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07-18-2019 , 05:01 PM
OP has yet to learn how to exploit the run up every $20 deposit to $250 rig to make money.
07-18-2019 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by nightmaretilt
The RNG is legit. Does anyone know how an rng works?

As an aside, on global I am actually more concerned about collusion and botting than anything else, although I feel it is actually way safer than other American options. Recently I saw info on a commercial bot which can be set up to play on GP. There is more than one plug and play option on the market for global AFAik
Yeah, online cash anywhere seems super sketchy because of collusion and bots. I only bum hunt when I play cash, which is rare. Tournaments I have much less concern.
07-18-2019 , 05:39 PM
Also, google Pokerstars RNG. They did a video on how the RNG works, albeit different companies might alter their method.
07-18-2019 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by altron
but there has to be a reason global poker's longest thread is about the "RNG" there.
No, there really doesn't need to be a reason that it's the second longest thread, assuming that by "a reason" you actually mean that because this thread is so long, there must be something going on. There are also thousands and thousands of posts, videos, and websites about flat earth, fake moon landings, and 9/11 conspiracies. That doesn't mean they're true. I look for evidence to convince me of things, rather than the number of articles espousing unproven theories.

But if it helps to make you feel better, one reason this thread is so long, just like the RNG thread in the main Internet Poker forum, is because posts like yours, which are nothing but musings and speculations based on anecdotes and no actual evidence, always result in the same discussion, and so we decided long ago to merge these threads, which makes for one huge thread. I assume you weren't aware of this, given that you knew about the existence of the rigged thread, yet decided to start your very own (since merged).

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Originally Posted by altron
Is anyone regularly cashing out of global?
Well, given that "global poker's longest thread" is actually the thread about cashouts & account verification (with over 100 people that have 10+ posts there), it seems that there are quite a number of people cashing out.
07-18-2019 , 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by altron
I know what you are thinking, another newb donk that doesn't understand variance, ROI, etc.

maybe I am all those things but there has to be a reason global poker's longest thread is about the "RNG" there.

My experience is always the same. I can buy in with $20 and run that up to $200-$250 but no higher. It really does feel like you hit a wall.

I'm playing the same game, same stakes.
I suspect that the bolded is probably the case, except for the "maybe" part.
07-18-2019 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by altron

Is anyone regularly cashing out of global?
No.
07-18-2019 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by altron
I know what you are thinking, another newb donk that doesn't understand variance, ROI, etc.

maybe I am all those things, but there has to be a reason global poker's longest thread is about the "RNG" there.

My experience is always the same. I can buy in with $20 and run that up to $200-$250 but no higher. It really does feel like you hit a wall.

I'm playing the same game, same stakes.

Is anyone regularly cashing out of global?
Yeah I have been through this too, and mentioned it on uPLO forum. AFAIK globals software was produced by another company, and other sites use it too. I really doubt there is any problem with it, although it’s is very interesting and entertaining to think about why everyone is so bent out of shape about GP...and everyone seems to describe the same arch: deposit, sun run, oblivion

I’d like to consider myself a rational player, and thankfully I’m long past the point where I will freak out of a string of beats or losing. That said, I can’t help but put my tinfoil hat on about GP and laugh at myself simeltaineously bcz something really does feel whack about that site
07-18-2019 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
OP has yet to learn how to exploit the run up every $20 deposit to $250 rig to make money.
Lol about 10% of the chat box discussions on the site seem to be about this. I’ve seen someone say that min depositing 5$ a day will give you insane run good, this is what he does apparently.

I can’t belive I’m posting in this dreaded forum, the tinfoil hat club is a very dark place...
07-18-2019 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by altron
I know what you are thinking, another newb donk that doesn't understand variance, ROI, etc.



maybe I am all those things, but there has to be a reason global poker's longest thread is about the "RNG" there.



My experience is always the same. I can buy in with $20 and run that up to $200-$250 but no higher. It really does feel like you hit a wall.



I'm playing the same game, same stakes.



Is anyone regularly cashing out of global?
The riggie thread is coming up on its 11th year anniversary and will soon have 100K posts in the coming years. Utilizing the same lack of logic suggesting why this thread is so big, you can take comfort in knowing virtually every site the last 11 years is also rigged, 85K posts after all.

The key to beating the rig on GP is simple. Regularly deposit $20 and withdraw every 3 or 4 days when it hits $250. Lather, rinse, repeat.
07-18-2019 , 07:47 PM
Doing that would violate the riggie code of complaining about a rig that makes the site no money, would be trivially easy to prove if true, and is extremely easy to exploit for a huge amount of money.

Better to stay with the proper riggie narrative of saying there is nothing one can do, in the end one has to lose the money, and it is not their fault due to the rig.
07-19-2019 , 12:35 AM
Coin poker has an open source RNG. No more excuses.
07-19-2019 , 06:41 AM
That will stop riggies from believing it is rigged as much as Real Deal's "watch the shuffler machine" thing did, as well as legislated US rooms solving the problem for all the riggies who said that was needed.

There will not be too many Coinpoker riggies, given their player base of dozens of people at the busy time, but that is pretty much the only thing limiting the concerns for now. If they grow it - riggies will come.

All the best.
07-21-2019 , 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by iburydoscocaroaches
Well it has a lot acr regs on it now that left acr from all the ddos attacks. Now acr is a lot softer. And since global switched from paypal its more off shore players on the site playing. And yes there is russians on global now that have same id name as from acr. I don't know how they get the money off but I guess they have bank accounts in other countries. You guys are better off playing on iggy where its only americans for cash. Btu even mtts its been bad for the high volume regs that used to profit on global before the removal of paypal. Losing players since removal of paypal just to name a few are like Jaredpoker, thats right, cheffcurry. Thats how tough the site has gotten now. So the top players that used to beat it are now losing players on the site. You guys have to understand if it was rigged rng they would of never won to begin with. The player pool is just tougher. Get better or play on another site that has softer player pool (bol, iggy, grandpoker) basically player pools full of sports betting degens.
Thank you for this informative post. The bolded part sounds like networking to me. Makes me curious about the HU sngs.

Already suspicious of MTT bots. Lots of players whose skills dont match their SS. Guessing they are data mining and balancing perception.
07-29-2019 , 06:36 PM
Quads and boats galore on here. Don't trust it and never did. People offline ask me about this site all the time and I always make sure I dissuade them from depositing here. It's the sketchiest "rng" you'll find.
07-29-2019 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by GlobalNoPayout
Quads and boats galore on here. Don't trust it and never did. People offline ask me about this site all the time and I always make sure I dissuade them from depositing here. It's the sketchiest "rng" you'll find.
Congratulations, you're actively making the games worse on one of the world's softest sites because even on global you aren't good enough to win.
07-29-2019 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by GlobalNoPayout
Quads and boats galore on here. Don't trust it and never did. People offline ask me about this site all the time and I always make sure I dissuade them from depositing here. It's the sketchiest "rng" you'll find.
Says the guy that claimed they would never pay out, so much his first account was banned. You got paid, as I said you would, once the correct info was given.

You have to go back to the very beginning of this thread where menses (no typo) members like PT something another provided such deep insight.
08-03-2019 , 09:32 PM
I get so sick of hearing people complain about Global Poker being rigged. Maybe people should stop shoving flops and pre-flops. Not everyone is going to fold a draw. It's your job as a poker player to sniff those people out and avoid shoving on them.

I think 95% of these babies are just mad because they played the hand wrong. I see **** happen all the time where two dudes go all in and one of them draws a magic card on the river. Well if you would of played a flop, homeboy probably would have folded his j-10 or whatever.

Once you go ALL IN and get called, there is no chance to let your opponent fold and it's all blind luck at that point. I think people need to look in the mirror and learn how to actually play the goddamned game. I have played tons and tons and tons of poker over the years. I fold hands all the time that 10 years ago I would have played and got knocked out.

If you want to get better actually critique your own play. Not others. You can't control what your opponent does, get over it. If you dumb enough to shove your whole stack before all the cards come (Barring tourneys and SnG where the blinds are high), then ya, you probably going to get sucked out by drawing hands.

Keep your pots small and play to the river and 9/10 times your opponent will just tell you what he has.
08-03-2019 , 11:12 PM
Another bad player on a heater giving strategy advice...
08-03-2019 , 11:13 PM
I believe it is rigged. Or in other words "juiced" for action. I mainly play PLO (sit n goes) as I enjoy it more. Also I didn't put any of my own money in but won $50 on FB. Here are my thoughts.

1. I had early success. Yes, I got sucked out a lot but the play was so bad that I ran that up to $250. Recently though I can't buy a cash. I'm getting it all in as a 70%+ favorite (which in PLO is hard to do) but have bubbled the last 9 tournaments and sit in gos ($5 or $10 entries). Runner, runner or flopped flush/str8 (after the money is in) seems to be the norm. Down to $180 and have called it quits.

2. Site is way juiced. Flop a set in PLO you will lose to a str8 or flush 80% of the time. Flop a str8 with a flush draw it will almost ALWAYS get there. Flop bottom two pair someone else flopped top two. I'm to the point of folding bottom two EVERY TIME.

3. My biggest issue with the site...Big stack has a HUGE advantage. They can play crap and get there pretty much all the time (8 times out of 10). Heads up I have checked down hundreds of boards and the big stack frequently goes runner runner to win the hand. You see Global doesn't make any money when you are in a tourney or sit in go so it is in their best interest to finish the table/tourney so you enter another one.

4. Checking Sharkscope before/after tables is interesting. It seems no matter how bad the player the losing streak usually stops at 3. Like Global wants to keep the fish playing so they throw them a bone.

In closing I understand bad beats happen in poker. And I understand odds/variance. However when the odds don't match what is going on it's time to take a closer look. In fact at one PLO SNG table the big stack player won a hand quads over quads by hitting a one outer on the river. 3 hands later he made a straight flush to knock me out when I was a 70% favorite.
08-03-2019 , 11:15 PM
they have a riggie thread for this...
08-04-2019 , 03:32 PM
[Edit/MH: To a dewd re deleted post]

Your past posting showed that there was definitely zero intent to offend in that regard, so the riggies reaction I take more as a gotcha style retort when an opportunity presented itself, rather than a definitive belief structure they had that was actually offended. Rare case where the point the riggies were making was correct, regardless of their actual intent, as they also chose to ignore your intent as well to serve their response agenda.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 08-04-2019 at 11:27 PM.
08-04-2019 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Your past posting showed that there was definitely zero intent to offend in that regard, so the riggies reaction I take more as a gotcha style retort when an opportunity presented itself, rather than a definitive belief structure they had that was actually offended. Rare case where the point the riggies were making was correct, regardless of their actual intent, as they also chose to ignore your intent as well to serve their response agenda.
1. I agree the post was offensive.
2. I agree that was not the intent.
3. I disagree with the notion that a poster could not be truly offended just
because he is a riggie.
4. The riggie did not even respond to a dewd's post.
08-04-2019 , 04:44 PM
There were two replies, and you are correct about the first one - it was not from a riggie and that person I suspect was genuinely upset. I fell into the trap of seeing few posts and a riggie style user name to make an assumption there, so my bad on that.

The second reply was from a riggie with 2 prior full blast riggie posts, and I would definitely take the under that he was genuinely offended instead of seeing a gotcha chance to throw a zinger at a "shill." Does not really matter what the riggie's intent was in this case in the end as a dewd's explanation for the post is credible and was an honest mistake (in terms of how it can be taken from those genuinely upset).
08-04-2019 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bornlooser
1. I agree the post was offensive.
2. I agree that was not the intent.
3. I disagree with the notion that a poster could not be truly offended just
because he is a riggie.
4. The riggie did not even respond to a dewd's post.
Glad to see there are some people here with morals.
08-04-2019 , 09:11 PM
It's rigged. The rake is like 5% unlimited or something? I forget. I don't have id to give them. So i don't play. But I lose faster there than I lose on other cites. So do I suck more on GP?

      
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