’t win.

Fixed my typos above.

It just feels "shady" because if you're good when you're winning it's a combo of horrible play and running around expectation and it feels incredibly simple. You think "how can I ever lose" and you forget that variance is going to exist no matter what. I've played fairly frequently since last July (~3 days a week maybe) and I can't imagine many have had a more "consistent" win rate than mine. I have no huge cashes, you could take away a ton of my biggest scores and I'd still be a winner*...

Yet still, I've had multiple stretches where it feels like I "can't" win and every thought crosses my mind. Is it bc I just withdrew? Is it set up so people don't win too much? Etc etc. And then, eventually, I just start winning again. Is it possible some of the theories itt are true? Of course, anything is possible. Especially in online poker. But Occam's Razor is that it's a normal random site and the people most confident it's rigged are either running bad or aren't nearly as good as they think they are. Or both.

*This sounded pretty douchy on re-read, just thought it was essential to detail my POV that not only have I won but I've won at a very level & consistent rate, and still the losing stretches inspire doubt/frustration.

Any way to prove your comments Mr. Lyons, cause any employee of a company can say things that back their company, but until there is factual proof its just words from a company man.

Oldest question in the book. Two comments:

1. Regression to the mean is a thing
Statistically players who redeem a prize have just had a better-than-average run. Therefore the likelyhood is that players are less lucky after a redemption than before.

Seems odd, but its the same reason that NFL players who appear on the Madden game box art immediately seem to have a bad season. The reason they appeared on the box was because they ran good for a season, so on average a player plays to expectation (i.e. worse) the year after they appear on the Madden box than the year before.

2. It's a terrible strategy for an operator
Why give a player worse luck after they redeem a prize? Bad luck is a huge cause of churn (i.e. leaving the site forever) so a player who redeems is more likely to be a target for retention.

My stats teacher taught me I'm actually more likely to win. It's called a "heater"

There is zero chance Global Poker is legitimate. Zero chance.

Well, then that settles things.

ill bet you $1000 at 100 to 0 its legit

I just want to ***** tbqh. Im so sick of running bad on here. Everyone is absurd bad, Im up overall but I feel like Im being robbed in every big pot for the past 3 months. Anything that means anything a miracle happens. I can always run bad for an extended time but I cant ever run good for more than maybe one cash session or one tourney. Its extremely frustrating losing to less than 16% over and over and over with no break. Its not rigged, sure, i believe it, but Honestly im just over how insane lucky everyone thats a losing player seems to be on this site. I lose too much when im ahead to where im giving up on playing any meaningful volume cause its starting to **** with my head cause i expect to lose its that bad. I just want to ***** cause Im mentally wasted on this at this point everyting is a bad beat and unbelievable run out. Every instance as one instance isnt unbelievable but when you lose about 40 of those instances all in a rwo in every spot that matters thats when yous tart being like what the **** is going on here. For me its just been non stop and felt like bitching in here about it. Again if I can always run bad on the site how come I cant ever find a period of time where I run good? Ability 92 on SS and overall winner in cash and want to light my hair on fire cause im so below EV everywhere here.

i hear ya

cant be there is any factual proof to their rng being legit, since he skipped right over my post and responded to another. Believe what you want suckers.

My bank account believes it’s legit. 🤷*♂️

After reading this thread, and looking at the Zoo thread titled: The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition (from 2008 guys!), I finally came to this realization.

It really doesn't matter. People who think this site and others are rigged will never listen. I think I posted in that massive thread awhile back...or just shook my head in disbelief. Still do, 12 years later.

Anyway, it would be pretty great if more 2+2 players left Global. That will make me very happy.

kbaithx.

Ive cashed out 38k in the past month and I think it definitely favors weak players and keeps them around more than they should be around. What is the stated reason for no HH ive never actually known? I dont think its malicious to **** people but i think the rumors/BS thats going around about rating system or handicapping skilled players is 100% a thing.

Yup.

Nope.

My guess is he knew he would be wasting his time - what kind of proof would ever satisfy you?

both of those things aren't mutually exclusive. it could be insane soft, i love the site, continue play on it and make good money at tourney and cash and also feel like im running way below ev and losing players run well above ev in a lot of sitiuations. but again variance is variance and it can make you think a lot of things like the sky is yellow so wtf do i know i just like to ***** in the bitching thread.

If anyone cares to indulge me, I was taking a shot at reviewing VGW's annual report. Maybe it holds some info to help us understand if overall the numbers are as they "should" be. Disclaimer: I am not a professional financial analyst. Numbers come from the VGA Annual Report website below.

https://vgw.co/wp-content/uploads/20...EPORT-2019.pdf

Simply put, in 2019 global paid out less to players than in 2018. However, the deposits to the casino were higher in 2019 relative to the poker room. It's my assumption the casino makes more money than the poker room, so the past two years appear in-line with expectation, in my novice opinion. The numbers are below if you care to have a look.

In 2018, VGW paid out 238M in sweeps to players, of 379M total deposits across their casino and poker room. This is approximately 62% of total deposits paid to players.

In 2019, VGW paid out 182M in sweeps to players, of 349M total deposits across all their platforms. This is approximately 52% of total deposits to players.

In 2018 204M was deposited to their online casino (Chumba) and 172M to global. Their 2019 casino deposits remained about the same at 207M but their Global poker deposits dropped to 136M.

Proportionally, in 2019 approx. 60% of total deposits went to the casino and 40% to the poker room; versus 2018 approx. 54% went to the casino, and 46% went to the poker room.

Maybe someone smarter than me can confirm or rebut my good feelings, that the numbers are at the very least consistent, perhaps demonstrating consistency on the RNG as well? I could be reaching here, as i have a strong personal bias that we are getting a fair shake on Global (even though I'm getting crushed in PLO, and can't remember the last all-in I've won this month).

I haven't read the recent annual report thoroughly, but looked at the numbers briefly and the change in the Board.

The numbers could easily be due to few players asking for cashouts, aka leaving a higher average balance per account.

The Board changing, Rointin and Nigel leaving was curious.

Why is it impossible to win with the best hand vs the worst players to ever play on the internet?

maybe u should only play bad hands

Pleaseeeee share your screen name.

i understand what hes saying i struggle with this site too, i will get it all in on the turn and they will hit their draw like MOST the time, its ridic, u play well , get it in good, and lose tons of buyins, its maddening