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03-23-2019 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by GorgeousMale
That really is the bottom line. Variance can be absolutely unbelievable before your very eyes, both good and bad.
yeah and thats the sad truth..i lost turned quads on GP to rivered Royal..i legit stared at my screen for at least a good 5 minutes and didnt play for another few months..

but the past three days on Party poker, ive lost AAs to KKs, AQ to JT/KQ 2 different times, 77s to 33s, turned flush to rivered boat, and at least 5 flopped trips to runners or whatever.

and thats literally been the last 3 days..but the funny thing is, now that im thinking about it, thats only 11 hands out of the maybe ~3k hands ive played...but they were pivotal spots in tourneys..

so i guess its not that bad?..just a shame

but i like what A dewd said, the bad/super wide players are what create the variance in the game...pretty interesting/sad

....i also won ~100 back on 888 today, so complaining helps your run good apparently.
03-23-2019 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimbojambo91
yeah and thats the sad truth..i lost turned quads on GP to rivered Royal..i legit stared at my screen for at least a good 5 minutes and didnt play for another few months..



but the past three days on Party poker, ive lost AAs to KKs, AQ to JT/KQ 2 different times, 77s to 33s, turned flush to rivered boat, and at least 5 flopped trips to runners or whatever.



and thats literally been the last 3 days..but the funny thing is, now that im thinking about it, thats only 11 hands out of the maybe ~3k hands ive played...but they were pivotal spots in tourneys..



so i guess its not that bad?..just a shame



but i like what A dewd said, the bad/super wide players are what create the variance in the game...pretty interesting/sad



....i also won ~100 back on 888 today, so complaining helps your run good apparently.
Yo, Mambo....come back to the discord! Peeps were looking for you
03-23-2019 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimbojambo91
yeah and thats the sad truth..i lost turned quads on GP to rivered Royal..i legit stared at my screen for at least a good 5 minutes and didnt play for another few months..

but the past three days on Party poker, ive lost AAs to KKs, AQ to JT/KQ 2 different times, 77s to 33s, turned flush to rivered boat, and at least 5 flopped trips to runners or whatever.

and thats literally been the last 3 days..but the funny thing is, now that im thinking about it, thats only 11 hands out of the maybe ~3k hands ive played...but they were pivotal spots in tourneys..

so i guess its not that bad?..just a shame

but i like what A dewd said, the bad/super wide players are what create the variance in the game...pretty interesting/sad

....i also won ~100 back on 888 today, so complaining helps your run good apparently.
Quads vs Royal Flush. lolololololol

What stakes are you playing?
03-24-2019 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Lozgod
Quads vs Royal Flush. lolololololol

What stakes are you playing?
Lol, yeah that one hurt..but that one was a low stakes cash game on GP..think .02/.05 ?..

It's even funnier cause he just called my like %70 pot river bet..goes to show you that there are lots of recs that dont even know their hands or how to bet/raise properly

But I'll probably come back a dewd..just a lot going on over here the past few weeks
03-24-2019 , 07:28 PM
There is a better way to look at hands like that. Effectively, you won it, given it seems that you did not lose anywhere close to the amount you should have with your hand strengths (regardless of what the buy in level was for the game).

A player I back recently lost about 2/3 of his stack semi-deep in the money in a Pokerstars MTT when his KK ran into AA, however he should have lost his whole stack (22ish BBs) except the opponent did the super slow play (in the BB) of calling the raise, check calling the pot bet, check calling the turn bet then on the river ace checking and my guy checked as well.

Instead of moaning his cooler luck he correctly recognized that he still had about 8-10 BBs instead of what he should have had (ie:0), and while he did not win the MTT, he laddered up several more payouts and won a couple hundred more when he should have been out of the tournament on that KK / AA hand. Essentially, it was a freeroll from that point on.

Seems strange that your reaction was to not play there again for months when basically your opponent found a way for you not to lose your stack on a hand you should have lost your stack, as one would think that would get you more motivated to play against those players whenever possible .
03-25-2019 , 12:53 AM
all the people ive encountered in game table chat that complain of rigged happen to be some of the worst players ive seen. deploying a terrible strategy from the moment they buy in for 25bb.

imagine the worst player youve ever played against that same guy probably has multiple accounts on poker forums and complains of the game being rigged.
03-25-2019 , 09:45 PM
My only question is if the cards run out random on this site. The run out seems predetermined in my opinion. Not saying its rigged I am up on site but I dont play often just because it does not seem on the up and up.
03-27-2019 , 09:18 AM
dont all sites rngs have to be predetermined? i read about it all years ago, ive just learned to let my bad beats go now..but i always thought that each hand on each site is already set up to shuffle each hand then deal the random numbers that popped up to the system in order..each random card is set in a line and when its time for it to be pulled up on screen it comes

you know, like live play...a dealer shuffles his deck, sets it down and shows the cameras its set..isnt that predetermined? the only "entity" who should know what cards are coming online is the software..so because of all that reading ive done the whole rigged thing just doesnt make sense..also, i could have swore i read that global uses a third party as well to confirm their rng is legit (i believe i read that in a thread here by the repat the time)

i tend to not say sites are rigged..just my luck lol..i get very lucky in important situations in life then i do unlucky..pokers the same way really..even though it happens more often than we'd like, especially small timers

i mean look at the pros..Allinpav has had consecutive days of 3k-8k downswings with no binks, and now hes binked like 4+ mtts profiting like 30k+..

i really do commend and appreciate the pros that show their downswing graphs...bhulero and this other dude showed a -17k i think and a like -20k+ or something downswing

makes me feel great about losing ~400 bucks over 3 months lol...well, maybe not great, but just shows us little guys that it happens to everyone especially ones with substantial means
03-27-2019 , 06:41 PM
on a side note...what i think is really funny is that the first page had a lot of regs here criticizing the OPs first post saying how this sites rng is rigged...and now its got 154 pages of back and forth on the topic..coincidence?

lols for days

but seriously, i dont care about rigged discussions..poker in general is rigged..certain hands are rigged to beat other hands and the better hand wins, its that simple..get over it or stop playing
03-27-2019 , 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimbojambo91
dont all sites rngs have to be predetermined? i read about it all years ago, ive just learned to let my bad beats go now..but i always thought that each hand on each site is already set up to shuffle each hand then deal the random numbers that popped up to the system in order..each random card is set in a line and when its time for it to be pulled up on screen it comes
I believe you're using "predetermined" in a different way than the poster before you. It sounds like you're talking about whether a site randomizes the deck once at the start of the hand and then deals the cards in order, or they produce each card randomly from the remaining cards (like shuffling the remaining deck before dealing each card) - there have been sites that have done it each way. But neither method is related to rigging, and I don't think that's what the previous posters was talking about.

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Originally Posted by Jimbojambo91
on a side note...what i think is really funny is that the first page had a lot of regs here criticizing the OPs first post saying how this sites rng is rigged...and now its got 154 pages of back and forth on the topic..coincidence?

lols for days
I'm genuinely puzzled by this. What's really funny? What's a coincidence? Is there significance to the number 154, or is there some other funny coincidence I'm missing?
03-27-2019 , 11:01 PM
i guess not..im truly sorry. i must be ignorant in all my previous post.

sorry for replying at all
04-06-2019 , 11:04 PM
Global Poker site= I run into Quads on back to back hands.
First hand 3 3's after the river and I have AAXX. Villian has a 3 in a 3 bet pot.

Next hand I have AAXX and flop comes KAK and the money goes in on the turn and Villian shows KKXX.
Quit for the day.
PLO.10/.20
04-07-2019 , 06:34 AM
Bad luck running into trips or a weaker full house (first hand) then quads. Not sure what hand you had on the 333xx boards that you thought could beat trips or an underfill, but whatever. I agree that a player should quit playing for the day if a he cannot mentally handle those situations.

All the best.
04-07-2019 , 07:12 AM
Oops, thought you said the opponent had 333x (lost track of how many times I saw players that had that in hand complain when their hand of "quads" did not win.)

Still, in hand one if there was no ace on the board I guess I would wonder why you think it was such a horrific beat when even on the 33xx board (assuming the last 3 was on the river) you lose to any hand with a 3 or any hand that has a pair matching one of the x cards. You have a bad 2 pair hand which does not improve really when the last 3 hits as your 333AA hand again loses to the same stuff it was behind when the board was 33xx, unless opponent had 22xx or something on the 3332x board (which I doubt).

The other hand with AKK running into KKxx - welcome to Omaha, Next time your opponent will hopefully have AKxx and you will not quit for the day, unless in that case the 3rd K shows which would be a genuine bad beat, unlike your first hand where the third 3 meant nothing other than your ability to whine about unverified quads, because quad rigs are by far a big moneymaker for sites.
04-07-2019 , 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Oops, thought you said the opponent had 333x (lost track of how many times I saw players that had that in hand complain when their hand of "quads" did not win.)

Still, in hand one if there was no ace on the board I guess I would wonder why you think it was such a horrific beat when even on the 33xx board (assuming the last 3 was on the river) you lose to any hand with a 3 or any hand that has a pair matching one of the x cards. You have a bad 2 pair hand which does not improve really when the last 3 hits as your 333AA hand again loses to the same stuff it was behind when the board was 33xx, unless opponent had 22xx or something on the 3332x board (which I doubt).

The other hand with AKK running into KKxx - welcome to Omaha, Next time your opponent will hopefully have AKxx and you will not quit for the day, unless in that case the 3rd K shows which would be a genuine bad beat, unlike your first hand where the third 3 meant nothing other than your ability to whine about unverified quads, because quad rigs are by far a big moneymaker for sites.

In the first hand the betting action (3 bet pot) made me believe it highly unlikely that my opponent had a 3. One on the flop, another on the turn and another on the river will sometimes have that effect on one. Never said hand one was a horrible bad beat, just unusual to run into quads in back to back hands vs same villian.
No whining here bud.Troll on.
04-07-2019 , 08:24 AM
Well, you did not say what the betting was in this unverified hand you are talking about from memory, but I guess I would still wonder why you think AAxx on a 33xx board is that great if a lot of betting took place from the turn on. River changed literally nothing other than allowing you to do a quadwhine, so what is the point of a site having a rig like that that only makes the hand stand out more (without changing who would win it on the river).

In the end you complained about running into quads twice and then had to quit for the day because of the emotional trauma that inflicted in the .1/.2 game you were playing- but hey, at least you were not whining about it in your mind.

You have been on the forums for a while. Consider starting a thread in the appropriate forum for these life altering hands. Here is a link if that helps:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...rags-variance/

They will give you the emotional support you deserve if you post there.

All the best.
04-24-2019 , 12:32 PM
Tons of preflop all in split pots. Tons. KK vs KK, AA vs AA, QQ vs QQ ...

Last edited by Stonephace; 04-24-2019 at 12:38 PM.
04-24-2019 , 02:17 PM
more than 3000 pounds?
05-04-2019 , 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Well, you did not say what the betting was in this unverified hand you are talking about from memory, but I guess I would still wonder why you think AAxx on a 33xx board is that great if a lot of betting took place from the turn on. River changed literally nothing other than allowing you to do a quadwhine, so what is the point of a site having a rig like that that only makes the hand stand out more (without changing who would win it on the river).

In the end you complained about running into quads twice and then had to quit for the day because of the emotional trauma that inflicted in the .1/.2 game you were playing- but hey, at least you were not whining about it in your mind.

You have been on the forums for a while. Consider starting a thread in the appropriate forum for these life altering hands. Here is a link if that helps:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...rags-variance/

They will give you the emotional support you deserve if you post there.

All the best.

Well gee buddy, I hope you go all through this thread and chastise the other people who’ve posted dozens of hands about quads on Global in the GLOBAL RNG DISCUSSION thread and maybe Haven will promote you to JuniorModerator or something equally glorious to celebrate your mad skills.
05-06-2019 , 01:04 AM
Ironically, I generally think people who talk about online poker being rigged are fish, but I must say, something about global does not feel right. I've played 10m+ hands lifetime and I can't explain it, but something feels wrong.
05-07-2019 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by CRUDEFINDER
Well gee buddy, I hope you go all through this thread and chastise the other people who’ve posted dozens of hands about quads on Global in the GLOBAL RNG DISCUSSION thread and maybe Haven will promote you to JuniorModerator or something equally glorious to celebrate your mad skills.


Seeing quads daily for weeks straight twice an hour sometimes, even if you only log on and play a couple of hours a day is completely normal and people that claim it are liars and nutty conspiracy theorists that no one should believe and should be discredited as “riggies”.

I don’t see it that often on WSOP, Ignition, ACR, or any other site I’ve ever played on ever but that doesn’t mean it’s a problem with the RNG. It’s just means that um.....yeah........nothing to see here.
05-07-2019 , 04:40 PM
I saw flop come 999 3 times in a 2 hour session in SNG's...
05-07-2019 , 07:27 PM
Shout out to the three tinfoil hat wearing fish above me, yall keep the game alive.
05-07-2019 , 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ThiagoSantos
Shout out to the three tinfoil hat wearing fish above me, yall keep the game alive.
Do you play there? What’s your SN and we’ll see who the fish is....
05-07-2019 , 10:49 PM
I prefer playing live so much more now. Playing on GP depresses me so much.

      
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