Monteroy; as you are getting your math tutoring, make sure they know not to hold stack size constant

Your flaw in your model is holding this constant and the reason it does not work unless you make a lot of assumptions. This needs a be a model reflecting a real poker game


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Interesting that whether I play there or not has an important impact on your assessment of his action hand theory which goes directly against your own beliefs. I am sure that makes sense to you and your team in some manner.

Hey, at least his action hand thing is from the Riggies for Dummies handbook. In contrast your theory is the...

Dumbest rig ever...


All the best.

Action hand theory does not go against by belief. I have spoke about it. Unfortunately, It is just beyond your comprehension

All the best ignorant dude


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So these 4 hands LITERALLY just happened within 45 minutes of each other




Yeah, I folded 7d5d here. I'm nitty sometimes. Still don't think it was a bad fold, but maybe it is because LOLGlobalPoker....



And my favorite (and last hand of the night because **** this site)....



But I forgot. It's definitely just variance. Nevermind that this happens ALL THE ****ING TIME. Totally just variance.... Monteroy, you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to this site. And anyone else who says they aren't seeing it, you're completely blind.

If it makes you feel better, the operating theory of a couple guys in this thread is that you had a 33.33% chance to win that last hand with the one potential out on the turn, because "Sweepstakes." Even if you were drawing dead you would have had a 33.33% chance to win somehow, though they refuse to explain how.

I realize you want to turn this into your bad beat whining thread, so carry on (even though one of those hands you did win). Also, you said those 4 hands happened within 45 minutes of each other. Assuming you are on a couple tables, that means you got about 60-80 hands dealt in that time, so I guess the rest were not as exciting. I guess "ALL THE ****ING TIME" is a relative concept. Hopefully your cherry picked ones will be more fun next hour!

All the best.

I like how when they canceled a players account the terms they use are not funds or money won. But "sweepstakes"

Now lets stay on subject this is from another post and just used to show what GLOBALPOKER themselves repesent.

10: When an account is suspended or closed by VGW for any reason, we reserve the right to close any future accounts that may be registered by the same person and void/cancel all Sweepstakes entries and transaction with such accounts.

If you didnt all your points and data would be considered invalid. And at this point you would be the troll here, basing statistics off of nothing but pure speculation.

I'm not sure if you're trolling or not, but whatever. I don't need to prove anything to you or any other internet troll hiding behind a computer (and I actually won 2 of the 4 I posted, folded OTT in one, and lost one).... And if I'm seeing ~150 hands/hr (liberal estimate), and I VPIP ~20% of those hands, 4/30 hands with cooler spots is "ALL THE ****ING TIME". And it isn't just happening to me either. If it was, this thread probably wouldn't exist....

Again, I'm winning on this site. This isn't a "woe is me" post. I just want the truth about what's really going on. It's not normal variance....

But I'm pretty sure you're just trolling everyone, so I'm going to stop responding to you. You just seem like a pompous douche bag who has never played a single hand on the site in question, but wants to throw around statistics like you're speaking to a bunch of window lickers who don't understand basic game theory. Anyway.....

All the best bro!!

All he blabs about is how he used to bonus whore online casinos and how many poker players he backs.

At this point he is the troll. He doesn't even play on the site. Had no clue what rewards or rakeback is given to players. Answer: NONE

This site is all action flops. Straights vs pair+flush draw. Trips vs trips on flop. Two pair vs Two pair. ALL THE DAMN TIME!

I've had 17 quads in 28,000 hands on the FLOP. Guess you all think that's just variance and run good. It's standard on this Global SweepsPoker site.

Dumbest person ever

All the best.

LAWL

Hi guys,

Have just read through this entire thread.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion so thank you for sharing them here. There is no doubt that Global Poker is run as a fair poker site and the majority of contributors to this thread have proven that quite clearly.

In saying that, to provide additional comfort, we have requested some additional information about the RNG for those requesting more details and will update you with this information once it comes to hand.

We thank you for your patience and will be back in touch shortly.

In the interim, if any of you are interested in taking part in the 'all in' challenge that has been suggested a few times in this thread and would like to live stream it on twitch. Please let me know and I will see what kind of goodies I can find in the marketing cupboard for you! :-)

Thanks for supporting Global Poker!


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EDIT - Just wanted to post an update to say the name of the thread has been changed to 'RNG Discussion'.

This is quite an active thread and we do not want to shut down debate but as you can hopefully appreciate, the previous title was quite damaging especially considering it was completely unfounded.

Hopefully you will agree that the name change was a fair compromise.

Nice. RNG details/certification would be greatly appreciated.

Please provide downloadable and complete hole card hand histories for all clients

And BTW, the all in to prove a theory has already been proven as NOT a viable way to test the theory so do not look for that to happen. That was just uneducated trolls trying to stir something up

You mentioning that here really has me questioning your education level. Sorry


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This right here is yet another example of their shady crap! Did not answer or clairify anything but instead focused on the RNG and then changed the title of the thread. WTF!!!! Then threaten to shut down the thread.
Why dodge the questions and change the title of the thread if they are running a legit poker site?

Thanks"Everyone is entitled to an opinion so thank you for sharing them here. There is no doubt that Global Poker is run as a fair poker site and the majority of contributors to this thread have proven that quite clearly"

How is this proven? The only thing proven is that you dodge and side step direct questions and changed the title of the thread.

Nobody in the thread questions the RNG it's your fake poker game that is in doubt

I'll leave it to others to decide whether the title change is a big deal, but it shouldn't be a shock that it happened when you use a title like "Global Poker is fake", stating opinion as fact, as you then continue to do with pretty much every second post you make.

And no, they didn't threaten to shut down the thread.

LOL, what????

Everyone, including you, has been questioning the RNG. A normal RNG at a poker site deals cards randomly. You are suggesting that they are choosing winners at random regardless of equity in the hand, which is not what everyone would expect from the RNG.

And then of course there are the people who are claiming an outright rig for "action hands".

So yes, the RNG is being questioned by many people.

Sweepstakes winners are chosen randomly by law. My take is that it is a sweepstakes just like at Chumba Casino but instead of displaying the results in the form of a slot machine they use poker to display like a class 2 slot machine and bingo. It looks like a slot and sounds like a slot but it is just a bingo game.

https://youtu.be/ytFddbQMN0c

Hence fake poker. And again the rep could at anytime explain how their games work or how I am wrong but have not. Most other sites, pokerstars for example has something listed on the website.

https://www.pokerstars.com/help/arti...shuffle-basic/


I don't think it is being a troll to ask for clarification on website showing up with a tremendous claim like legal online poker available in all 50 states.

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They should absolutely do this, though if and when they do that will not change a single riggie opinion at all.

You believe every all-in is 50/50 due to "sweepstakes," but looking at actual all-ins would not prove this? Interesting. I would be curious for you to show where it has been proven that studying all-ins is not a viable way to look at your belief of how all-ins work on the site. Your belief is certainly strong.

Next you will be saying that every hand dealt is AA, but looking at the hands is no way to prove it...

You did participate in the chat about your theory in the stats forum (nice surprise), but as to how hard your theory would be to test, this is what was said


For 50/50 coin flips the chances of 55 or fewer wins in 100 trials is about 87%

All it would take is a few 100 all-in trials (where average equity is about 60-70% for the favorite) and you would see all the proof you need whether your theory is true or not. Do it at a couple heads up table while streaming and it would take maybe an hour or two. Do it at the lowest limit to keep rake cost lower, and you can even do a prop bet whether your theory is valid (as proven by this data) to easily recover any costs.


Dumbest rig ever...


All the best.

Your reading comprehension level is at the opposite end of the spectrum of your inflated ego. The Admin offered an opportunity for people to test out one of the arguments gone over ad nauseum here with some consideration. There was no suggestion as to which side they aligned, just make it a public showing and they would try to arrange some sort of bonus for the players. Somehow, this comically offends your sensibilities. "I am PTS1, Barnum and Bailey and I decree this issue dead..."

You keep blabbering on about wanting others to answer your mighty questions and you do not answer any questions. I have asked you several questions and all ignored. You have randomly taken bits and pieces of verbiage from the prospectus or what others have said and turned them around in an attempt to support your musings, yet there has not been a single show of proof to back up what you say. Instead, you opt for a rodomontade display of arrogance. I was timed out with the best hand and did not get my pot, the software's AI must have know that I would be busy on another table.

This isn't hard actually. Show how software can pre-select a winner when there are a series of an unknown amount of random variables and then you have proven yourself credible, anything else is just digital hot air.

Further touting your 'education', you want them to provide fully downloadable hand histories with all clients hole cards, lol, you are only guaranteed to see your own hole cards. What site does that? How do you claim to have such knowledge, time/effort put in to this great claim, have a 'team' working on this huge conspiracy, and yet lack the common sense to call their US attorney and ask a simple and direct question? Their attorney's name was provided in another thread.

Definitely not trolling to ask for clarification on RNG, sweepstakes, and clarity in the T&C and agree 100% with that.

It is legal in the same way that DraftKings, ClubWPt, and other virtual currency sites function, a mega loophole in US law. If RAWA were to pass, almost all those loopholes would disappear in a flash. While they do not provide copies of legal opinion, and not a chance any company would, I have to side with legal counsel's view. There is a far greater chance of them knowing what they are doing than being wrong.

I understand why they changed the title, but don't agree with it completely, either. Editing someone else's post should be done very very rarely and only under very specific reasons, like threats, blatant slander, etc... They should be able to effectively end the discussion with a detailed explanation of their RNG use and certification. The sooner that happens the better, although there will still be people that claim it is rigged/setup in some way. Just look at the rigged thread, people make the claims about PS, PP, etc... and they have the RNG discussion on their site.

The major difference is those sites have gone out of their way from the very beginning to ensure their customers can have faith in the system. This site, although still relatively new, has not done that at all. That, coupled with the fact that the frequency of coolers and bad beats is astronomically high compared to any other site I've ever played at, has me convinced that the site is absolutely not using a typical RNG. If they are, this is the craziest run of hands I've ever seen. And if I were able to download my hand history, which they don't offer (another reason to doubt their legitimacy) I'd be able to prove it.... Your move Global Poker. Convince me I'm wrong and I'll gladly go away.

Draft kings has to follow laws specific for fantasy sports. ClubWPT doesn't assign a cash value to their there points and don't offer raked ring games. Both sites are completely up front about the game and what is going on. Here at global poker sweeps cash as the same value as us dollars making them casino chips.

+1 Played maybe 100K hands on the site and millions upon millions of online poker hands and have seen nothing abnormal.

I don't agree that the name change is a fair compromise.

You've once again said NOTHING and given NO PROOF that the RNG is random. Saying that it is fair means nothing. Fair does not equal random.

The majority of contributors are NOT on GlobalSweepsPoker's side. There is a lot of fishy stuff going on at this "Poker" site.

Mods should really change the title back. Just because Global pays for this sub-forum does not mean they should be able to make changes to threads as they see fit.